Arkansas Bengal Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 Bengals OC defends late pass attempt to A.J. Green Why did Andy Dalton pass to A.J. Green when there was time for the Bengals to run the ball, pick up a first down and work the game clock? Norm Hall/Getty Images Coley Harvey, ESPN Staff Writer CINCINNATI -- A day has passed and many of you are still asking the same question. Why in the world did Andy Dalton decide to pass to A.J. Green late Sunday night when there was still time for his Cincinnati Bengals to run the football, pick up a first down and work down the game clock? It's a valid concern. "We don't get to go back and hindsight it," Bengals head coach Marvin Lewis said Monday. "It's easy to sit here after the fact and say, 'If we did this or did that.'" With a little more than a minute remaining in the fourth quarter and his team down three, Dalton brought Cincinnati's offense to the line of scrimmage for a key third-and-2 from Arizona's 25. Many watching at home felt there was enough time on the clock for the Bengals to hand off the ball to running back Giovani Bernard to collect a quick first down to keep the clock moving. Bernard was, after all, one of four ball carriers to contribute to the Bengals' 99-yard rushing output throughout the game. And the Cardinals were out of timeouts with about a minute left. "What if we didn't make it?" offensive coordinator Hue Jackson asked. "You're going to have to kick it anyway. But maybe the clock would've kept running. I can see the logic in that. I do get that, and I respect that." So did Dalton. "You can think of it that way, or you can think you're trying to win the game," Dalton said. "Yeah, you don't want to leave time on the clock, but you also want to try and win and we had a chance." It appeared Jackson and Dalton thought briefly about doing what most fans were requesting and handing the ball off. But as Dalton settled into shotgun, he made some kind of audible intended for Green's eyes and ears only, letting the receiver know that he wanted him to take off on a go route and fly past Justin Bethel, the 6-foot tall backup corner who had just checked in a few plays before for the injured Patrick Peterson. "Oh my God, we have our best player and -- their best corner was on the sideline," Jackson said. "So you've got your best player out on the field and the safety is standing in the middle of the field, you've got to take that shot. Game over." At the moment Dalton faked a mesh handoff on a play action with Giovani Bernard, Green broke free from Bethel. When Dalton let go of the pass, he hung it short near the goal line, where Bethel made contact with the ball before it ricocheted into Green's hands. As he secured the ball, Green tried to keep his feet in bounds by dragging them in the turf and knocking down the pylon. The play didn't get reviewed and was declared an incomplete pass. All Dalton had to do was throw his pass another six or seven yards in a spot where only his 6-foot-4 Pro Bowl receiver could catch it without having to finesse the sideline and the defender. "You can look back on it, but our quarterback does a nice job of making decisions and we have a lot of confidence in our players to be able to handle that situation," Lewis said. "We just would like to have a better outcome next time." http://espn.go.com/blog/cincinnati-bengals/post/_/id/20208/bengals-andy-dalton-aj-green-hue-jackson-touchdown-end-zone-cardinals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SocalBengalEd Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 There's no defending this play. It was completely idiotic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1968 Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 "There's no defending this play. It was completely idiotic. " You are absolutely right SocalBengalEd... Seconded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oz_bengal Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 The explanation / rationalisation makes NO sense. If you try and "win the game" surely you have to balance that with NOT "losing the game"?? 30 yard TD passes on 3rd & 2 aren't easy to come by........why not get the 2 yards and if your so intent on "winning the game" in one big play throw your 28 yard bomb on the next play.........Hot tip Hue........if Patrick Petersen wasn't on the field for 3rd & 2 with a minute to go in a 3 point game I find it hard to believe he is back in for 1st & 10 from the 28...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jupiter Fan Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 Hue covering Andy's ass is admirable and the team first thing to do, but he better be talking to him privately about that shitty decision.I'm not sure ML was on board with the decision, which is saying something considering his time management decisions over his career ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalBuck Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 Hue covering Andy's ass is admirable and the team first thing to do, but he better be talking to him privately about that shitty decision.I'm not sure ML was on board with the decision, which is saying something considering his time management decisions over his career ;-)This post I actually agree with. And I believe this is exactly what probably happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|schotzee| Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 So he should've thrown Dalton under the bus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jupiter Fan Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 So he should've thrown Dalton under the bus? Of course not in public, no one is saying that, but I damn sure hope Hue is taking him to task in private for that