ColdWarrior Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Did Obama intentionally give the U.S. military the finger by releasing key prisoners and taking a deserter in exchange? It is my opinion that Obama is far more calculating than many give him credit for. Those who accuse him of simple incompetence greatly underestimate him. Exchanges of prisoners generally are rank-for-rank. Was Obama attempting to convey a message that a soldier who basically protested the war by walking off was as valuable as five opposition commanders? I suspect so. I don't believe for a minute that the administration was simply ignorant of Bergahl's status. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Disagree. It's the same as Benghazi, I don't think all the info always is present at the time they make decisions on it or present on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColdWarrior Posted May 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Funny that you should mention Benghazi because I was initiallly irate that Mitt let him slide on that topic when it was apparent that the administration was pushing a ridiculous story about what was rather obviously a planned assault. (I say "initially" because I decided that Mitt and his team decided that the topic was too confrontational and would alienate women voters.) Everybody dogs Fox for being a tool of the right, but they were so far in front of the other networks on the true Benghazi story that it's not funny. It is literally not funny to me that supposed journalists accepted that crock of a story for weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 If you've read any of the reports it is apparent the Administration ran with what is called "Raw Intelligence" and not the stuff that was ran through the analysts. When keeping in mind that they were trying to get answers out to the media asap that is understandable how that might happen. Now we can discuss if they should be pushing something out to the media asap vs waiting on the analysts. Fox being "right" about the so called video, is like saying Sarah Palin was right about Russia invading Crimea. Technically maybe, but it's not like they knew that for sure, it was more they thew shit against the wall and this shit just happened to stick. That's why I mentioned the fake scandal, simply because it imo is more about when people knew what they knew and who knew it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Also how would Benghazi alienate woman voters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Which (re: the video) by the way.... http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/khattala-benghazi-video-new-york-times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColdWarrior Posted May 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 Also how would Benghazi alienate woman voters? Mitt was all Mr. Nice guy in the debate rather than going pit bull on the lack of security at our embassy. That was probably not by accident. Our election campaigns are essentially the mass marketing of candidates and image is everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted May 29, 2015 Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 Maybe. But then he probably didnt want Obama coming back with budget cuts.Btw Joe Biden was a pittbull in the VP debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalBacker Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/22/us/politics/a-closer-look-at-hillary-clintons-emails-on-benghazi.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 Nothing of note in that other than Stevens considered leaving due to deterating security a year ealier. Got to have money for security. But nothing damming about any wrong doing on her or the administrations part. Pretty boring actually Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dub Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 I can't take Benghazi seriously. Libya was, still is, messy but a tea party compared to Iraq. We got off easy there. 100% against negotiating for her release, though. Prefer the Russian or Israeli method of "negotiating". They have families, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalBacker Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 Nothing of note in that other than Stevens considered leaving due to deterating security a year ealier. Got to have money for security. But nothing damming about any wrong doing on her or the administrations part. Pretty boring actually Within 2 days after it happened at minimum, they were aware that it was a planned attack, not a video, yet they continued to blame it on the video. With the upcoming election they didn't want it to look like a terrorist attack because they feared a backlash against Obama and that it could damage his re-election chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 Yet here we are the guy they caught that was responsible...Ahmed Abu Khattala...telling you it was then a few days later not being committing or backing away from that http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/18/world/middleeast/apprehension-of-ahmed-abu-khattala-may-begin-to-answer-questions-on-assault.html?hp&_r=3 As the attack in Benghazi was unfolding a few hours later, Mr. Abu Khattala told fellow Islamist fighters and others that the assault was retaliation for the same insulting video, according to people who heard him. In an interview a few days later, he pointedly declined to say whether an offensive online video might indeed warrant the destruction of the diplomatic mission or the killing of the ambassador. “From a religious point of view, it is hard to say whether it is good or bad,” he said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 I can't take Benghazi seriously. Libya was, still is, messy but a tea party compared to Iraq. We got off easy there. 100% against negotiating for her release, though. Prefer the Russian or Israeli method of "negotiating". They have families, too. I dont take it seriously because 1. It's an obvious campaign issue they want to use against Hillary (they dont actually care about this) because 2. If they did they wouldnt be continuing to make cuts to embassy security and 3. put embassies in places we are not wanted. None of these people truly want to address #3 its all nonsense to play political games over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jamie_B Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 Must be tough to have nothing worthwhile to add Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jamie_B Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 Point proven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|kennethmw| Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 Point proven That point was proven in his first five or six posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jamie_B Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 That point was proven in his first five or six posts. True. Must be tough having the intellectual capacity of a garden knome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Numbers| Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalBacker Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 True. Must be tough having the intellectual capacity of a garden knome. It's spelled gnome. ^_^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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