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7 hours ago, snarkster said:

 

If there is a QB you really like available at the fifth pick (and no suitable OL worth picking there), would you consider taking him and dealing Dalton for an LT, then letting the first rounder compete with McWebb for the starting spot?  You have to add a viable LT before mini camps start.  If there's not a LT in the Draft, maybe that's an option.

 

No way.  Dalton is not the problem and a hole at QB is a lot harder to fill than a hole at LT.  That is why QBs are paid so much more than LTs.

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I think I would definitely go with Nelson if he is there with our early first pick. I'm reading he's probably the safest pick. Compared to Logan Mankins by one scout. Who knows he may even be able to convert to center. Maybe too tall for center? Idk how much height matters. By convert, I mean after a few years.

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So refreshing.

 

Isn't it awesome sitting here in mid-November discussing whether we'd rather have Minkah Fitzpatrick, Lamar Jackson, or Quenton Nelson instead of something dumb like what our playoff implications will be once we beat the Broncos this weekend?

 

THE BENGALS ARE BACK BAYBAAYYY!!!!!!!!!!

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41 minutes ago, schotzee said:

Lol. Is Fitzpatrick definitely coming out?

I'd imagine so. I don't know why I even think about a pick like that though, we'll just end up taking an injured WR or CB anyway.

 

Last offseason at one point I said I'd be OK with basically any projected 1st rounder at #9 not named John Ross and look what happened, maybe I should spend the next few months talking about how terrible Minkah Fitzpatrick will translate to the NFL. :ph34r:

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14 hours ago, omgdrdoom said:

So refreshing.

 

Isn't it awesome sitting here in mid-November discussing whether we'd rather have Minkah Fitzpatrick, Lamar Jackson, or Quenton Nelson instead of something dumb like what our playoff implications will be once we beat the Broncos this weekend?

 

THE BENGALS ARE BACK BAYBAAYYY!!!!!!!!!!

 

Let's not get carried away, we still have to win a couple of garbage games at the end of the season to drive us down to around pick 11-13.  Then lose to Baltimore's 2nd string.

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8 hours ago, T-Dub said:

 

Let's not get carried away, we still have to win a couple of garbage games at the end of the season to drive us down to around pick 11-13.  Then lose to Baltimore's 2nd string.

That's true I forgot about that part. Honestly, I'm not really rooting for more wins at this point, I'd rather have the higher draft picks. The team might actually be forced to pick a once a decade type of prospect like Fitzpatrick if we end up in the top 5. I'm afraid of another TE or something if we drop to the mid round. Maybe we'll get lucky and draft another injured CB.

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50 minutes ago, omgdrdoom said:

That's true I forgot about that part. Honestly, I'm not really rooting for more wins at this point, I'd rather have the higher draft picks. The team might actually be forced to pick a once a decade type of prospect like Fitzpatrick if we end up in the top 5. I'm afraid of another TE or something if we drop to the mid round. Maybe we'll get lucky and draft another injured CB.

Yep.  I'm down with losing out at this point.

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On 11/16/2017 at 12:20 AM, snarkster said:

If there is a QB you really like available at the fifth pick (and no suitable OL worth picking there), would you consider taking him and dealing Dalton for an LT, then letting the first rounder compete with McWebb for the starting spot?  You have to add a viable LT before mini camps start.  If there's not a LT in the Draft, maybe that's an option.

There isn't a QB in the league that would perform well behind this offensive offensive line.   It isn't hard to gameplan against a team that CAN'T run the ball and isn't very good at pass blocking.  Given these facts Dalton did pretty well last weekend against the Titans.  20-35-265-2TDs-0 Ints.  The fumbled sucked but that is very rare for him.   Rating of 100 for that game on the road. 

 

How did Dak Prescott do without  Elliot running the ball and Left Tackle Tyron Smith out last week?  They scored 7 points.

 

Dalton doesn't have that much talent around him at all.  Eifert is out. Tyler Boyd (54 catches as a rookie)  is out.  Ross can't get on the field.  Without those players, 31 year old LaFell is easier to cover so that leaves us AJ Green as his only legitimate weapon in truth.  It is so bad, AJ is playing more and more slot receiver just so we can get the ball in his hands.  Teams are dropping back into coverage because we cant run the ball so there is NO space for AJ downfield.   Andy Dalton isn't even close to a major concern with this current team.  If Dalton was on the Jaguars, they would be a legitimate Superbowl contender. 

 

If we end up in a spot where we can choose one of the top tier QBs, teams will come running desperate to swap picks.  The following teams DESPERATELY need a QB:

 

Arizona, Chicago, Cleveland, Buffalo?(guess we will find out what Peterman can do), Denver, Jacksonville, NY Jets.   