decision.O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalBuck Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 So he should've thrown Dalton under the bus? Not certain if this was directed at me or that really unhappy new guy, but keeping things in house is always the way to handle those sorts of situations IMO. Just ask Ezekiel Elliot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlantNGo Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 As dumb as it seems for Andy to check out of the run to throw that fade to AJ, I cannot blame him. Justin Bethel is the 4th corner on the Cardinals and is a special teams demon who is a liability in coverage. With a single high safety and Bethel on AJ, it's worth a shot. Mid-2000s Peyton Manning would pull this kind of thing all the time. Mid-2000s Manning would probably also have thrown a better ball though. So I can't blame Andy for checking out of the run, but he needs to throw a better ball there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|SF2| Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 As dumb as it seems for Andy to check out of the run to throw that fade to AJ, I cannot blame him. Justin Bethel is the 4th corner on the Cardinals and is a special teams demon who is a liability in coverage. With a single high safety and Bethel on AJ, it's worth a shot. Mid-2000s Peyton Manning would pull this kind of thing all the time. Mid-2000s Manning would probably also have thrown a better ball though. So I can't blame Andy for checking out of the run, but he needs to throw a better ball there.Nonsense. It's worth a shot on 2nd and 2 not 3rd and 2 in that situation. That is a 30% throw on a good day. The play reminded me of the first and goal from the one against Baltimore 2 years ago. Playoffs on the line, 3 timeouts remaining, Andy throws a pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dautcom08 Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 It was like being down by one and shooting a half court shot with 30 seconds left and the shot clock turned off. Such a low percentage play. All the time in the world to work the clock, get yourself in an even better position and win the game.The above implies my belief that if they had gotten the first down, they march to score the game winning TD.Just hurts because two potential game winning drives in a row fell flat on their face with a fumble and a bonehead audible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scharm Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 What if we didn't make it?" offensive coordinator Hue Jackson asked. "You're going to have to kick it anyway. But maybe the clock would've kept running. I can see the logic in that. I do get that, and I respect that."Just shut up already. Ya fucked up, big time. Leave it alone and move on. Exactly Hue. We had the same Field Goal attempt we had before and the Cardinals would have had about 30 seconds less to work with, duh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scharm Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 It was like being down by one and shooting a half court shot with 30 seconds left and the shot clock turned off. Such a low percentage play. All the time in the world to work the clock, get yourself in an even better position and win the game.The above implies my belief that if they had gotten the first down, they march to score the game winning TD.Just hurts because two potential game winning drives in a row fell flat on their face with a fumble and a bonehead audible.It is important to remember the last line. Very close to 10-0 but they can't be happy with it and need to right the ship and go on a run the remainder of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dub Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 Guys.. guise.. GYZZ It doesn't matter what the playcall is -Hue Jackson, Offensive Genius & Head Coaching Candidate, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jupiter Fan Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 As dumb as it seems for Andy to check out of the run to throw that fade to AJ, I cannot blame him. Justin Bethel is the 4th corner on the Cardinals and is a special teams demon who is a liability in coverage. With a single high safety and Bethel on AJ, it's worth a shot. Mid-2000s Peyton Manning would pull this kind of thing all the time. Mid-2000s Manning would probably also have thrown a better ball though. So I can't blame Andy for checking out of the run, but he needs to throw a better ball there.A wise man once said "A man's got to know his limitations".Andy ain't 2005 Peyton and Gio was running well and in a good groove, seeing the field well..Another wise man said "3 things can happen on a pass and 2 of them are bad"(OK, stretching a bit here but still) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khatmandude Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 After reflecting on the play, I'm ok with the audible. But if you're going to audible into that play, you'd better execute. Dalton just left it short, a bad throw. If he would have made a decent throw and it's a TD, he's hailed as having huge balls and it being confirmation of him being a different player than years past. Just a matter of execution, a throw I think he should and would make more often than not. Just so happened this time he missed. All the pieces fell into place with the safety being single high, backup corner 1 on 1 with AJ. Doesn't matter the down or distance....you take that shot. I love the mentality, but obviously you have to execute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utts Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 Coaches and players ... Screwing up together. That's some teamwork!Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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