Go Skins Posted December 22, 2016 Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 Now Trump is saying he would have campaigned differently to win the popular vote. http://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-tweets-on-clinton-winning-popular-vote/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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oldschooler Posted December 29, 2016 Report Share Posted December 29, 2016 Fuck Donald Trump What a piece of shit. Anyone that thinks he is anything other than a piece of shit, cares more about the Republican party than they do everything else in the world combined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Go Skins Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/trump-mexico-still-paying-for-the-wall/article/2611067?custom_click=rss  President-elect Trump tweeted Friday that the media was lying again about who would pay for the wall, after late Thursday reports said he was pushing Congress to pay for it. Trump indicated that Congress may end up appropriating money to build the wall, but insisted that Mexico would ultimately pay the U.S. back. He said doing it this way would let the U.S. immediately start building the wall, instead of waiting for Mexico to pony up billions of dollars first.  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyInDC Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 Who's laughing now? Probably still this guy.  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go Skins Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 LOL! Good one CincyinDC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Homer_Rice Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 Two months later and folks are still buying the "sore-loser" gripes of the Democratic apparatus? Read the weak sauce presented in the declassified assessment that was released. Why did the Dems lose? There are a number of reasons: 1) They picked the wrong candidate. 2) They lost touch with their traditional base long ago, building instead an identity politics-based coalition that proved to be fragile. This began with Carter, was consolidated by Bill Clinton, and when President Obama doubled-down on the neoliberal hooey, a lot of regular folks just gave up on the party. Secretary Clinton not only ran a bad campaign, but her disdain for the "deplorables" was just a final step in abandoning the working class in favor of the credentialed class. 3) More germane to recent events, the attempts to jam this Cold War II stuff down our throats, in combination with all the "fake news" OMG ploys, not only shows just how little some portions of the elite establishment think of the common person, but more importantly exposes some rifts in the policy goals of the deep state. What you are experiencing and will experience with gusto when the Charlatan-elect takes power is a combo of two vectors: A lot of disdain for the general welfare of a vast majority of the US population, and a lot of floundering around as the elites try to come to grips with the new multi-polar world that is emerging. It's the end of the "end of history." Too bad a lot of teeth are gonna get pulled sans novacaine because our political classes are just asses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dub Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 Homer you're pretty much spot-on as usual. Only thing I would add is that, for me at least, I have no illusions about why Hillary lost the election. I still find it fucked up & kind of scary how much people seem to admire Putin. I also think it's undeniable that he tried to influence our election, as we do theirs & whoever else's, and I seriously doubt ol' Vlad wants what is best for America. Like you said, what's done is done. We're entering the consequences phase now. So here's my question; at what point do the Trump faithful start abandoning ship? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 15 hours ago, Homer_Rice said: Two months later and folks are still buying the "sore-loser" gripes of the Democratic apparatus? Read the weak sauce presented in the declassified assessment that was released. Why did the Dems lose? There are a number of reasons: 1) They picked the wrong candidate. 2) They lost touch with their traditional base long ago, building instead an identity politics-based coalition that proved to be fragile. This began with Carter, was consolidated by Bill Clinton, and when President Obama doubled-down on the neoliberal hooey, a lot of regular folks just gave up on the party. Secretary Clinton not only ran a bad campaign, but her disdain for the "deplorables" was just a final step in abandoning the working class in favor of the credentialed class. 3) More germane to recent events, the attempts to jam this Cold War II stuff down our throats, in combination with all the "fake news" OMG ploys, not only shows just how little some portions of the elite establishment think of the common person, but more importantly exposes some rifts in the policy goals of the deep state. What you are experiencing and will experience with gusto when the Charlatan-elect takes power is a combo of two vectors: A lot of disdain for the general welfare of a vast majority of the US population, and a lot of floundering around as the elites try to come to grips with the new multi-polar world that is emerging. It's the end of the "end of history." Too bad a lot of teeth are gonna get pulled sans novacaine because our political classes are just asses.  Yep. I can say with authority based on my job that the Russians did involve themselves in our election, much in the same manner we do to others, however it was not the reason we lost. Exit polls show that, Obama himself said so when he had his press conference about it as well. I just find a bit of Irony however in the Reagan Republicans like Jason having Putin wanting Trump to win, and wonder how he feels about that for lack of better words "uncomfortable alliance". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Elflocko| Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 13 minutes ago, Jamie_B said:  Yep. I can say with authority based on my job that the Russians did involve themselves in our election, much in the same manner we do to others, however it was not the reason we lost. Exit polls show that, Obama himself said so when he had his press conference about it as well. I just find a bit of Irony however in the Reagan Republicans like Jason having Putin wanting Trump to win, and wonder how he feels about that for lack of better words "uncomfortable alliance". No kidding. Hillary Clinton was and is the most polarizing presidential candidate in *my* lifetime. I held my nose and voted for her as the alternative was simply vile, but egad, she was a terrible candidate. And in regard to the hacking, there is no doubt. Thing is, I also have no doubt they have hacked the RNC as well, and they either haven't admitted it, or don't know (our government is run by, and therefore they surround themselves with, technological half-wits). The one thing I've learned over the years is that it's not if they get in but when, and it comes down to how well you mitigate the risk and control the damage... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 Just now, Elflocko said: No kidding. Hillary Clinton was and is the most polarizing presidential candidate in *my* lifetime. I held my nose and voted for her as the alternative was simply vile, but egad, she was a terrible candidate. And in regard to the hacking, there is no doubt. Thing is, I also have no doubt they have hacked the RNC as well, and they either haven't admitted it, or don't know (our government is run by, and therefore they surround themselves with, technological half-wits). The one thing I've learned over the years is that it's not if they get in but when, and it comes down to how well you mitigate the risk and control the damage... I mean I have people that gave me a hard time over voting for Stein in a state that was close but relatively safe. No idea if they hacked the RNC, though I'd be surprised, it seems as if Putin had a personal vendetta against Clinton. All I know is the words "The Russians are being more aggressive" were spoken in a meeting I attended, wasn't meant to imply anything other than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Elflocko| Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 5 minutes ago, Jamie_B said: I mean I have people that gave me a hard time over voting for Stein in a state that was close but relatively safe. No idea if they hacked the RNC, though I'd be surprised, it seems as if Putin had a personal vendetta against Clinton. All I know is the words "The Russians are being more aggressive" were spoken in a meeting I attended, wasn't meant to imply anything other than that. Why? If you're going to play the game, you need to play both sides. Plus, it's there, so why not take it? Also, the Russians aren't the only ones in the game; I have more concern for, and get a lot more activity from, the Chinese. Pound for pound, they're some of the best hackers in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 1 minute ago, Elflocko said: Why? If you're going to play the game, you need to play both sides. Plus, it's there, so why not take it? Also, the Russians aren't the only ones in the game; I have more concern for, and get a lot more activity from, the Chinese. Pound for pound, they're some of the best hackers in the world. We already pay attention to both, just the Russians are being more aggressive than in the past is all. You're probably right about the RNC getting hacked too though tbh, shall be interesting if they don't play along on what gets released  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Elflocko| Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 And for the record, this bullshit is why I can't wait to get out of IT. It is simply no longer any fun, and the constant 24/7/365 attention you have to hold, the incessant monitoring, the malware and ransomware risks, the idiot end-users who simply can't stop clicking on links in emails... it's just exhausting. It's just unrelenting, and mark my words, the good guys are not going to win in the end. And by "Good Guys", I mean the common folk who always bear the brunt of the fallout from this shit... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 5 minutes ago, Elflocko said: And for the record, this bullshit is why I can't wait to get out of IT. It is simply no longer any fun, and the constant 24/7/365 attention you have to hold, the incessant monitoring, the malware and ransomware risks, the idiot end-users who simply can't stop clicking on links in emails... it's just exhausting. It's just unrelenting, and mark my words, the good guys are not going to win in the end. And by "Good Guys", I mean the common folk who always bear the brunt of the fallout from this shit... I saw a post on linkedin of all places suggesting we tech heads need to get ahead of the oncoming tech push back that will come when people realize part of the reason jobs are being lost is due to automation and the tech shift and when they realize that they will come after us. It was a good read until I realized he was using it to promote his company. https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/coming-tech-backlash-ross-mayfield?trkInfo=VSRPsearchId%3A47943381483809056142%2CVSRPtargetId%3A6222249987619852288%2CVSRPcmpt%3Aprimary&trk=vsrp_influencer_content_res_name Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Montana Bengal| Posted January 10, 2017 Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/10/politics/donald-trump-intelligence-report-russia/index.html Quote  Intel chiefs presented Trump with claims of Russian efforts to compromise him (CNN)Classified documents presented last week to President Obama and President-elect Trump included allegations that Russian operatives claim to have compromising personal and financial information about Mr. Trump, multiple US officials with direct knowledge of the briefings tell CNN. The allegations were presented in a two-page synopsis that was appended to a report on Russian interference in the 2016 election. The allegations came, in part, from memos compiled by a former British intelligence operative, whose past work US intelligence officials consider credible. The FBI is investigating the credibility and accuracy of these allegations, which are based primarily on information from Russian sources, but has not confirmed many essential details in the memos about Mr. Trump. The classified briefings last week were presented by four of the senior-most US intelligence chiefs -- Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, FBI Director James Comey, CIA Director John Brennan, and NSA Director Admiral Mike Rogers. One reason the nation's intelligence chiefs took the extraordinary step of including the synopsis in the briefing documents was to make the President-elect aware that such allegations involving him are circulating among intelligence agencies, senior members of Congress and other government officials in Washington, multiple sources tell CNN. These senior intelligence officials also included the synopsis to demonstrate that Russia had compiled information potentially harmful to both political parties, but only