Possible need at San Fran.

You also have the Chargers?, Saints, Giants, Pittspuke? and Patriots with old or older dudes.  

 

 

 

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Bengals 20, Broncos 17

 

Bengals fall from #5 to #8 in the 2018 draft:

 

2018 Draft Order (through 11/20/2017)

1: CLE (0-10) 0.000
2: SFF (1-9) 0.100
3: NYG (2-8) 0.200
4: DEN (3-7) 0.300 SoS=0.475
5: IND (3-7) 0.300 SoS=0.484
6: CHI (3-7) 0.300 SoS=0.560
7: LAC (4-6) 0.400 SoS=0.463
8: CIN (4-6) 0.400 SoS=0.475 (-3 spots)
9: OAK (4-6) 0.400 SoS=0.488
10: ARI (4-6) 0.400 SoS=0.494
11: CLE (from HOU (4-6) 0.400 0.SoS=509) (-3 spots)
12: NYJ (4-6) 0.400 SoS=0.516
13: WAS (4-6) 0.400 SoS=0.522
14: MIA (4-6) 0.400 SoS=0.541
15: TBB (4-6) 0.400 SoS=0.563
16: DAL (5-5) 0.500 SoS=0.475
17: BUF (5-5) 0.500 SoS=0.503
18: GBP (5-5) 0.500 SoS=0.544
19: ATL (5-4) 0.556 SoS=0.579
20: DET (6-4) 0.600

 

Currently In Playoffs:
21: w-BAL (5-5) 0.500 (-9 spots)
22: w-TEN (6-4) 0.600 SoS=0.447
23: BUF (from d-KCC (6-4) 0.600 SoS=0.469)
24: w-SEA (6-3) 0.667
25: d-JAX (7-3) 0.700 SoS=0.434
26: d-LAR (7-3) 0.700 SoS=0.494
27: w-CAR (7-3) 0.700 SoS=0.551
28: d-PIT (8-2) 0.800 SoS=0.463 (-1 spot)
29: d-NEP (8-2) 0.800 SoS=0.497
30: d-MIN (8-2) 0.800 SoS=0.503
31: d-NOS (8-2) 0.800 SoS=0.544
32: d-PHI (9-1) 0.900

 

w-Wild Card Team
d-Division Champion

 

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Bengals 30, Current Browns 16

 

Bengals drop to #12 in the draft order:

 

2018 Draft Order (through 11/27/2017)

1: CLE (0-11) 0.000
2: SFF (1-10) 0.091
3: NYG (2-9) 0.182
4: DEN (3-8) 0.273 SoS=0.483
5: IND (3-8) 0.273 SoS=0.491
6: CHI (3-8) 0.273 SoS=0.554
7: NYJ (4-7) 0.364 SoS=0.517
8: MIA (4-7) 0.364 SoS=0.549
9: TBB (4-7) 0.364 SoS=0.563
10: CLE (from HOU (4-6) 0.400) (+1 spot)
11: LAC (5-6) 0.455 SoS=0.455
12: CIN (5-6) 0.455 SoS=0.468 (-4 spots)
13: ARI (5-6) 0.455 SoS=0.486
TIE OAK (5-6) 0.455 SoS=0.486
15: DAL (5-6) 0.455 SoS=0.489
16: WAS (5-6) 0.455 SoS=0.517
17: GBP (5-6) 0.455 SoS=0.537
18: BAL (5-5) 0.500 (+3 spots)
19: DET (6-5) 0.545 SoS=0.497
20: SEA (7-4) 0.636 SoS=0.474

 

Currently In Playoffs:

21: d-KCC (6-5) 0.545 SoS=0.480
22: w-BUF (6-5) 0.545 SoS=0.500
23: w-JAX (7-4) 0.636 SoS=0.445
24: d-TEN (7-4) 0.636 SoS=0.445
25: w-ATL (7-4) 0.636 SoS=0.557
26: d-LAR (8-3) 0.727 SoS=0.491
27: w-CAR (8-3) 0.727 SoS=0.540
28: d-NOS (8-3) 0.727 SoS=0.551
29: d-PIT (9-2) 0.818 SoS=0.457 (-1 spot)
30: d-MIN (9-2) 0.818 SoS=0.497
TIE d-NEP (9-2) 0.818 SoS=0.497
32: d-PHI (10-1) 0.909


Notes:
13/ARI-OAK and 30/MIN-NEP would require a coinflip
23/JAX selects ahead of 24/TEN on division tiebreakers

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On 11/16/2017 at 8:19 AM, omgdrdoom said:

So refreshing.

