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Jamie_B

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Like Ive said repeadly, I dont know wether the War is going to produce good or bad results, its very premature to say either way (btw, for those who keep missing this point, I was against going in, but am for staying and making sure things get done to not screw it up even more)

Here is a blog by an Actual Iraqi citizen (I provided one by an American traveling with a Marine Unit earlier, [url="http://michaelyon.blogspot.com/"]http://michaelyon.blogspot.com/[/url] )

I think its important to get information from scourses that are actually there as a addendum to what the media show us. Figure out for yourselves what you believe.

[url="http://democracyiniraq.blogspot.com/"]http://democracyiniraq.blogspot.com/[/url]
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[i]You have to love these Pamplets that we dropped on Iraq before the War <_< [/i]


[img]http://www.metacannibal.net/brave_new_world/uruk/iraq-lflt_izd-072eng.jpg[/img]


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[img]http://www.metacannibal.net/brave_new_world/uruk/iraq-lflt_izd-070eng.jpg[/img]

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[i]I have seen a couple of these (with different #'s) in yards down in here S Florida :lol: must be a growing joke[/i]

[img]http://www.nationalview.org/fix_Iraq.jpg[/img]

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[quote]thanks for adding that to the thread bj... it goes right along w/ the point[/quote]

[i][b]well rather than starting a whole new thread to show the pamphlets... I figured I would throw them on to the first Iraq thread[/b][/i]
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i guess that the oil isn't their livelihood and best chance to succeed economically, and i guess that if the terrorists attacked the oil fields, oil wouldn't have risen much, much higher than what is now...

sorry jaime for changing the subject... not sure how that happened [img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/39.gif[/img]

i already have your first blog posted bookmarked... now i have two.. thanks man!!
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[quote name='bengalrick' date='Aug 10 2005, 04:41 PM']i guess that the oil isn't their livelihood and best chance to succeed economically, and i guess that if the terrorists attacked the oil fields, oil wouldn't have risen much, much higher than what is now...

sorry jaime for changing the subject... not sure how that happened [img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/39.gif[/img]

i already have your first blog posted bookmarked... now i have two.. thanks man!!
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n/p

Also if you notice on the Iraqi blog there are a bunch of links to other blogs and news scources.
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[quote name='BlackJesus' date='Aug 10 2005, 03:09 PM'][img]http://www.infoshop.org/graphics/latuff/RatTrap.gif[/img]
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You`re a dickhead for posting that shit.



I still love ya though. :wub:

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[quote]You`re a dickhead for posting that shit.



I still love ya though.[/quote]


[i][b]so being the messanger makes a dickhead.... but lying and sending the poor boy over there to be trapped doesn't make Bush one ???[/b][/i]

[i][b]I like everyone on here..... I don't throw around the L word loosely though... only for Marvin [/b][/i] B)

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[quote name='BlackJesus' date='Aug 10 2005, 03:15 PM'][i][b]so being the messanger makes a dickhead.... but lying and sending the poor boy over there to be trapped doesn't make Bush one ???[/b][/i]

[i][b]I like everyone on here..... I don't throw around the L word loosely though... only for Marvin [/b][/i] B)
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77% of the Congress "lied" just as much as Bush did.
I`m tired of "some people" acting like Saddam was an
"innocent victim" of America...

And posting a cartoon of an American soldier that is dead
in a post that it isn`t relevant makes you a dickhead.




Save that stupid shit for your Anti America ...errrr I mean
the Anything thread...

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[quote]And posting a cartoon of an American soldier that is dead
in a post that it isn`t relevant makes you a dickhead.[/quote]

[i]how is cartoons of Iraq not relevant to a thread about someone in Iraqs opinion.... the cartoons I am posting are from Iraqi Papers... this is what some of them think [/i]
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[quote name='BlackJesus' date='Aug 10 2005, 03:22 PM'][i]how is cartoons of Iraq not relevant to a thread about someone in Iraqs opinion.... the cartoons I am posting are from Iraqi Papers... this is what some of them think [/i]
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Oh so an Anarchist site is from an Iraqi paper ?

www.infoshop.org (Infoshop - your online anarchist community)




Alllllllllfuckingrighty then ! :roll:



And that cartoon you posted is titled "Rat Trap"

[url="http://www.infoshop.org/graphics/latuff/RatTrap.gif"]http://www.infoshop.org/graphics/latuff/RatTrap.gif[/url]
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[i][b]Old... Carlos Latuff is a Brazilian Cartoonist that is syndicated Globally in major papers around the world... (obviously not in America)

the pics were posted in reference by these (anarchists) to show what cartoons were showing up inIraqi papers....

of course the Iraqi paper can't post the cartoon on their site...

they don't have any fucking electricity yet [img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/26.gif[/img] [/b][/i]
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[quote name='BlackJesus' date='Aug 10 2005, 04:33 PM'][i][b]Old... Carlos Latuff is a Brazilian Cartoonist that is syndicated Globally in major papers around the world... (obviously not in America)

the pics were posted in reference by these (anarchists) to show what cartoons were showing up inIraqi papers....

of course the Iraqi paper can't post the cartoon on their site...

they don't have any fucking electricity yet [img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/26.gif[/img] [/b][/i]