released information damaging to Hillary Clinton and Democrats. This synopsis was not an official part of the report from the intelligence community case about Russian hacks, but some officials said it augmented the evidence that Moscow intended to harm Clinton's candidacy and help Trump's, several officials with knowledge of the briefings tell CNN. The two-page synopsis also included allegations that there was a continuing exchange of information during the campaign between Trump surrogates and intermediaries for the Russian government, according to two national security officials. Sources tell CNN that these same allegations about communications between the Trump campaign and the Russians, mentioned in classified briefings for congressional leaders last year, prompted then-Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid to send a letter to FBI Director Comey in October, in which he wrote, "It has become clear that you possess explosive information about close ties and coordination between Donald Trump, his top advisors, and the Russian government -- a foreign interest openly hostile to the United States." CNN has confirmed that the synopsis was included in the documents that were presented to Mr. Trump but cannot confirm if it was discussed in his meeting with the intelligence chiefs. The Trump transition team declined repeated requests for comment. CNN has reviewed a 35-page compilation of the memos, from which the two-page synopsis was drawn. The memos originated as opposition research, first commissioned by anti-Trump Republicans, and later by Democrats. At this point, CNN is not reporting on details of the memos, as it has not independently corroborated the specific allegations. But, in preparing this story, CNN has spoken to multiple high ranking intelligence, administration, congressional and law enforcement officials, as well as foreign officials and others in the private sector with direct knowledge of the memos. Some of the memos were circulating as far back as last summer. What has changed since then is that US intelligence agencies have now checked out the former British intelligence operative and his vast network throughout Europe and find him and his sources to be credible enough to include some of the information in the presentations to the President and President-elect a few days ago. On the same day that the President-elect was briefed by the intelligence community, the top four Congressional leaders, and chairmen and ranking members of the House and Senate intelligence committees -- the so-called "Gang of Eight" -- were also provided a summary of the memos regarding Mr. Trump, according to law enforcement, intelligence and administration sources. The two-page summary was written without the detailed specifics and information about sources and methods included in the memos by the former British intelligence official. That said, the synopsis was considered so sensitive it was not included in the classified report about Russian hacking that was more widely distributed, but rather in an annex only shared at the most senior levels of the government: President Obama, the President-elect, and the eight Congressional leaders. CNN has also learned that on December 9, Senator John McCain gave a full copy of the memos -- dated from June through December, 2016 -- to FBI Director James Comey. McCain became aware of the memos from a former British diplomat who had been posted in Moscow. But the FBI had already been given a set of the memos compiled up to August 2016, when the former MI6 agent presented them to an FBI official in Rome, according to national security officials. The raw memos on which the synopsis is based were prepared by the former MI6 agent, who was posted in Russia in the 1990s and now runs a private intelligence gathering firm. His investigations related to Mr. Trump were initially funded by groups and donors supporting Republican opponents of Mr. Trump during the GOP primaries, multiple sources confirmed to CNN. Those sources also said that once Mr. Trump became the nominee, further investigation was funded by groups and donors supporting Hillary Clinton. Spokespeople for the FBI and the Director of National Intelligence declined to comment. Officials who spoke to CNN declined to do so on the record given the classified nature of the material. Some of the allegations were first reported publicly in Mother Jones one week before the election. One high level administration official told CNN, "I have a sense the outgoing administration and intelligence community is setting down the pieces so this must be investigated seriously and run down. I think [the] concern was to be sure that whatever information was out there is put into the system so it is evaluated as it should be and acted upon as necessary."   Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Elflocko| Posted January 10, 2017 Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 On 1/7/2017 at 8:57 AM, Jamie_B said: We already pay attention to both, just the Russians are being more aggressive than in the past is all. You're probably right about the RNC getting hacked too though tbh, shall be interesting if they don't play along on what gets released  I had no doubt: "FBI's Comey Says Russia Also 'Harvested' Data From Republicans" http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/01/10/509170300/fbis-comey-says-russia-also-harvested-data-from-republicans?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_content=20170110 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted January 10, 2017 Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 1 minute ago, Elflocko said: I had no doubt: "FBI's Comey Says Russia Also 'Harvested' Data From Republicans" http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/01/10/509170300/fbis-comey-says-russia-also-harvested-data-from-republicans?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_content=20170110 Well there ya go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschooler Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 Please be true!!! Puh-leez be true!!! Â LMFAO at the comments! Pure gold! (pun intended) Â Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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T-Dub Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 16 minutes ago, Montana Bengal said: Â Â Even now, at this late hour, I'm still halfway expecting some Trump staffer or maybe one of the schmucks from Jackass to pop in like JUST KIDDING OMG U THOUGHT WE WERE SERIOUS LOL DONALD TRUMP THO AYYY BOI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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