AmishBengalFan Posted December 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 CLE pick #1 will be in the 1-2 range CLE pick #2 (from HOU) will be in the 2-14 range CIN pick will be in the 3-16 range BAL pick will be in the 11-32 range PIT pick will be in the 21-32 range Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonBlade Posted December 21, 2017 Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 We really need to tank then. Early teens players are much of muchness, might as well go big for the chance to grab a genuine LT solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluhartz Posted December 21, 2017 Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 6 minutes ago, VonBlade said: We really need to tank then. Early teens players are much of muchness, might as well go big for the chance to grab a genuine LT solution. um.. I kinda think they are... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dub Posted December 21, 2017 Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 12 minutes ago, fluhartz said: um.. I kinda think they are... Yeah but let's pretend it's on purpose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredtoast Posted December 21, 2017 Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 8 minutes ago, AmishBengalFan said: CLE pick #1 will be in the 1-2 range CLE pick #2 (from HOU) will be in the 2-14 range CIN pick will be in the 3-16 range BAL pick will be in the 11-32 range PIT pick will be in the 21-32 range If Cleveland does not trade any picks this year Hue will have had the following number of picks in just three drafts 1st round.....6 (including two #1's and a #2) 2nd.............5 3rd..............5 4th..............7 5th..............7 That is 30 picks in the first 5 pounds, or the equivalent of six years worth of picks, in just three drafts. And the Browns front office spent some cash on free agents. I know that Zeitler was not the only O-lineman they signed. Hue has no excuse for not winning next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluhartz Posted December 21, 2017 Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 Just now, T-Dub said: Yeah let's pretend it's on purpose ha ha.. I in no way meant on purpose.. but yea.. sounds good... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky151 Posted December 22, 2017 Report Share Posted December 22, 2017 5 hours ago, fredtoast said: If Cleveland does not trade any picks this year Hue will have had the following number of picks in just three drafts 1st round.....6 (including two #1's and a #2) 2nd.............5 3rd..............5 4th..............7 5th..............7 That is 30 picks in the first 5 pounds, or the equivalent of six years worth of picks, in just three drafts. And the Browns front office spent some cash on free agents. I know that Zeitler was not the only O-lineman they signed. Hue has no excuse for not winning next year. Sure he does. They'll probably finally take a top rookie QB with their first pick so he'll be starting a rookie again next year. They sure aren't going to start Kizer again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmishBengalFan Posted December 26, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2017 Bengals 26, Lion 17 Bengals fall from #8 to #10 in the draft Draft Order as of 12/26/2017: 1: CLE (0-15) 0.000 (no change) 2: NYG (2-13) 0.133 3: IND (3-12) 0.2004: CLE (from HOU (4-11) 0.267 SoS=0.508) (no change) 5: TBB (4-11) 0.267 SoS=0.558 6: DEN (5-10) 0.333 SoS=0.483 7: NYJ (5-10) 0.333 SoS=0.521 8: SFF (5-10) 0.333 SoS=0.521 9: CHI (5-10) 0.333 SoS=0.55810: CIN (6-9) 0.400 SoS=0.467 (-2 spots) 11: OAK (6-9) 0.400 SoS=0.508 12: MIA (6-9) 0.400 SoS=0.542 13: ARI (7-8) 0.467 SoS=0.488 14: WAS (7-8) 0.467 SoS=0.538 15: GBP (7-8) 0.467 SoS=0.538 16: LAC (8-7) 0.533 SoS=0.463 17: BUF (8-7) 0.533 SoS=0.492 18: DET (8-7) 0.533 SoS=0.496 19: DAL (8-7) 0.533 SoS=0.500 20: SEA (9-6) 0.600 Playoff Teams: 21: w-TEN (8-7) 0.53322: w-BAL (9-6) 0.600 SoS=0.438 (-5 spots) 23: BUF (from d-KCC (9-6) 0.600 SoS=0.479) 24: w-ATL (9-6) 0.600 SoS=0.550 25: d-JAX (10-5) 0.667 26: d-LAR (11-4) 0.733 SoS=0.500 27: w-CAR (11-4) 0.733 SoS=0.538 28: d-NOS (11-4) 0.733 SoS=0.53829: d-PIT (12-3) 0.800 SoS=0.450 (no change) 30: d-NEP (12-3) 0.800 SoS=0.488 31: d-MIN (12-3) 0.800 SoS=0.500 32: d-PHI (13-2) 0.867 Notes: d=division leader w=wildcard team 7/8: NYJ/SFF coinflip to determine order 14/15: WAS picks ahead of GBP on conference tiebreakers 27/28: CAR picks ahead of NOS on division tiebreakers CLE pick #1 will be #1 overall (was 1-2 range)CLE pick #2 (from HOU) will be in the 3-9 range (was 2-14)CIN pick will be in the 6-15 range (was 3-16)BAL pick will be in the 16-32 range (was 11-32)PIT pick will be in the 25-32 range (was 21-32) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigris Posted January 1, 2018 Report Share Posted January 1, 2018 So, where do we end up picking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted January 1, 2018 Report Share Posted January 1, 2018 1 minute ago, Tigris said: So, where do we end up picking? 