T-Dub Posted December 12, 2015 Report Share Posted December 12, 2015 It wasn't you Jamie, it was TDub, he acts like I care about where Trump clothing was made.Confused here. Are you saying I shouldn't care that the same guy who blames China for climate change (LOLWTF) has all his products manufactured in China? Or that you don't care?I mean, I have plenty of more immediate reasons to think he's a shitbag. And elections are generally about choosing the lesser evil, so I'm with you there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steggyD Posted December 12, 2015 Report Share Posted December 12, 2015 No, I was just confused why you brought him up when talking to me. I thought you were highlighting his failures, as if I'm a Trump fan. I apologize if I misunderstood.But China is one of the biggest polluters in this world, so there's that.In the end, it doesn't matter who I vote for President. I live in New York, break out the blue marker already. My vote doesn't count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dub Posted December 12, 2015 Report Share Posted December 12, 2015 No, I was just confused why you brought him up when talking to me. I thought you were highlighting his failures, as if I'm a Trump fan. I apologize if I misunderstood.But China is one of the biggest polluters in this world, so there's that.In the end, it doesn't matter who I vote for President. I live in New York, break out the blue marker already. My vote doesn't count.I felt the same way about voting against Boehner, but there's always other shit on the ballot so... & it does count for other things, like the opposition party deciding whether to bother running a candidate next time, for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted December 12, 2015 Report Share Posted December 12, 2015 You dont just raise the minimum wage to 15 and not index it to something. I have a friend who is an Economist who got his degree from Harvard, he works in the energy industry. He thinks we should index it to productivity so as productivity goes up so do wages. I could see that, and I know he knows better than me as he has a masters from a top school in this stuff, I would like to see it indexed to the CPI myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted December 15, 2015 Report Share Posted December 15, 2015 Really good interview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArizonaRising Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 You boys need to listen to Ron and Rand Paul a little more if ya'll are considering Bernie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 You boys need to listen to Ron and Rand Paul a little more if ya'll are considering Bernie.I dont support Libertarian economics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArizonaRising Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 I dont support Libertarian economicsRand Paul is not really full-blown libertarian. What he is supports some common sense items like Auditing the Federal Reserve (Bernie actually voted fot it) and letting the free market succeed in the areas where it has historically and not letting government try to have more control in areas it has failed (healthcare, education and war). Rand is also for fixing the criminal justice system (and has been for YEARS before anyone else jumped on the bandwagon)(such as ending minimum sentencing for non-violent offenders and ending the war on drugs that ends up putting more people of color in prison im greater percentages than whites) And Rand has the best foreign policy stance of any politician in this race as well. Just watch this video. http://youtu.be/9ZC9wZFPNvs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 Less government control of education? War? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArizonaRising Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 Less government control of education? War?War is paid for by either extra taxation of the American people or borrowing money. Any declaration of war has to be voted on and passed in both the House of Representatives and Congress. When we have an Executive branch that is far more reluctant to immediately declare war, then we might begin to not get involved in such counterproductive wars or engagements like the 2nd Gulf War or Libya. Congress enacted the War Powers Act in 1973 to rein in the overreach of Lyndon B Johnson and Nixon in the Vietnam War. The branchs of government are supposed to be checks and balances for eachother but then there's the federal reserve...it's absurd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyInDC Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 Because I like your pro-Bengals posts (ArizonaRising), I'll mention this: We have been through this over and over in this subforum. Rarely in J&D is anyone going to change anyone's mind. Most of us post here to vent, cheer each other on, or to boo the opposition. Opinions are already formed. Chew on this: My girlfriend, who grew up under actual bona fide communism, thinks Atlas Shrugged is a diatribe against cronyism, not socialism.Put that in yer pipe and smoke it. Oh, and Rand Paul is my senator. He does not represent my interests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 Ayn Rand is a social security taking hypocrite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArizonaRising Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 Rand Paul, not Ayn Rand, Jamie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 Rand Paul, not Ayn Rand, Jamie. I'm aware, DC brought up Atlas Shrugged and so I had to comment on that cunt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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sois Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 Dwayne Elizondo Herbert Mountain Dew Camacho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArizonaRising Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 I'm aware, DC brought up Atlas Shrugged and so I had to comment on that cunt.Haven't read it. Have you read any of Orwell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-GoBengals- Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 What about this article elicits this reaction? I like that he is calling for an end to the federal ban on Marijuana.the fact that bunghole is an indiana republican... and thats all..logic need not be involved what so ever.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 Haven't read it. Have you read any of Orwell?Familiar with. 1984. Big Brother? I believe we just repealed some of the things the Patriot Act did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArizonaRising Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 Familiar with. 1984. Big Brother? I believe we just repealed some of the things the Patriot Act did.Orwell was a British man. A believer in Democratic socialism but vehemently against Totalitarianism. His books Animal Farm and 1984 are political satire and scathing criticism of Communism and eerily prophetic. 1984 is the better book as it is a full nobel length and pioneers the idea of a dystopian totalitarian technocratic society. Definitely influenced by the writings of Huxley in A Brave New World.I think l, although Orwell believed in socialism, his books actually are a stark warning of the true ends of socialism in the context of time we associate ourselves with now. Bernie Sanders is not a socialist because he doesn't believe in "government ownership of means of production" because he has to say that because that is a position uniquely associated with Communism. He rails against income inequality and praises Norway, Finland and Denmark yet those countries have worse income inequality than the US! But don't trust me, read this very insightful Phd. Swede's book on Sweden's economy. http://www.iea.org.uk/sites/default/files/publications/files/Sanandajinima-interactive.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 I'm not voting for Sanders based on his like for the Scandinavian countries. Im voting for him based on his desire to reinstate Glass Stegal and break up the big banks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArizonaRising Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 Breaking up big banks by repealing Glass Stegall is a positive but institutionalizing government redistribution of wealth and market intervention with expansion of mandatory healthcare is a heavy price to pay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 Ever read Thomas Pickety? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArizonaRising Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 Nope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dub Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 Ever been in a Turkish prison? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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