MichaelWeston Posted June 8, 2015 Report Share Posted June 8, 2015 What was the purpose of telling kids in bathing suits to get to the ground? Until he ran up on them in that manner did they pose any threat? Was it necessary for him to draw his gun?I have no idea. But I am not assuming that he didn't. Apparently someone attacked a security guard and he was trying to sort it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted June 8, 2015 Report Share Posted June 8, 2015 I've not seen anything about the security officer getting attacked I have see this however (note the video in the twittter account) http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/08/texas-pool-party-mom_n_7536218.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|kennethmw| Posted June 8, 2015 Report Share Posted June 8, 2015 Here's the whole video, Explain to me why this fool should ever be allowed to wear a badge again. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R46-XTqXkzE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|kennethmw| Posted June 8, 2015 Report Share Posted June 8, 2015 What did he do wrong there specifically? Was he not allowed to tell the people to get on the ground. Was he not allowed to draw his gun and then put it back after a guy was aggressively coming up behind him that he couldn't see? What did the girl do to get wrestled to the ground? We know nothing. It's just a video with no context and you have already written the narrative. Same with the one above it. The guy turned around and looked like he was going for something in his belt. It's a terrible thing. What did he do wrong? Look at the beginning of the video. One officer seems to have it under control, calmly taking to the kids, when MORON BOY comes up pushing people to the ground and yelling like he's some fucking fool. He escalated the situation, and then continued to act a complete ass to everyone of color. Not one word was said to a single white kid, but every black kid was a felon in training. I sometimes wonder what the fuck you are thinking, if you are thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 Here's the whole video, Explain to me why this fool should ever be allowed to wear a badge again. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R46-XTqXkzE Holy shit, I didn't see the whole video. The other cop had things under control and this guy.... wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Numbers| Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 There's a couple more videos of the incident on the Washington Post. The department put him on Administrative leave which means he still collects a paycheck. Officer needs to be fired. Responding to a scene with multiple juveniles in a disturbance should have had more officer's responding than what happened. IMHO. It's obvious the juveniles were also hurling insults at the police which no doubt exasperated the already stressed out situation. Public gathering trespassing on private property and resulted in a security guard being accosted, will get a heightened response from the police. However, the one officer going cookoo did not appear to have a partner with him. Flying solo in a mass disturbance is stupid and should result in his firing and possibly his castration to prevent potential breeding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 Holy shit, I didn't see the whole video. The other cop had things under control and this guy.... wow Definitely adds context. Not sure he should lose his job but he's definitely got to work on handling his anger and how to work a crowd. He was within his rights to do everything he did though. It's the lack of control he had when doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 Some see a defenseless black teen being manhandled by an out-of-control white cop; others see a lone, scared officer in the crowded, chaotic aftermath of a fight he doesnt yet understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalBacker Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 That's the kind of thing that can happen in the confusion of events as they unfold. This is a calculated decision. Outrageous. http://denver.cbslocal.com/2015/06/05/greenwood-village-homeowner-to-police-youve-destroyed-a-familys-life/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 Can happen? Backer the other cops were calm till this guy went solo. He exasperated the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 What do you think would have happened if the kids just sat down and complied. What if that girl had just walked away and stopped running her mouth? The guy was out of line but I hope they charge those kids too. There are clearly a ton of kids acting right. The guy with the camera never gets touched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 The kids were fine before he ran up, loud but i mean is that a crime? But they were fine. The other officer was handling it professionally and descalating it and this guy came running in and made the whole thing worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 Actually to me this illustrates the perfect example between a good cop who is acting professionally and one that isnt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dub Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 Hey look, here comes MW to defend yet another cop's out of control racist power trip. Nothing if not consistent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 Interview with the kid that video taped the whole thing http://cw33.com/2015/06/08/15-year-old-who-shot-mckinney-pool-party-video-speaks-out/ I'm sure he'll be facing charges any time now for recording it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 The kids were fine before he ran up, loud but i mean is that a crime? But they were fine. The other officer was handling it professionally and descalating it and this guy came running in and made the whole thing worse.Wasnt there a fight?I mean I agree he did a terrible job de-escalating but the girl he put to the ground should have just walked away. He pulled a gun because someone snuck up behind him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 Between a adult and a child yes, so question is why isn't the adult being told to get on the ground? Why were they dealing with just the kids and not the adult that got in a fight with the one kid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 Between a adult and a child yes, so question is why isn't the adult being told to get on the ground? Why were they dealing with just the kids and not the adult that got in a fight with the one kid?I believe he was telling them to get on the ground so he could figure out what was going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 I believe he was telling them to get on the ground so he could figure out what was going on. Sure, but again why just the kids? I mean an adult woman apparently got in a fight with a kid, was that not reported? And why just the black kids? I mean he stood there looking at the kid that was video taping him. I'm not necessarily jumping on this was racist train here, but it is a bit odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 In fact, and maybe its just me, but the other officers seemed to give him a "wtf is this guy doing" look before they were forced to join him after he escalated the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalBacker Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 Can happen? Backer the other cops were calm till this guy went solo. He exasperated the situation. I don't disagree, just saying when multiple people are involved and you're trying to assess and control a situation, mistakes can be made, but I don't blame him for pulling his weapon when the two guys came toward him. The link I posted was the main reason I joined the conversation. Guy shoplifts from Walmart, runs into random house, cops destroy the house during the standoff for no good reason. That was a calculated decision from higher ups who had plenty of time to think about what they were doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Numbers| Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 I don't disagree, just saying when multiple people are involved and you're trying to assess and control a situation, mistakes can be made, but I don't blame him for pulling his weapon when the two guys came toward him. Number 1: Officer never went to a different escalator. He went straight to his gun. Number 2: Officer never should have gone solo. In Louisville a unarmed man was drawn down on by an officer that was flying solo. No taser, no baton, etc... Straight to the gun. Officer missed shooting him, guy got pissed and charged the officer while he was buck naked. Officer shot again and missed again. Officer was disarmed by a naked man and the gun was used to shoot the officer and also at neighbors. In short this officer in Texas made the same mistakes. Fortunately for him, he survived. Fortunately for others around the officer they didn't get shot either. This whole incident could have ended alot worse than it did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 http://www.democracynow.org/2015/6/9/pulling_a_gun_on_a_pool Sergeant Cheryl Dorsey's thoughts here are interesting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalBacker Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 Number 1: Officer never went to a different escalator. He went straight to his gun. Number 2: Officer never should have gone solo. In Louisville a unarmed man was drawn down on by an officer that was flying solo. No taser, no baton, etc... Straight to the gun. Officer missed shooting him, guy got pissed and charged the officer while he was buck naked. Officer shot again and missed again. Officer was disarmed by a naked man and the gun was used to shoot the officer and also at neighbors. In short this officer in Texas made the same mistakes. Fortunately for him, he survived. Fortunately for others around the officer they didn't get shot either. This whole incident could have ended alot worse than it did. Officer needed more range time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Numbers| Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 Officer needed more range time. ...and more training. Never respond solo for domestic disturbance. Still no reason this situation couldn't have been avoided from the beginning. Nobody, cop or suspects, should be the judge, jury, and executioner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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