12 according to Joe Goodberry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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|Bunghole| Posted January 1, 2018 Report Share Posted January 1, 2018 So who do we take at 12? I would hope that it would be a tackle or a linebacker. We don't need a receiver there, especially now that Boyd is healthy and starting to produce, Lafell has been above average, we have AJ Green, then we have Core, Malone and Ross waiting in the wings. We need to get Erickson off the field as a wideout other than for a few tricky type plays. We're probably set at RB, though I'd take another in the later rounds. We need linebackers and offensive linemen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted January 1, 2018 Report Share Posted January 1, 2018 27 minutes ago, Bunghole said: So who do we take at 12? I would hope that it would be a tackle or a linebacker. We don't need a receiver there, especially now that Boyd is healthy and starting to produce, Lafell has been above average, we have AJ Green, then we have Core, Malone and Ross waiting in the wings. We need to get Erickson off the field as a wideout other than for a few tricky type plays. We're probably set at RB, though I'd take another in the later rounds. We need linebackers and offensive linemen. Well, it's an even numbered year, that means a CB. ? Best player available. At Left Tackle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigris Posted January 1, 2018 Report Share Posted January 1, 2018 ^ McGlitchney, Nelson, Price or if we just completely decide not to draft OL, draft an entire offense in.... BAKER MAYFIELD!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmishBengalFan Posted January 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2018 And here's the final draft order... at least for the 20 non-playoff teams: 1: CLE (0-16) (no change) 2: NYG (3-13) 3: IND (4-12) SoS=0.4804: CLE (from HOU (4-12) SoS=0.516) (no change) 5: DEN (5-11) SoS=0.492 6: NYJ (5-11) SoS=0.520 7: TBB (5-11) SoS=0.555 8: CHI (5-11) SoS=0.559 9/10: SFF (6-10) SoS=0.512 9/10: OAK (6-10) SoS=0.512 11: MIA (6-10) SoS=0.54312: CIN (7-9) SoS=0.465 (-2 spots) 13: WAS (7-9) SoS=0.539 14: GBP (7-9) SoS=0.539 15: ARI (8-8)16: BAL (9-7) SoS=0.441 (+6 spots) 17: LAC (9-7) SoS=0.457 18: SEA (9-7) SoS=0.563 19: DAL (9-7) SoS=0.496 20: DET (9-7) SoS=0.496 Notes: 9/10: SFF and OAK will be decided by a coin-flip 13/14: WAS pick ahead of GBP on Conference Tiebreak (best win percentage in common games.) 19/20: DAL pick ahead of DET on Conference Tiebreak (best win percentage in conference games.) Picks 21-32 will be based on the order that teams exit the playoffs, but if they were ranked right now on Win Pct and SoS they would be: 21: TEN (9-7) SoS=0.434 22: BUF (9-7) SoS=0.492 23: JAX (10-6) SoS=0.434 24: BUF (from KCC (10-6) SoS=0.477) 25: ATL (10-6) SoS=0.543 26: LAR (11-5) SoS=0.504 27: NOS (11-5) SoS=0.535 28: CAR (11-5) SoS=0.53929: PIT (13-3) SoS=0.453 (no change) 30: PHI (13-3) SoS=0.461 31: NEP (13-3) SoS=0.484 32: MIN (13-3) SoS=0.492 The 4 teams with a bye (PIT/PHI/NEP/MIN) cannot lose in the Wild Card round, so they will pick in the 25-32 range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turningpoint Posted January 1, 2018 Report Share Posted January 1, 2018 1 hour ago, Jason said: 12 according to Joe Goodberry. Perfect position to draft another bust Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigris Posted January 1, 2018 Report Share Posted January 1, 2018 I think the only positions we absolutely will not even entertain @ 12 are RB, WR, S, and DT. I want to write QB but ya never know with a possible new HC in town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Bunghole| Posted January 1, 2018 Report Share Posted January 1, 2018 18 minutes ago, Tigris said: I think the only positions we absolutely will not even entertain @ 12 are RB, WR, S, and DT. I want to write QB but ya never know with a possible new HC in town. Surely we wouldn't take another CB in the first round, would we? We are more solid in that group than in the o-line or LB corps. I could maybe see another DE there. I don't really watch college football so I don't know what players are whom, but I can clearly see what the Bengals need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigris Posted January 1, 2018 Report Share Posted January 1, 2018 9 minutes ago, Bunghole said: Surely we wouldn't take another CB in the first round, would we? We are more solid in that group than in the o-line or LB corps. I could maybe see another DE there. I don't really watch college football so I don't know what players are whom, but I can clearly see what the Bengals need. Pacman's wheels have to fall off sometime and I think his contract can be voided without taking a big cap hit. Makes me think the Bengals prepared for a possible departure. Also, Dennard is a FA after next season. Who do you keep with Kirkpatrick? Dennard or Jackson? Dennard is going to get paid somewhere