oldschooler Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 Bottom of the article ...http://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/nfl/bengals/2016/01/15/adam-jones-apologizes-antonio-brown-bengals-coaching-changes/78869398/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|High School Harry| Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 Saw that one coming. Carrier was a class act.Would have been nice to see Mike Brown match or better the offers but... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalsOwn Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 Should have seen it coming when the Bengals let the cardinals go 60 yards in less than a minute and the Stealers go 60 yards in the playoffs. Glad they are bringing in New blood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_dish Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 That's a lot of turnover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnglishBengal Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 So every position group gone/changed on defense except DC Guenther. Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scharm Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 Odd for sure. The league's top scoring defense and 40+ sacks. Lap kinda let the cat out of the bag with Carrier, today. Coupled with the succession plan for Hue. Odd coaching turnover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 Second rated scoring defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alleycat Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 Nothing odd about this, imo, except that it was finally allowed to happen after years of needing to.Vance is the real loss, and he's the one guy we clearly wanted to keep.Hayes and Burke both made lateral moves. You can read from that they were asked to leave. Carrier is just flat out gone. More of the same. Anyone who thinks this defense is great pays too much attention to stats and not enough to what happens on the field.Major fail in big moments, big games, and sadly, as we've seen, big moments when all we need to do is keep the opponent from driving 60 or 80 yards in 90 seconds. And that predates this season by a long stretch.Let's also keep in mind that Guenther has now fully settled into his spot, and may have decided that he had the leverage/clout/bona fides to remake the coaching staff in his own image. One thing's for sure, the whispers about lack of discipline were focused on this side of the ball, and given the character blemish tarnish (much of it either unwarranted, trumped up -- or nothing to be ashamed about, in my book) following the playoffs, Mike Brown may have had some demands. Things were eerily silent from this team early this week, and you just know some things were going down.Now, if we can only turn our focus and take the same approach on the other side of the ball. And let's start with our vastly overrated O-Line. It's painful watching so much draft capital continually regress. Let's hope Paul Alexander is next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dub Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 And let's start with our vastly overrated O-Line. It's painful watching so much draft capital continually regress. Let's hope Paul Alexander is next. x1000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scharm Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 Second rated scoring defense.oh? Fire them all! We don't do second around this bitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 Nothing odd about this, imo, except that it was finally allowed to happen after years of needing to.Vance is the real loss, and he's the one guy we clearly wanted to keep.Hayes and Burke both made lateral moves. You can read from that they were asked to leave. Carrier is just flat out gone. More of the same. Anyone who thinks this defense is great pays too much attention to stats and not enough to what happens on the field.Major fail in big moments, big games, and sadly, as we've seen, big moments when all we need to do is keep the opponent from driving 60 or 80 yards in 90 seconds. And that predates this season by a long stretch.Let's also keep in mind that Guenther has now fully settled into his spot, and may have decided that he had the leverage/clout/bona fides to remake the coaching staff in his own image. One thing's for sure, the whispers about lack of discipline were focused on this side of the ball, and given the character blemish tarnish (much of it either unwarranted, trumped up -- or nothing to be ashamed about, in my book) following the playoffs, Mike Brown may have had some demands. Things were eerily silent from this team early this week, and you just know some things were going down.Now, if we can only turn our focus and take the same approach on the other side of the ball. And let's start with our vastly overrated O-Line. It's painful watching so much draft capital continually regress. Let's hope Paul Alexander is next. yep. Guenther finally can piece together his staff the way he wants it. Jim haslett is a nice first piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|schotzee| Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 Nothing odd about this, imo, except that it was finally allowed to happen after years of needing to.Vance is the real loss, and he's the one guy we clearly wanted to keep.Hayes and Burke both made lateral moves. You can read from that they were asked to leave. Carrier is just flat out gone. More of the same. Anyone who thinks this defense is great pays too much attention to stats and not enough to what happens on the field.Major fail in big moments, big games, and sadly, as we've seen, big moments when all we need to do is keep the opponent from driving 60 or 80 yards in 90 seconds. And that predates this season by a long stretch.Let's also keep in mind that Guenther has now fully settled into his spot, and may have decided that he had the leverage/clout/bona fides to remake the coaching staff in his own image. One thing's for sure, the whispers about lack of discipline were focused on this side of the ball, and given the character blemish tarnish (much of it either unwarranted, trumped up -- or nothing to be ashamed about, in my book) following the playoffs, Mike Brown may have had some demands. Things were eerily silent from this team early this week, and you just know some things were going down.Now, if we can only turn our focus and take the same approach on the other side of the ball. And let's start with our vastly overrated O-Line. It's painful watching so much draft capital continually regress. Let's hope Paul Alexander is next. i approve this post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randle P McMurphy Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 Think they bring Coyle back to coach the DB's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BronxBengal Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 Nothing odd about this, imo, except that it was finally allowed to happen after years of needing to.Vance is the real loss, and he's the one guy we clearly wanted to keep.Hayes and Burke both made lateral moves. You can read from that they were asked to leave. Carrier is just flat out gone. More of the same. Anyone who thinks this defense is great pays too much attention to stats and not enough to what happens on the field.Major fail in big moments, big games, and sadly, as we've seen, big moments when all we need to do is keep the opponent from driving 60 or 80 yards in 90 seconds. And that predates this season by a long stretch.Let's also keep in mind that Guenther has now fully settled into his spot, and may have decided that he had the leverage/clout/bona fides to remake the coaching staff in his own image. One thing's for sure, the whispers about lack of discipline were focused on this side of the ball, and given the character blemish tarnish (much of it either unwarranted, trumped up -- or nothing to be ashamed about, in my book) following the playoffs, Mike Brown may have had some demands. Things were eerily silent from this team early this week, and you just know some things were going down.Now, if we can only turn our focus and take the same approach on the other side of the ball. And let's start with our vastly overrated O-Line. It's painful watching so much draft capital continually regress. Let's hope Paul Alexander is next. Please Hue hire Paul.....long over due for an over haul in o line philosophies. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFMAJOR Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 Nothing odd about this, imo, except that it was finally allowed to happen after years of needing to.Vance is the real loss, and he's the one guy we clearly wanted to keep.Hayes and Burke both made lateral moves. You can read from that they were asked to leave. Carrier is just flat out gone. More of the same. Anyone who thinks this defense is great pays too much attention to stats and not enough to what happens on the field.Major fail in big moments, big games, and sadly, as we've seen, big moments when all we need to do is keep the opponent from driving 60 or 80 yards in 90 seconds. And that predates this season by a long stretch.Let's also keep in mind that Guenther has now fully settled into his spot, and may have decided that he had the leverage/clout/bona fides to remake the coaching staff in his own image. One thing's for sure, the whispers about lack of discipline were focused on this side of the ball, and given the character blemish tarnish (much of it either unwarranted, trumped up -- or nothing to be ashamed about, in my book) following the playoffs, Mike Brown may have had some demands. Things were eerily silent from this team early this week, and you just know some things were going down.Now, if we can only turn our focus and take the same approach on the other side of the ball. And let's start with our vastly overrated O-Line. It's painful watching so much draft capital continually regress. Let's hope Paul Alexander is next. A lot of insight in your post. Would love to hear your thoughts on what the Bengals defense will look like for 2016 as well as what players will help to make a difference and which ones should perhaps move on. On another post, I ended it with a quote from Albert Einstein: "The definition of insanity is repeating the same thing over and over again and expecting different results every time". When you look at our losses this past season, what consistently stuck out as a systemic problem? I'll hang up and listen to you commentary. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschooler Posted January 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 Marvin said in the press conference introducing KZ as the OC that all the positions should be filledin the next 3 days or so. So we should hear about some hirings today or tomorrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Lucid| Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 A lot of insight in your post. Would love to hear your thoughts on what the Bengals defense will look like for 2016 as well as what players will help to make a difference and which ones should perhaps move on. On another post, I ended it with a quote from Albert Einstein: "The definition of insanity is repeating the same thing over and over again and expecting different results every time". When you look at our losses this past season, what consistently stuck out as a systemic problem? I'll hang up and listen to you commentary. ThanksPretty sure Einstein never said that. It's been attributed to him with no backing reference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFMAJOR Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 Pretty sure Einstein never said that. It's been attributed to him with no backing reference.And your point is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 that einstein never said it. Why does he need more of a point than that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SocalBengalEd Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 Einstein said 0-7 in playoffs. Let's give it another try. Smh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostInDaJungle Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 We had major breakdowns on defense. You can point to all three levels and point out Peko, Burfict and Pacman as players who were out of control. That goes back to their position coaches.Carrier is an odd one because Nelson, Illoka, Williams, and Shaw all had good years with no major breakdowns. Was he a victim of collective punishment, or did Reggie Nelson get him fired by mixing it up with the Stealers sideline?The message to the players? Your screwups are getting your coaches fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostInDaJungle Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 A lot of insight in your post. Would love to hear your thoughts on what the Bengals defense will look like for 2016 as well as what players will help to make a difference and which ones should perhaps move on. On another post, I ended it with a quote from Albert Einstein: "The definition of insanity is repeating the same thing over and over again and expecting different results every time". When you look at our losses this past season, what consistently stuck out as a systemic problem? I'll hang up and listen to you commentary. ThanksThe best thing about posting quotes on the Internet is that no one checks to see if they're real.~ Benjamin Franklin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFMAJOR Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 that einstein never said it. Why does he need more of a point than that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpalmer2004 Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 I understand turnover but this seems kinda odd. Marvin must have said something internally to the coaches about nearing the end. I guess everyone figured find something if you can get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BronxBengal Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 A lot of insight in your post. Would love to hear your thoughts on what the Bengals defense will look like for 2016 as well as what players will help to make a difference and which ones should perhaps move on. On another post, I ended it with a quote from Albert Einstein: "The definition of insanity is repeating the same thing over and over again and expecting different results every time". When you look at our losses this past season, what consistently stuck out as a systemic problem? I'll hang up and listen to you commentary. ThanksEasy on the offensive side of the ball.... Freaking o line cannot run block verses good defenses. I line always seems to be out coached in big game. Let's hear it for the Maestro for his non impactful blocking schemes!Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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