 

Isn't it awesome sitting here in mid-November discussing whether we'd rather have Minkah Fitzpatrick, Lamar Jackson, or Quenton Nelson instead of something dumb like what our playoff implications will be once we beat the Broncos this weekend?

 

THE BENGALS ARE BACK BAYBAAYYY!!!!!!!!!!

5-6 in the playoff hunt, time to shoulder the draft talk!!!

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Updating for MNF:

 

Ravens beat Texans, Bengals remain at #12

 

2018 Draft Order (through 11/28/2017):

1: CLE (0-11) 0.000
2: SFF (1-10) 0.091

3: NYG (2-9) 0.182

4: DEN (3-8) 0.273 SoS=0.483

5: IND (3-8) 0.273 SoS=0.489

6: CHI (3-8) 0.273 SoS=0.557

7: CLE (from HOU (4-7) 0.364 SoS=0.511) (+3 spots)
8: NYJ (4-7) 0.364 SoS=0.517

9: MIA (4-7) 0.364 SoS=0.551

10: TBB (4-7) 0.364 SoS=0.563
11: LAC (5-6) 0.455 SoS=0.455

12: CIN (5-6) 0.455 SoS=0.472
13: ARI (5-6) 0.455 SoS=0.483
14: OAK (5-6) 0.455 SoS=0.489

TIE DAL (5-6) 0.455 SoS=0.489

16: WAS (5-6) 0.455 SoS=0.517

17: GBP (5-6) 0.455 SoS=0.540
18: BUF (6-5) 0.545 SoS=0.500

TIE DET (6-5) 0.545 SoS=0.500

20: SEA (7-4) 0.636

 

Currently In Playoffs:

21: w-BAL (6-5) 0.545 SoS=0.460 (-3 spots)[
22: BUF (from d-KCC (6-5) 0.545 SoS=0.477)
23: w-JAX (7-4) 0.636 SoS=0.443

24: d-TEN (7-4) 0.636 SoS=0.443

25: w-ATL (7-4) 0.636 SoS=0.557

26: d-LAR (8-3) 0.727 SoS=0.489

27: w-CAR (8-3) 0.727 SoS=0.540

28: d-NOS (8-3) 0.727 SoS=0.551

29: d-PIT (9-2) 0.818 SoS=0.460
30: d-NEP (9-2) 0.818 SoS=0.494

31: d-MIN (9-2) 0.818 SoS=0.500
32: d-PHI (10-1) 0.909

 

Notes:

14/OAK-DAL and 18/BUF-DET would require a coinflip

23/JAX selects ahead of 24/TEN on division tiebreakers

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Gotta say it ... When I look at the draft order Amish posted above I see another year of Marvin, a second tier draft pick that will be meh at best.

 

Then I look at the Browns.  They fire Hue, hire Vance Joseph, get McCarron as a free agent, trade down out of the first draft slot for a slightly lower first and an extra high pick (2nd?) having something like 7 picks in the first two rounds to really load up and add to Garrett and Gordon (if he can stay off the dope) and a couple others and become more of a threat.  While the Bengals remain the same Marvengals with Mediocre Marv at the helm.  You don't improve by staying the same.  You just get older.  The Bengals are mired in the mud of mediocrity.

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On 12/2/2017 at 1:38 PM, High School Harry said:

Gotta say it ... When I look at the draft order Amish posted above I see another year of Marvin, a second tier draft pick that will be meh at best.

 

Then I look at the Browns.  They fire Hue, hire Vance Joseph, get McCarron as a free agent, trade down out of the first draft slot for a slightly lower first and an extra high pick (2nd?) having something like 7 picks in the first two rounds to really load up and add to Garrett and Gordon (if he can stay off the dope) and a couple others and become more of a threat.  While the Bengals remain the same Marvengals with Mediocre Marv at the helm.  You don't improve by staying the same.  You just get older.  The Bengals are mired in the mud of mediocrity.

 

Man, I used to think that way every year. "Look at the Browns, all of those draft picks, free agents, coaching moves, etc. are decent moves and going to get them somewhere."

 

Then they always end up being the Browns. It's tough for me to assume they're going to draft good players and have the free agent acquisitions work out for them nowadays. Like the Bengals in certain areas, the Browns have to prove to me that they're going to finally turn the corner before I start looking at them positively again.

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Updating for MNF Loss to the Terrible Smell.

 

Bengals climb from #12 to #9 with the loss.