and if it's here, William Jackson is getting mega bucks from somewhere else. I think if a guy they believe in is there, Pacman gets the axe, they draft the corner, and that corner registers 30 defensive plays in 2018. It's what we do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigris Posted January 1, 2018 Report Share Posted January 1, 2018 Go to YouTube and watch Bradley Chubb (think that's his name) versus FSU. Whoa! Dude was an animal. Then I watched Chubb versus someone else and didn't come away with nearly the same evaluation as before. Maybe Louisville or Miss State? I've watched a lot of different guys lately and can't remember. I have to see more but he's a DE that definitely looks the part of a first round pick. I think he may have a little Burfict in him. Looks like he chatters a lot and I saw a couple plays where he really laid into the guy when it wasn't necessary. Kinda rolled over him on a QB hit. The NFL is so hellbent on stopping that stuff, it may be an issue at the next level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted January 1, 2018 Report Share Posted January 1, 2018 1 minute ago, Tigris said: Go to YouTube and watch Bradley Chubb (think that's his name) versus FSU. Whoa! Dude was an animal. Then I watched Chubb versus someone else and didn't come away with nearly the same evaluation as before. Maybe Louisville or Miss State? I've watched a lot of different guys lately and can't remember. I have to see more but he's a DE that definitely looks the part of a first round pick. I think he may have a little Burfict in him. Looks like he chatters a lot and I saw a couple plays where he really laid into the guy when it wasn't necessary. Kinda rolled over him on a QB hit. The NFL is so hellbent on stopping that stuff, it may be an issue at the next level. Chubb will be long gone by the time we pick. Unless he gets arrested between now and then. I live in NC, I'll see what I can do about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigris Posted January 1, 2018 Report Share Posted January 1, 2018 I could have swore Dunlap and MJ were both FAs after this season but it must be after 2018 because their names aren't coming up for 2017 FAs. Willis, Lawson, Dunlap, and a first round talent are a pretty dang good four man rotation to have, especially with our ends.... I gotta stop myself dead in my tracks there. I forgot about Chris Smith. It would take an amazing evaluation of a prospect and a top notch grade to bring in a DE with our current group. Well, you'd think, but we did draft Chris Perry and I'll never forget how blown my mind was when that happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigris Posted January 1, 2018 Report Share Posted January 1, 2018 He will probably be gone, you're right. If the rest of his games are anything like that FSU game, he should probably go to CLE #1. I don't think I've seen a one man wrecking crew like that ever. But again, I've only watched two games worth. You guys extensively scout anyone I should check out? I love the time leading up to the draft. Only issue is we are so wide open with where we need help, it's hard to narrow down the position. I watched a bit of the Price kid and I love the guy. He's exactly what this team needs. We underestimated letting our leader go to LAR and we need someone to take that spot. Price makes so much sense that we won't do it. Just to be clear, I don't care about the buckeyes. Dude is a legit leader and we need it so bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigris Posted January 1, 2018 Report Share Posted January 1, 2018 I watched a little of that roquan smith or something from GA (the LB). Wasn't as impressed as I was with the Alabama rocket LB last year that went to SF. But I've definitely not watched enough to hype or hate on the guy. Just didn't care for the super small sample size I did watch. Looked like he got tangled up in traffic too much. Excited to watch him tomorrow though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted January 1, 2018 Report Share Posted January 1, 2018 4 minutes ago, Tigris said: He will probably be gone, you're right. If the rest of his games are anything like that FSU game, he should probably go to CLE #1. I don't think I've seen a one man wrecking crew like that ever. But again, I've only watched two games worth. You guys extensively scout anyone I should check out? I love the time leading up to the draft. Only issue is we are so wide open with where we need help, it's hard to narrow down the position. I watched a bit of the Price kid and I love the guy. He's exactly what this team needs. We underestimated letting our leader go to LAR and we need someone to take that spot. Price makes so much sense that we won't do it. Just to be clear, I don't care about the buckeyes. Dude is a legit leader and we need it so bad. I don't even want to think about Garrett and Chubb on the same line. Damn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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