oldschooler Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 It was a wise move by the Bengals to leave a lot of carryover cap space in 2015 with impending free agents like George Iloka, Marvin Jones and Reggie Nelson needing to be re-signed in 2016. It won't be long until NFL free agency begins, and the Cincinnati Bengals will once again have plenty of money to spend.Once again, the Bengals are among the NFL leaders in carryover cap space, coming in with $7,587,902 that will now be part of their 2016 cap space, the NFLPA announced today. The leftover cap space a team has after the previous league year ends is called carryover cap and that money is later applied to the following league year. Every NFL team elected to carry over unused salary cap space from 2015. The smallest carryover amount is $11,587 by the Seattle Seahawks, and the largest is $32,774,928 by the Jacksonville Jaguars.Though the new salary cap has yet to be set, Over The Cap projects the Bengals will have around $38 million for this offseason. They've factored in projected carryover numbers, though it's unclear if their expectation is the exact amount the NFLPA just announced.Only eight NFL teams have more carryover space than the Bengals. There's no question they'll need every bit of it with impending free agents like George Iloka, Marvin Jonesand Reggie Nelson and Adam Jones needing to be re-signed.In all, the total carryover amount from 2015 is $203,963,112, putting the average carryover per team at $6.4 million. Once the 2016 salary cap is set, the carryover amount and other adjustments from the 2015 season will be combined for each team's official salary cap for 2016. Here's the carryover amounts for all 32 teams: ClubCarryover AmountArizona Cardinals$3,031,663Atlanta Falcons$3,905,771Baltimore Ravens$1,633,944Buffalo Bills$4,467,331Carolina Panthers$3,731,200Chicago Bears$867,589Cincinnati Bengals$7,587,902Cleveland Browns$20,734,144Dallas Cowboys$3,571,239Denver Broncos$3,300,000Detroit Lions$862,191Green Bay Packers$6,953,847Houston Texans$1,637,055Indianapolis Colts$4,950,629Jacksonville Jaguars$32,774,928Kansas City Chiefs$2,622,838Los Angeles Rams$933,521Miami Dolphins$9,137,544Minnesota Vikings$2,090,409New England Patriots$1,347,882New Orleans Saints$1,400,000New York Giants$11,193,231New York Jets$2,484,216Oakland Raiders$13,373,617Philadelphia Eagles$7,255,362Pittsburgh Stealers$3,000,327San Diego Chargers$2,287,176San Francisco 49ers$12,206,686Seattle Seahawks$11,587Tampa Bay Buccaneers$7,987,748Tennessee Titans$20,783,801Washington Redskins$5,837,734 http://www.cincyjungle.com/2016/2/25/11113374/nfl-salary-cap-2016-bengals-have-7-5-million-of-carryover-money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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COB Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 "Holy shit! Rookie pool, incentive bonuses, injury settlements, dead money, acceleration of unamortized signing bonuses, IR list. We're broke." - Geoff Hobson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Tigers Johnson| Posted February 26, 2016 Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 Besides Hobsons view.... How much money does that leave us for 2016? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky151 Posted February 26, 2016 Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 Around 38 mil if the cap is 154. That's probably enough to keep Adam Jones, at least 1 of Nelson or Iloka (maybe both but they may think Shawn Williams is ready), Vinnie Rey, and at least 1 of Marvin Jones or Sanu. Plus Sims, Thompson, Winston, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyrid Posted February 26, 2016 Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 Around 38 mil if the cap is 154. That's probably enough to keep Adam Jones, at least 1 of Nelson or Iloka (maybe both but they may think Shawn Williams is ready), Vinnie Rey, and at least 1 of Marvin Jones or Sanu. Plus Sims, Thompson, Winston, etc.Sounds right to me. Figure Jones, Jones and one of the Safeties cost $18-20M or so to keep combined. That takes us down to ~$20M. Rey and some of the other backups (and maybe a couple cheap outside FAs) probably cost another $7-10M, which takes us to $10-13M. That last $10M for rookie contracts, injuries, maybe an extension for Gio or Shaun Williams?Looks like we're in pretty good shape to keep most of our key FAs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randle P McMurphy Posted February 26, 2016 Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 Around 38 mil if the cap is 154. That's probably enough to keep Adam Jones, at least 1 of Nelson or Iloka (maybe both but they may think Shawn Williams is ready), Vinnie Rey, and at least 1 of Marvin Jones or Sanu. Plus Sims, Thompson, Winston, etc.Sounds right to me. Figure Jones, Jones and one of the Safeties cost $18-20M or so to keep combined. That takes us down to ~$20M. Rey and some of the other backups (and maybe a couple cheap outside FAs) probably cost another $7-10M, which takes us to $10-13M. That last $10M for rookie contracts, injuries, maybe an extension for Gio or Shaun Williams?Looks like we're in pretty good shape to keep most of our key FAs. I would think they'd possibly go to Zeitler about an extension before Gio or Shawn Williams but only because his cap number for 2016as of right now is a little over $8 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalRep85-9 Posted February 26, 2016 Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 One of the safeties is definitely staying. Williams is going into the last year of his deal with nothing dependable behind him.If you can only keep one then I keep Iloka simply due to age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dautcom08 Posted February 26, 2016 Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 Is the $154M the figure after the NFLPA found the NFL hiding that $120M that should have been in the player's pool? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dub Posted February 26, 2016 Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 Is the $154M the figure after the NFLPA found the NFL hiding that $120M that should have been in the player's pool? How awesome was that? I hope they keep getting caught doing this shady shit until we see Goodell's head on a spike. He keeps making Bengals the scapegoat for everything, it'll be fun to see him learn the real reason the owners are paying him that $40m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dautcom08 Posted February 26, 2016 Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 How awesome was that? I hope they keep getting caught doing this shady shit until we see Goodell's head on a spike. He keeps making Bengals the scapegoat for everything, it'll be fun to see him learn the real reason the owners are paying him that $40m.I honestly wonder how criminal charges can't be filed for that whole scheme which is similar to just cooking the books. Not paying your employees $120M that's due to them? That's ethical. Instead it's a "well, just repay and all is forgotten" type of deal for the NFL and back to printing money we go!Van Pelt had a solid take on it if you haven't seen it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dub Posted February 26, 2016 Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 I honestly wonder how criminal charges can't be filed for that whole scheme which is similar to just cooking the books. Not paying your employees $120M that's due to them? That's ethical. Instead it's a "well, just repay and all is forgotten" type of deal for the NFL and back to printing money we go!Van Pelt had a solid take on it if you haven't seen it.Link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dautcom08 Posted February 26, 2016 Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 Had to do some searching but found itHere's @notthefakeSVP's One Big Thing on why the NFL comes off as a "cash-devouring monolith" at every turn. #SCSVP https://t.co/dLHKDTsgLD— SportsCenter (@SportsCenter) February 24, 2016 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dub Posted February 26, 2016 Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 Had to do some searching but found it Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Thanks, if you had to do some searching that means I would've never found it. Didn't know who or what a van Pelt was TBH. "Cash-devouring monolith" is too kind. "Bloated corrupt farce" maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyrid Posted February 26, 2016 Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 I would think they'd possibly go to Zeitler about an extension before Gio or Shawn Williams but only because his cap number for 2016as of right now is a little over $8 million. Wouldn't be surprised if they tried to get something done with Zeitler or Kirkpatrick. Makes sense for the Bengals to try to get something done.But extensions are a 2-way street and it has to make sense for the players too. With Gio and Williams making next to nothing in 2016, they have a real incentive to try to get a deal done now and lock in a nice pay day and not get injured while playing for peanuts. With Zeitler and Kirkpatrick making $8M and $7M, they don't have to be in any rush to get an extension done. If you're Zeitler, would you take a $6M a year extension now? Or would you take your $8M in 2016 and prepare to hit the open market in 2017 when the cap is going to be $160M plus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randle P McMurphy Posted February 26, 2016 Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 Wouldn't be surprised if they tried to get something done with Zeitler or Kirkpatrick. Makes sense for the Bengals to try to get something done.But extensions are a 2-way street and it has to make sense for the players too. With Gio and Williams making next to nothing in 2016, they have a real incentive to try to get a deal done now and lock in a nice pay day and not get injured while playing for peanuts. With Zeitler and Kirkpatrick making $8M and $7M, they don't have to be in any rush to get an extension done. If you're Zeitler, would you take a $6M a year extension now? Or would you take your $8M in 2016 and prepare to hit the open market in 2017 when the cap is going to be $160M plus?You're right about it being a 2-way street. I was looking into some contract stuff and stumbled upon this. Apparently the Bengalshave the highest percentage of cap space in the league tied into the "Guard" position as of right now with just 3 players. Those3 being Zeitler, Clint Boling and Trey Hopkins. http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/positional/guard/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randle P McMurphy Posted February 27, 2016 Report Share Posted February 27, 2016 PFT posted an article stating the cap for 2016 is going to be $155.27 million. That doesn't include whatever carry over money each team has from 2015. Spottrac.com has updated the cap for teams at the same numberso that puts the Bengals with $38,868,157 in cap space. (10th in the league) in terms of available cap space. PFT article - http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/02/26/salary-cap-for-2016-set-at-155-27-million-per-team/Current NFL 2016 Team Cap Space on "Spottrac.com" http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cap/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Tigre Posted February 27, 2016 Report Share Posted February 27, 2016 Thanks, if you had to do some searching that means I would've never found it. Didn't know who or what a van Pelt was TBH. "Cash-devouring monolith" is too kind. "Bloated corrupt farce" maybe.NFL=BCF. Has a nice ring to it. And reported by the nodding donkeys of all sports media, ESPN? Maybe the jig will finally be up on the old BCF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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T-Dub Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 Boling looked decent last year but Zeitler IMO has been in reverse since his rookie season. I bet his technique is flawless now, though.Best offseason move they could make is to get Paul Alexander's old Bengals loser stink out of the building. That guy's the assistant Head Coach? What in the absolute fuck... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky151 Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 Yeah, I remember Zeitler's rookie year when we thought he was better than DeCastro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Tigre Posted February 29, 2016 Report Share Posted February 29, 2016 DeCastro is perfectly set for the Conrad Dobler Award. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|schotzee| Posted February 29, 2016 Report Share Posted February 29, 2016 DeCastro is perfectly set for the Conrad Dobler Award. Yea. Dirty mofo piece of shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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