Go Skins Posted April 19, 2017 Report Share Posted April 19, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted April 19, 2017 Report Share Posted April 19, 2017 wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluhartz Posted April 19, 2017 Report Share Posted April 19, 2017 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯So much for that new trial. Sent from my iPhone using Go-Bengals.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatternMaster Posted April 19, 2017 Report Share Posted April 19, 2017 I guess he figured this was better than spending his life behind bars as a caged animal. I couldn't imagine going from a millionaire sports star with everything at your at disposal to being locked in a small cell and being told when to shower and eat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyInDC Posted April 19, 2017 Report Share Posted April 19, 2017 27 minutes ago, PatternMaster said: I guess he figured this was better than spending his life behind bars as a caged animal. I couldn't imagine going from a millionaire sports star with everything at your at disposal to being locked in a small cell and being told when to shower and eat. Neither can I. But then again, I didn't kill a man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat Posted April 19, 2017 Report Share Posted April 19, 2017 3 minutes ago, CincyInDC said: Neither can I. But then again, I didn't kill a man three men. With an asterisk of course... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyInDC Posted April 19, 2017 Report Share Posted April 19, 2017 Details. I still maintain I didn't kill a man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Montana Bengal| Posted April 19, 2017 Report Share Posted April 19, 2017 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/04/19/under-massachusetts-aaron-hernandez-suicide-voids-murder-conviction/ Quote Under Massachusetts law, Aaron Hernandez suicide voids murder conviction Posted by Josh Alper on April 19, 2017, 10:49 AM EDT Aaron Hernandez was found dead in his prison cell on Wednesday morning after hanging himself using bedsheets and, under Massachusetts law, that means the murder conviction that sent him to prison in the first place has been voided. Hernandez was still in the process of appealing his 2014 conviction of murdering Odin Lloyd, which means a legal principle dating back to English common law called “abatement ab initio” applies to his case. “Ab initio” translates to “from the beginning” and chief legal counsel to the Massachusetts Bar Association Michael Healy told the Boston Globe that the principle reverts a case to its start if the convicted party dies before the appeals process has concluded. Healy said that civil proceedings in other cases involving the death of the convicted party were complicated because evidence established in the criminal trial cannot be used to make the civil case. “Unfortunately, in the Odin Lloyd matter, for the family, there won’t be any real closure,” Healy said. “Aaron Hernandez will go to his death an innocent man.” Not all states still have “abatement ab initio” on the books and some eliminated it after the death of those convicted in high profile cases. Healy said it would not be surprising if a Massachusetts legislator introduced legislation to eliminate it in the state in light of Hernandez’s suicide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted April 19, 2017 Report Share Posted April 19, 2017 5 minutes ago, CincyInDC said: Details. I still maintain I didn't kill a man. That's because the hooker wasn't a man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooky Posted April 19, 2017 Report Share Posted April 19, 2017 “Unfortunately, in the Odin Lloyd matter, for the family, there won’t be any real closure,” Healy said. “Aaron Hernandez will go to his death an innocent man.” That is one of the dumbest things I've ever read. And I'm well read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatternMaster Posted April 19, 2017 Report Share Posted April 19, 2017 5 minutes ago, Hooky said: “Unfortunately, in the Odin Lloyd matter, for the family, there won’t be any real closure,” Healy said. “Aaron Hernandez will go to his death an innocent man.” That is one of the dumbest things I've ever read. And I'm well read. He was convicted and sentenced, so how is he innocent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat Posted April 19, 2017 Report Share Posted April 19, 2017 Apparently a suicide vacates a guilty verdict? I saw the same thing and am confused... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooky Posted April 19, 2017 Report Share Posted April 19, 2017 10 minutes ago, PatternMaster said: He was convicted and sentenced, so how is he innocent? Right. What I also thought was dumb was that the family knows who murdered him and the murderer is not out walking the street, so there is closure. Regardless of what the deceased murderer's legal status is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Montana Bengal| Posted April 19, 2017 Report Share Posted April 19, 2017 1 hour ago, PatternMaster said: He was convicted and sentenced, so how is he innocent? "Hernandez was still in the process of appealing his 2014 conviction of murdering Odin Lloyd, which means a legal principle dating back to English common law called “abatement ab initio” applies to his case. “Ab initio” translates to “from the beginning” and chief legal counsel to the Massachusetts Bar Association Michael Healy told the Boston Globe that the principle reverts a case to its start if the convicted party dies before the appeals process has concluded." So he was appealing the case, died, and since that appeal was still in process he basically gets 'off'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passepartout Posted April 19, 2017 Report Share Posted April 19, 2017 He probably could not handle jail. So he took his life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChicagoBengal Posted April 19, 2017 Report Share Posted April 19, 2017 In other Patriots TE news, Rob Gronkowski bought a bang boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dub Posted April 19, 2017 Report Share Posted April 19, 2017 6 hours ago, Jamie_B said: That's because the hooker wasn't a man. *didn't identify as a man So Hernandez is technically innocent? #teamslikethePatriots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooky Posted April 20, 2017 Report Share Posted April 20, 2017 11 hours ago, T-Dub said: *didn't identify as a man So Hernandez is technically innocent? #teamslikethePatriots Did the pats have any serious fallout from the media when he was arrested for murder or after? I seemed to recall him being seen as a murder suspect who happened to play for the pats. Lord help us if a Bengal got arrested for murder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatternMaster Posted April 20, 2017 Report Share Posted April 20, 2017 2 hours ago, Hooky said: Did the pats have any serious fallout from the media when he was arrested for murder or after? I seemed to recall him being seen as a murder suspect who happened to play for the pats. Lord help us if a Bengal got arrested for murder. Winning is the best perfume, this world will tolerate a lot from "winners". Example A, the POTUS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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