SmoothD Posted August 18, 2017 Report Share Posted August 18, 2017 Bortles has completely lost it. Jags look like they are very close to competing. Nice receivers, stud RB, and a very good young defense. If I'm the Bengals, I'm making that call today. Just saw this right after I created the thread https://nflmocks.com/2017/08/18/the-jacksonville-jaguars-have-inquired-about-a-j-mccarron/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted August 18, 2017 Report Share Posted August 18, 2017 If Driskel continues to play well, I am willing to trade him for "just" a first round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turningpoint Posted August 18, 2017 Report Share Posted August 18, 2017 Yeah, I'd take the jags 1st rounder, hell possibly their 2nd rounder. I think they're going to suck this year, 4th place is happening for sure, texans, colts and titans are all better teams. Would be insane if we could trade McCarron and end up with the 1st overall Pick and draft the best QB whether that's the USC guy or the Wyoming QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted August 18, 2017 Report Share Posted August 18, 2017 A 1st and a conditional 2nd or 3rd, based on the Jags record. If it boots them out of the top 10 in the draft we get a 2nd (or 3rd) in addition to the 1st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmoothD Posted August 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2017 7 minutes ago, turningpoint said: Yeah, I'd take the jags 1st rounder, hell possibly their 2nd rounder. I think they're going to suck this year, 4th place is happening for sure, texans, colts and titans are all better teams. Would be insane if we could trade McCarron and end up with the 1st overall Pick and draft the best QB whether that's the USC guy or the Wyoming QB Colts without Luck are a 4 win team, at best. Jags have 3 above average receivers in Hurns, Robinson, and the underrated Marqise Lee (who plays a lot like TJ Houshmanzadeh). A decent game manager is all they need Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turningpoint Posted August 18, 2017 Report Share Posted August 18, 2017 1 minute ago, SmoothD said: Colts without Luck are a 4 win team, at best. Jags have 3 above average receivers in Hurns, Robinson, and the underrated Marqise Lee (who plays a lot like TJ Houshmanzadeh). A decent game manager is all they need True, but i think luck plays, best case I think jags are 7-9 with mcCarron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dub Posted August 18, 2017 Report Share Posted August 18, 2017 Don't see any reason to take less than a 1st rounder for him, at least conditionally + some other picks. He's already proven he can play in the NFL which is more than you can say for anyone they could draft. Clearly some folks would rather have the magic beans but that's my price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turningpoint Posted August 18, 2017 Report Share Posted August 18, 2017 2 minutes ago, T-Dub said: Don't see any reason to take less than a 1st rounder for him, at least conditionally + some other picks. He's already proven he can play in the NFL which is more than you can say for anyone they could draft. Clearly some folks would rather have the magic beans but that's my price. You're also forgetting that we have 1 maybe 2 more years. I'll take a waiver on Wyoming or USC QB with 5 years of him being under contract, but hey he'll be worthless because he'll be #2 on the depth chart is that ok? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dub Posted August 18, 2017 Report Share Posted August 18, 2017 25 minutes ago, turningpoint said: You're also forgetting that we have 1 maybe 2 more years. I'll take a waiver on Wyoming or USC QB with 5 years of him being under contract, but hey he'll be worthless because he'll be #2 on the depth chart is that ok? Your input is equally worthless and you don't mind sharing that, so.. maybe? IDK, was that a question or just you being a douche? My simple mind can't tell the difference. TBF it's not as obvious as the difference between a #2 QB and a 3rd-string #2 WR, but I have neither the patience nor the crayons to explain it for you. I suggest you stick with the name-calling as it's clearly more suited to your dizzying intellect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmoothD Posted August 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2017 41 minutes ago, T-Dub said: Your input is equally worthless and you don't mind sharing that, so.. maybe? IDK, was that a question or just you being a douche? My simple mind can't tell the difference. TBF it's not as obvious as the difference between a #2 QB and a 3rd-string #2 WR, but I have neither the patience nor the crayons to explain it for you. I suggest you stick with the name-calling as it's clearly more suited to your dizzying intellect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredtoast Posted August 18, 2017 Report Share Posted August 18, 2017 I have not seen enough from Driscoll to trade McCarron for anything. Draft picks are not going to help us if Dalton goes down for a few games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Alice Posted August 18, 2017 Report Share Posted August 18, 2017 A.J. McCarron straight up isn't going to bring a first round