 

2018 Draft Order (through 12/7/2017):
1: CLE (0-12) (no change)
2: NYG (2-10) SoS=0.505
3: SFF (2-10) SoS=0.526
4: DEN (3-9) SoS=0.484
5: IND (3-9) SoS=0.495
6: CHI (3-9) SoS=0.552
7: CLE (from HOU (4-8) SoS=0.521) (no change)
8: TBB (4-8) SoS=0.552
9: CIN (5-7) SoS=0.474 (+3 spots)
10: ARI (5-7) SoS=0.490
11: NYJ (5-7) SoS=0.516
12: WAS (5-7) SoS=0.521
13: MIA (5-7) SoS=0.552
14: LAC (6-6) SoS=0.453
15: DAL (6-6) SoS=0.479
16: OAK (6-6) SoS=0.490
17: DET (6-6) SoS=0.495
18: BUF (6-6) SoS=0.505
19: GBP (6-6) SoS=0.531
20: ATL (7-5)

 

Currently In Playoffs:
21: BUF (from d-KCC (6-6))
22: w-BAL (7-5) (-1 spot)
23: w-JAX (8-4) SoS=0.453
24: d-TEN (8-4) SoS=0.453
25: w-SEA (8-4) SoS=0.474
26: w-CAR (8-4) SoS=0.536
27: d-LAR (9-3) SoS=0.495
28: d-NOS (9-3) SoS=0.536
29: d-PHI (10-2) SoS=0.427
30: d-PIT (10-2) SoS=0.458 (-1 spot)
31: d-MIN (10-2) SoS=0.490
32: d-NEP (10-2) SoS=0.495

 

Notes:
d- = division leader
w- = wildcard
23/JAX selects ahead of 24/TEN on division tiebreakers

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On 12/2/2017 at 1:38 PM, High School Harry said:

Gotta say it ... When I look at the draft order Amish posted above I see another year of Marvin, a second tier draft pick that will be meh at best.

 

Then I look at the Browns.  They fire Hue, hire Vance Joseph, get McCarron as a free agent, trade down out of the first draft slot for a slightly lower first and an extra high pick (2nd?) having something like 7 picks in the first two rounds to really load up and add to Garrett and Gordon (if he can stay off the dope) and a couple others and become more of a threat.  While the Bengals remain the same Marvengals with Mediocre Marv at the helm.  You don't improve by staying the same.  You just get older.  The Bengals are mired in the mud of mediocrity.

Lol hiring Vance Joseph makes you fear the Browns? Hell, I’m just hoping he’s not the Bengals coach next year. I expect that he will be, but it’s vomit-inducing. He’s been horrendous this season. That team is out coached every single week. 

 

Hes is a perfect Mike Brown hire. 

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  • 2 weeks later...

Updated through Week 15 (change is from last update):

 

Draft Order as of 12/21/2017:

1: CLE (0-14) (no change)
2: NYG (2-12)
3: IND (3-11)
4: CLE (from HOU (4-10) SoS=0.504) (+3 spots)
5: SFF (4-10) SoS=0.513
6: CHI (4-10) SoS=0.558
7: TBB (4-10) SoS=0.563
8: CIN (5-9) SoS=0.473 (+1 spot)
9: DEN (5-9) SoS=0.482
10: NYJ (5-9) SoS=0.531
11: ARI (6-8) SoS=0.487
12: OAK (6-8) SoS=0.509
13: WAS (6-8) SoS=0.531
14: MIA (6-8) SoS=0.549
15: LAC (7-7) SoS=0.473
16: GBP (7-7) SoS=0.531
17: BAL (8-6) SoS=0.442 (+5 spots)
18: DET (8-6) SoS=0.487
19: SEA (8-6) SoS=0.487
20: DAL (8-6) SoS=0.491

 

Currently In Playoffs:

21: w-TEN (8-6) SoS=0.438
22: BUF (from d-KCC (8-6) SoS=0.487)
23: w-BUF (8-6) SoS=0.496
24: w-ATL (9-5)
25: d-JAX (10-4) SOS=0.420
26: d-LAR (10-4) SOS=0.491
27: w-CAR (10-4) SOS=0.545
28: d-NOS (10-4) SoS=0.545
29: d-PIT (11-3) SOS=0.445 (+1 spot)
30: d-MIN (11-3) SoS=0.496
31: d-NEP (11-3) SoS=0.500
32: d-PHI (12-2)

 

Notes:

d=division leader

w=wildcard team

18/19: SEA picks ahead of DET on conference tiebreakers
27/28: CAR picks ahead of NOS on division tiebreakers
 

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