Jason Posted April 22, 2016 Report Share Posted April 22, 2016 I'm just not sure that getting a guy better hands is something you can coach up. Last thing we need is a guy who drops the ball more than he should.Hands aren't his issue, it's concentration (according to me ND fan friend). And that can be fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted April 22, 2016 Report Share Posted April 22, 2016 Hands aren't his issue, it's concentration (according to me ND fan friend). And that can be fixed.http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/will-fuller?id=2555346Bottom LineFuller doesn't check all the boxes with his slight frame, below average hands and limitations with his game-by-game production, but he possesses the coveted ability to hit the big play and score touchdowns. My grade might be higher than some, but Fuller has the type of functional speed that can win deep and free teammates up in the intermediate passing game. Look for Fuller to come in and contribute early on as a third receiver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimKrumrieFan Posted April 22, 2016 Report Share Posted April 22, 2016 http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/will-fuller?id=2555346Bottom LineFuller doesn't check all the boxes with his slight frame, below average hands and limitations with his game-by-game production, but he possesses the coveted ability to hit the big play and score touchdowns. My grade might be higher than some, but Fuller has the type of functional speed that can win deep and free teammates up in the intermediate passing game. Look for Fuller to come in and contribute early on as a third receiver.He also has very small hands. That isn't ever a good combination with a drops issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted April 22, 2016 Report Share Posted April 22, 2016 He also has very small hands. That isn't ever a good combination with a drops issue.Must be a carnie...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXRfnIfFYFI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SocalBengalEd Posted April 22, 2016 Report Share Posted April 22, 2016 Jerome Simpson had large hands had that work out. Are you guys going off the game tape or draft profiles? I saw every game last year and don't recall his hands as an issue. He reminds me of a more explosive Ted Ginn or Wallace with a better head on his shoulders. He was the star at the combine and didn't drop a single pass. I'd be cool with him but wouldn't mind Doctson, Treadwell or Coleman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyrid Posted April 22, 2016 Report Share Posted April 22, 2016 Jerome Simpson had large hands had that work out. Are you guys going off the game tape or draft profiles? I saw every game last year and don't recall his hands as an issue. He reminds me of a more explosive Ted Ginn or Wallace with a better head on his shoulders. He was the star at the combine and didn't drop a single pass. I'd be cool with him but wouldn't mind Doctson, Treadwell or Coleman. This. He isn't my first choice of the wide receivers, but he wouldn't be a bad pick and his addition would open things up for other guys perhaps more than any other player we could draft and maybe do the most to raise the entire offense up a notch. He did have some drops where he started to run before he caught the ball, but the guy had 138 catches and 29 TDs over the last two seasons. That's a big number for a college player in a pro-style offense against a tough schedule. Every big game ND had in 2015 (exception Clemson v. Alexander w/ safety help in a rain storm), he showed up in a big way:(catches-yards-touchdowns)6-113-1 vs. Ohio State6-136-1 at Stanford7-152-3 at Pitt3-131-1 vs. USC6-131-1 vs. Georgia Tech5-124-2 at Virginia7-142-2 vs. Texas If you can't at least see some of the appeal in a guy who runs a legit 4.3 and put up those numbers against those teams... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnglishBengal Posted April 22, 2016 Report Share Posted April 22, 2016 I keep reading the Bengals are high on Michael Thomas and Braxton Miller. Wouldn't mind either of those two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimKrumrieFan Posted April 22, 2016 Report Share Posted April 22, 2016 Jerome Simpson had large hands had that work out. Are you guys going off the game tape or draft profiles? I saw every game last year and don't recall his hands as an issue. He reminds me of a more explosive Ted Ginn or Wallace with a better head on his shoulders. He was the star at the combine and didn't drop a single pass. I'd be cool with him but wouldn't mind Doctson, Treadwell or Coleman. He's always had an issue with drops. He's not a volume receiver so his drops are a big problem because he isn't going to get 10 catches a game. Not to mention he's not really an option to run over the middle. I think he is a terrible fit here. And I love Dalton, but of all of the throws his deep ball accuracy is the weakest (though it has improved each year) Fuller lives on the deep ball. Seems dumb to waste a pick on a guy that doesn't fit our QBs strengths, isn't a tough guy that can go deep and over the middle (not a good fit for AFCN) and has drop concerns. I'd rather get a WR who can go inside and out and is bigger and more physical for the deep ball throws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalFanInNJ Posted April 22, 2016 Report Share Posted April 22, 2016 Hargreaves failed a drug test. I think he's definitely slipping down board due to size already. Could be w first round corner target.That SOB just became a Steeler because he will probably now be available when they pick. Lucky bastards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randle P McMurphy Posted April 22, 2016 Report Share Posted April 22, 2016 Hargreaves failed a drug test. I think he's definitely slipping down board due to size already. Could be w first round corner target.I saw somewhere, I think it was profootballtalk.com at Hargreaves failing a drug test was a hoax. Apparently themedia fell for another fake twitter account report. lol http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/04/22/reports-of-failed-test-by-vernon-hargreaves-were-phony/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stan Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 This. He isn't my first choice of the wide receivers, but he wouldn't be a bad pick and his addition would open things up for other guys perhaps more than any other player we could draft and maybe do the most to raise the entire offense up a notch. He did have some drops where he started to run before he caught the ball, but the guy had 138 catches and 29 TDs over the last two seasons. That's a big number for a college player in a pro-style offense against a tough schedule. Every big game ND had in 2015 (exception