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and is it americas fault, or the terrorists who target the infostructure w/ bombs fault??
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[b]Iraqi`s for America[/b] [img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons//13.gif[/img]

[url="http://www.untoldiraq.org/"]http://www.untoldiraq.org/[/url]

[b]
[B]Facts and Figures[/b]
3,300 Iraqi schools renovated
20 million Iraqis citizens receive clean water
75 Iraqi medical facilities refurbished
76,000 New jobs created[/b]



[b]Facts and Figures[/b]
[b]Education[/b]
3300
Iraqi schools renovated, or soon to be completed, since the overthrow of Saddam

("What We've Accomplished," Fox News Sunday, April 30, 2004)



9 Million
New math and science textbooks printed and distributed with pro-Saddam propaganda extracted

("What We've Accomplished," Fox News Sunday, April 30, 2004)



85%
Primary and secondary schools that have re-opened since the overthrow of Saddam

("Free After 50 Years of Tyranny," The Observer, October 5, 2003)



159,000
Student desks distributed to Iraqi schools

("Countdown to Sovereignty," Coalition Provisional Authority)



81,735
Teaching kits distributed to Iraqi primary school teachers

("Countdown to Sovereignty," Coalition Provisional Authority)




[b]Human Rights[/b]
71%
Proportion of Iraqis in a February 2004 survey that said they expected their lives to be even better in a year

("National Survey of Iraq," Oxford Research International, February 2004)



76,000
New jobs created by the Iraqi National Employment Program

("Countdown to Sovereignty," Coalition Provisional Authority)



600
New judges presently working in Iraqi Courts of Law

("What We've Accomplished," Fox News Sunday, April 30, 2004)



170
Newspapers currently published in Iraq

("Countdown to Sovereignty," Coalition Provisional Authority)



33%
Percentage of Iraqis that receive worldwide information via satellite

("What We've Accomplished," Fox News Sunday, April 30, 2004)



70
Mosques refurbished by coalition forces

("Countdown to Sovereignty," Coalition Provisional Authority)




[b]Healthcare[/b]
$1 Billion
Current budget for the Iraqi Ministry of Health; 25 times greater than the $16 million annual budget under Saddam's reign

("A Year After Liberation," The Washington Post, April 9, 2004)



25%
Increase in immunization rates among Iraqi children

("What We've Accomplished," Fox News Sunday, April 30, 2004)



75
Iraqi medical facilities refurbished by the Coalition Provisional Authority

("Countdown to Sovereignty," Coalition Provisional Authority)



700,000
Pregnant Iraqi women received a tetanus toxoid vaccination to improve their pre-natal healthcare

("Countdown to Sovereignty," Coalition Provisional Authority)




[b]Infrastructure[/b]
[b]500,000
Average increase in the daily number of oil barrels produced

("What We've Accomplished," Fox News Sunday, April 30, 2004)[/b]
I1m sure BJ will just LOOOOOVE this ! :thumbsup:



16
[b]Average number of hours of electricity for Iraqi citizens; a 40 percent increase from levels under Saddam[/b]

("What We've Accomplished," Fox News Sunday, April 30, 2004)



20 Million
Iraqis of the country's 27 million citizens receive clean water due to new water and sanitation projects

("Countdown to Sovereignty," Coalition Provisional Authority)



1,005,580
Iraqi telephone subscribers; a 20 percent increase from under Saddam

("Countdown to Sovereignty," Coalition Provisional Authority)




[b]Government and Politics[/b]
67
Iraqi cities with fully functioning municipalities only four months after the beginning of the war

("The Real Iraq," The New York Post, July 17, 2003)



85%
Percentage of small Iraqi towns that had fully functioning municipalities only four months after the beginning of the war

("The Real Iraq," The New York Post, July 17, 2003)



81
Iraqi women serve on neighborhood and district councils around Baghdad

("U.S. Commitment to Women in Iraq," Office of International Women's Issues, May 24, 2004)



6
Iraqi women appointed as Cabinet-level ministers in the newly-formed Iraqi Interim Government

("The Interim Iraqi Government," Coalition Provisional Authority, June 1, 2004


[url="http://www.untoldiraq.org/page.cfm?id=7"]http://www.untoldiraq.org/page.cfm?id=7[/url]

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[quote name='oldschooler' date='Aug 10 2005, 04:48 PM']I bet BJ will try to discount this info
because it has FOX News in there...:roll:
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fox = propaganda

duh...
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[quote]Fox News Sunday[/quote]


[img]http://www.simmonsconsulting.com/Pix/4images/data/media/1/Really-Surprised.jpg[/img]

[i]"They were right the whole Time !!!! Goes outside to hang new Flag and stick "Support the Troops" magnet on my Car !!![/i]
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[quote name='BlackJesus' date='Aug 10 2005, 03:50 PM'][/size]
[img]http://www.simmonsconsulting.com/Pix/4images/data/media/1/Really-Surprised.jpg[/img]

[i][size=14]"They were right the whole Time !!!!  Goes outside to hang new Flag and stick "Support the Troops" magnet on my Car !!!
[/i]
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How did I know this was coming ? :lol:


I guess Anarchist sites are the only ones that have
reliable and accurate info... :roll:

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