pick.It'd have to be something like A.J. and a 3rd.If Dalton misses significant time, the Bengals are probably dead in the water, any way. If you can get a first round pick, you have to make that trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimKrumrieFan Posted August 18, 2017 Report Share Posted August 18, 2017 2 hours ago, SmoothD said: Colts without Luck are a 4 win team, at best. Jags have 3 above average receivers in Hurns, Robinson, and the underrated Marqise Lee (who plays a lot like TJ Houshmanzadeh). A decent game manager is all they need And Dede Westbrook will probably end up better than Hurns or Lee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dub Posted August 18, 2017 Report Share Posted August 18, 2017 8 minutes ago, fredtoast said: I have not seen enough from Driscoll to trade McCarron for anything. Agree any potential trade is predicated on Driscoll showing well through the rest of the preseason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 I would just rather keep McCarron and maybe if Dalton were to screw up this year we could have a QB controversy. Personally I think McCarron has potential to be a great NFL QB.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snarkster Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 Their 1st and a nice young developmental 3rd tackle if they happen to have one - I'd be willing to chip in one of our surplus pieces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky151 Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 Jags won't trade a 1st for McCarron unless he agrees to a new contract. He wants to be a starter so if they offer starter money, he'd probably go along. They'd probably also only offer a 1st as a conditional pick, meaning something like McCarron starts 10 or more games and the team has a winning record. Failing that, we get a 2nd+3rd or some such. I'd still do that deal as either side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredtoast Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 16 hours ago, Big Alice said: If Dalton misses significant time, the Bengals are probably dead in the water, any way. This is not true at all. If Dalton misses 3 or 4 games and comes back for the playoffs the back up QB becomes one of the most important positions on the team. Just look at the '15 team. We were a legit Super Bowl contender with Dalton. It would be a shame to have a team like that and miss the playoffs because we had a weak back up QB for a few games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|schotzee| Posted August 20, 2017 Report Share Posted August 20, 2017 Do the Jags have any decent safeties to trade him for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Bunghole| Posted August 20, 2017 Report Share Posted August 20, 2017 On 8/18/2017 at 5:29 PM, Big Alice said: A.J. McCarron straight up isn't going to bring a first round pick. It'd have to be something like A.J. and a 3rd. If Dalton misses significant time, the Bengals are probably dead in the water, any way. If you can get a first round pick, you have to make that trade. McCarron isn't worth a 1st round pick. If we can get a second for him before he walks, take it. 2 hours ago, schotzee said: Do the Jags have any decent safeties to trade him for? They used to! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dub Posted August 20, 2017 Report Share Posted August 20, 2017 13 minutes ago, Bunghole said: McCarron isn't worth a 1st round pick. You may be right. He's looked serviceable running a limited offense with a top-tier group of WR/TE's. If you'll excuse a bit of armchair sports psychology, he gets flustered when things aren't going well. I think he'd throw a lot of INTs as a starter from trying to force things or underestimating the DB's ability to close. TBF that INT last night was low-effort from the WR, though. IDK who that was offhand but he looked lost out there. Point being I suspect his ceiling is lower than what I had hoped. AJ "Way Better Than Dalton" McCarron? Yeah, you wish homie. He's better than a #2 QB but only just. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|westside bengal| Posted August 20, 2017 Report Share Posted August 20, 2017 Not suggesting anything and I did not see the game....but according to the box score except for the interception AJ threw the stats between Andy and AJ were almost identical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Bunghole| Posted August 20, 2017 Report Share Posted August 20, 2017 I think the point is that either he isn't as good as many of us think, the sample size is too small, NFL teams aren't knocking down Mike Brown's door with starting QB-caliber offers, or all of these combined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|High School Harry| Posted August 20, 2017 Report Share Posted August 20, 2017 I would trade Andy for a 2nd and keep AJ McCarron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Bunghole| Posted August 20, 2017 Report Share Posted August 20, 2017 40 minutes ago, High School Harry said: I would trade Andy for a 2nd and keep AJ McCarron. Yeah, right. Andy IS worth a first round pick these days and he is clearly better than McCarron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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