Clemson v. Alexander w/ safety help in a rain storm), he showed up in a big way:(catches-yards-touchdowns)6-113-1 vs. Ohio State6-136-1 at Stanford7-152-3 at Pitt3-131-1 vs. USC6-131-1 vs. Georgia Tech5-124-2 at Virginia7-142-2 vs. Texas If you can't at least see some of the appeal in a guy who runs a legit 4.3 and put up those numbers against those teams...This! They need someone who is fast opposite Green.If Doctson,Coleman and Treadwell sre gone,Fuller would be a good choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackBengal Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 I agree on Fuller. Really don't want him. If we go WR in the first I want Doctson, Shepard, Treadwell or Coleman in that order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimKrumrieFan Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 I agree on Fuller. Really don't want him. If we go WR in the first I want Doctson, Shepard, Treadwell or Coleman in that order.Love those 4, but I wouldn't take Shepard without trading back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackBengal Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 Wouldn't be shocked to see Shepard go before Treadwell and Fuller. Media mocks have underrated Shepard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengaled Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 Wouldn't be shocked to see Shepard go before Treadwell and Fuller. Media mocks have underrated Shepard. That's a rather bold statement, yet one I agree with. I don't think he'll climb into the 1st round, but he's definitely been undervalued. I believe those folks that are expecting to hopefully grab him at #55 are going to be surprised they were so far off. I think we could trade back to the #40-45 area and have a good chance at grabbing him so that's about where I'd equate his value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey6866 Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 Hargreaves failed a drug test. I think he's definitely slipping down board due to size already. Could be w first round corner target.that was a fake report Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyrid Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 Here's the link to the interview with Lapham and also an interview with Marvin: http://www.iheart.com/show/Lance-McAlister/?episode_id=27500750 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyrid Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 Just listened to this again, and Lapham is all about Coleman and Fuller as the dream picks in round 1. I don't think Coleman makes it to 24, so my money is on Fuller being the Bengals pick at #24. Going to be some pissed off go-bengals fans because almost nobody seems to like him for whatever reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Jersey Bengal Posted April 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 I think Fuller would be a decent pick...He seems like a decent kid and Notre Dame usually produces players with good character..He can learn how to run better routes and catch the ball better for sure.. You cannot teach speed..he is supposedly a decent blocker also...I would rather have Sterling Sheppard than any of these receivers though.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stan Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 Of the possible 1st rnd wr's,Fuller probably has the best chance of still being available.I would be ok with him as the pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 I think Fuller would be a decent pick...He seems like a decent kid and Notre Dame usually produces players with good character..He can learn how to run better routes and catch the ball better for sure.. You cannot teach speed..he is supposedly a decent blocker also...I would rather have Sterling Sheppard than any of these receivers though..Hmmm I think Fuller is the best route runner of the top guys. Can cut on a dime.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackBengal Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 The Bengals have earned the benefit of the doubt on WRs as they have done well selecting WR in the past several years (Green, Sanu, Jones), but I am going to have a hard time talking myself into liking Fuller as a first round pick. He just doesn't fit Dalton. He would be okay with a QB like Roethlisberger that throws a huge deep bomb. Would much rather see Sterling Shepard be the pick if Doctson is gone. Or just go with a defensive player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StripesEarned Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 Treadwell all the way. Better playing speed than his 40 time big strong not afraid to block runs good routes sets up his defender nicely good enough hands. Has that next gear when ball goes in the air akin to T.O. he can be our T.J to A.J. as T.J. was to C. Johnson. Would be good with throwing fades to him or back shoulders and letting him big boy dbs. In my opinion he fits Cincy better than any of the other wrs in the draft without question. Him and Eifert as 2/3 options to keep chains moving while still having to respect them as viable deep threats along with AJ always being a big threat to go over the top is a great situation to be in for Dalton and the rest of the offense. It's what would be ideal in my opinion anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackBengal Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 Treadwell all the way. Better playing speed than his 40 time big strong not afraid to block runs good routes sets up his defender nicely good enough hands. Has that next gear when ball goes in the air akin to T.O. he can be our T.J to A.J. as T.J. was to C. Johnson. Would be good with throwing fades to him or back shoulders and letting him big boy dbs. In my opinion he fits Cincy better than any of the other wrs in the draft without question. Him and Eifert as 2/3 options to keep chains moving while still having to respect them as viable deep threats along with AJ always being a big threat to go over the top is a great situation to be in for Dalton and the rest of the offense. It's what would be ideal in my opinion anyway. I'm not sure that I agree that Treadwell has better playing speed than his 40 time. He is a great player, but he doesn't look very fast on the field. I think that is why he has so many great highlight contested catches. He doesn't get much separation unless there is blown coverage. His speed is a serious concern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo Montoya Posted April 26, 2016 Report Share Posted April 26, 2016 Put me down as a fan of Will Fuller. Coleman would be the dream pick, but I doubt he falls that far. Either one would add serious speed at WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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