|Montana Bengal| Posted November 6, 2017 Report Share Posted November 6, 2017 Quote Jim OwczarskiVerified account @JimOwczarski 3m3 minutes ago More #Bengals WR A.J. Green avoids suspension from the NFL - though he is being reviewed for a fine. http://cin.ci/2znuA02 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Montana Bengal| Posted November 6, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2017 Quote Paul Dehner Jr.Verified account @pauldehnerjr 29s29 seconds ago More Paul Dehner Jr. Retweeted Jerry I'd expect a hefty fine for sure, but will be way less than the $606K he would have lost in a game check if suspended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted November 6, 2017 Report Share Posted November 6, 2017 USA today - https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2017/11/06/a-j-green-faces-fine-no-suspension-from-bengals-implosion/107412916/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|SF2| Posted November 6, 2017 Report Share Posted November 6, 2017 I can imagine the discussion: "So how many games should we suspend AJ Green for Mr Goodell?" "Suspend?? Are you serious?? The worst punishment will be making him go to practice, look at the game films and keep playing for the Bengals. Giving him a few games off would be like getting paroled." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleEarl Posted November 6, 2017 Report Share Posted November 6, 2017 Green might have been hoping for a suspension. That whole fight looked like a "screw this. get me outta here." fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sox Posted November 6, 2017 Report Share Posted November 6, 2017 ...or the NFL knows he's a good guy,and with this one exception,a class act.They also know Ramsey is a trash talking asshole.They probably also had some input from the officials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonBlade Posted November 6, 2017 Report Share Posted November 6, 2017 It's a fricking miracle. I totally expected a "it's the Bengals" 2 game suspension. Much like the announcers made a big play about how it was akin to hell freezing over that Burfict got a penalty for a facemask he didn't do. (the miracle there being that he didn't play like a thug apparently, even though he rarely does) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kriZENry Posted November 6, 2017 Report Share Posted November 6, 2017 1 hour ago, SF2 said: I can imagine the discussion: "So how many games should we suspend AJ Green for Mr Goodell?" "Suspend?? Are you serious?? The worst punishment will be making him go to practice, look at the game films and keep playing for the Bengals. Giving him a few games off would be like getting paroled." +1 and agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalBuck Posted November 6, 2017 Report Share Posted November 6, 2017 17 minutes ago, Sox said: ...or the NFL knows he's a good guy,and with this one exception,a class act.They also know Ramsey is a trash talking asshole.They probably also had some input from the officials. This... AJ is one of the NFL's poster boys for the good guys in the league. I think the refs should be suspended because they saw the bullshit going on and while they warned the players they should thrown a flag on that piece of shit Ramsey for any one of his cheap shots after the play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalFanInTO Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 I was actually glad to see AJ go nuts. Showed some fire. Fuck Ramsey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marlon23 Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 Could you imagine if Burfict did this lol, he would have been gone out of the NFL. LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marlon23 Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 19 minutes ago, BengalFanInTO said: I was actually glad to see AJ go nuts. Showed some fire. Fuck Ramsey. I know it is nice to see him really passionate. The thing with him was he took off his helmet gloves and told the other guy to bring it, he was willing to throw down he was saying my career ends here. lol.. love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marlon23 Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 2 hours ago, SF2 said: I can imagine the discussion: "So how many games should we suspend AJ Green for Mr Goodell?" "Suspend?? Are you serious?? The worst punishment will be making him go to practice, look at the game films and keep playing for the Bengals. Giving him a few games off would be like getting paroled." Why is it if I put someone in a head lock in the street and throw punches I get arrested but football players do not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo Montoya Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 Ramsey instigated the events yesterday and the ref stated after the game that was why he was also ejected. You don't have to punch or fight to get thrown out. I am not surprised AJ wasn't suspended. He was already punished with the ejection and will certainly be fined as well. Plus he has no record of discipline from the league. It's actually refreshing that Ramsey didn't get away with baiting AJ since normally only the guy who retaliates gets in trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sox Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 2 hours ago, Marlon23 said: Why is it if I put someone in a head lock in the street and throw punches I get arrested but football players do not? The same reason boxers don't get charged with assault.Good freaking God... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooky Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 11 hours ago, Marlon23 said: Why is it if I put someone in a head lock in the street and throw punches I get arrested but football players do not? Dumb. What's next? Why don't boxers or hockey players get arrested? Edit: Didn't see Sox's comment. But I'm still leaving this here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooky Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 9 hours ago, Inigo Montoya said: Ramsey instigated the events yesterday and the ref stated after the game that was why he was also ejected. You don't have to punch or fight to get thrown out. I am not surprised AJ wasn't suspended. He was already punished with the ejection and will certainly be fined as well. Plus he has no record of discipline from the league. It's actually refreshing that Ramsey didn't get away with baiting AJ since normally only the guy who retaliates gets in trouble. Great post. AJ was walking away after the play. How many players would've just kept walking after being shoved down from behind? That's how most of the Jason Statham fights start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marlon23 Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 12 hours ago, Sox said: The same reason boxers don't get charged with assault.Good freaking God... So it is consent for a choke hold to be administered in a football game? I understand the consent in boxing, the rules of boxer specifically state punches will be thrown, but the rule book in the NFL states nothing about the NFL ruling a choke hold to be administered during any activity for football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhfinks Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 First Offense - he gets a fine - better than i expected! Move one! Dilly dilly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marlon23 Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 3 hours ago, Hooky said: Dumb. What's next? Why don't boxers or hockey players get arrested? Edit: Didn't see Sox's comment. But I'm still leaving this here. Not dumb at all There is no sound logic, Boxing and UFC are totally different sports than football. Different Sanctions. The law is clear: If you hit another person or spit in his face, you can be arrested for assault and battery. And if you really hurt someone, or if your spit is infected with a disease (think AIDS), you could go to prison. The exception to this is equally clear: If you're an athlete and you hit, or spit at, another athlete during a football, basketball, baseball or hockey game, you have violated the law -- but you won't be arrested. Instead, your sports league will carry out any punishment, and who knows whether that will deter you from doing it again. You won't find this exception in law books or state statutes. But you will find it in the way police enforce the law. Exhibit No. 1: New York City cops were among the many witnesses who saw New York Knicks and Denver Nuggets fighting the other night at Madison Square Garden. An officer has the authority to arrest anyone who commits a felony in his or her presence. Off the court and in the general public, big, strong men who throw punches that can result in broken eye sockets are committing felonies. Yet no one was arrested and who knows if anyone even considered that. Had the fight occurred on the sidewalk outside Madison Square Garden, you probably would have seen people escorted away in handcuffs. Is this legal? On the court, apparently it is. AP Photo/Frank Franklin II Exhibit No. 2: College football players from Miami and Florida International brawl. One player swung his helmet; another stomped on an opposing player. Suspended players and university administrators issue apologies and "zero-tolerance" policies are imposed to deter future fights. Yet no one was arrested and who knows if anyone considered that. Why is that? Why are there different standards for conduct on the field of play than off it? Perhaps we don't care. But there are times when we do care, and those times are defined by the "oh, my god" standard. The "oh, my god" standard applies when a fight spreads to the stands and fans are in danger or become participants, like what happened during the Pacers-Pistons brawl; or when a hockey player smashes another player from behind, like Todd Bertuzzi did to Steve Moore in 2004. In both cases, criminal charges were filed against athletes involved. The question is where should the line be drawn? Have we become so desensitized to violence in real life and what is on television that we cannot tell the difference between assists and assaults? Have we come to accept violence as part of sport in the way Romans and gladiators did? Maybe, in this age of massive amounts of televised sports, we have come to redefine what we expect from games. Perhaps we've shown we want a little more bang for our buck than the game. Roger Cossack is ESPN's legal analyst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooky Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 22 minutes ago, Marlon23 said: So it is consent for a choke hold to be administered in a football game? I understand the consent in boxing, the rules of boxer specifically state punches will be thrown, but the rule book in the NFL states nothing about the NFL ruling a choke hold to be administered during any activity for football. Tackling somebody is assault also. Should they be arrested every play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sox Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 19 minutes ago, Marlon23 said: So it is consent for a choke hold to be administered in a football game? I understand the consent in boxing, the rules of boxer specifically state punches will be thrown, but the rule book in the NFL states nothing about the NFL ruling a choke hold to be administered during any activity for football. When a hockey player takes exception to an over enthusiastic check and starts pounding the opposing player,guess what?Nobody arrests him.A major league pitcher nails a hitter in the ribs to retaliate for the home run the previous guy hit,hitter charges the mound and pounds the pitcher as a bench clearing brawl starts.Nobody is arrested.Stop equating actual real life with professional sports events. Now if A.J. Green had grabbed YOU by the neck,put you in a headlock,body slammed you into the ground and started punching you on the street,in front of witnesses,then yes,he would be arrested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marlon23 Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 1 hour ago, Hooky said: Tackling somebody is assault also. Should they be arrested every play? That is sanctioned by the Rules of the NFL, the Choke Hold is not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marlon23 Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 1 hour ago, Sox said: When a hockey player takes exception to an over enthusiastic check and starts pounding the opposing player,guess what?Nobody arrests him.A major league pitcher nails a hitter in the ribs to retaliate for the home run the previous guy hit,hitter charges the mound and pounds the pitcher as a bench clearing brawl starts.Nobody is arrested.Stop equating actual real life with professional sports events. Now if A.J. Green had grabbed YOU by the neck,put you in a headlock,body slammed you into the ground and started punching you on the street,in front of witnesses,then yes,he would be arrested. Stop equating actual real life with professional sports events. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omgdrdoom Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 17 minutes ago, Marlon23 said: Stop equating actual real life with professional sports events. lol Says the guy asking why he's punished for doing something in actual real life that A.J. Green did at a professional sports event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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