T-Dub Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 58 minutes ago, LostInDaJungle said: Stinks of us making a bad draft choice on an injured player, and having a crap medical staff. Heck, every player should be trying to hide his injury before draft day, that's why you have team doctors look them over. How many teams have a #1 RB "surprise" them by having season ending surgery out of the blue? That Jeremy Hill conned us into taking him knowing he'd need surgery 5 years later! If it's a choice between the Bengals being incompetent and John Ross intentionally "conning" the Bengals into drafting him and thinking he's healthy, Occam's razor points to the Bengals. Have to agree, not sure why the team would look to a 22 year old player with millions of dollars worth of salary in the balance for a candid medical evaluation. It's called due diligence. It's the team's responsibility to look past his 40 time. Ross didn't draft himself 9th overall. Trying to throw him under the bus now that the season is all but over is just another example of the lack of accountability that defines this franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Montana Bengal| Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 I'm just curious if he violates anything by not disclosing an injury. Not talking pre-draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleEarl Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 I find it hard to believe that every team would be allowed to do a medical exam on a potential draftee. Doesn't the NFL do this for the entire league? As far as Ross himself....He does bear some responsibility. We're talking about a guy who appears to be a poor practice player, may have trouble with the playbook, and hides injuries. Sounds like a spoiled kid. He needs to grow up. The NFL is for men, not boys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostInDaJungle Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 26 minutes ago, UncleEarl said: I find it hard to believe that every team would be allowed to do a medical exam on a potential draftee. Doesn't the NFL do this for the entire league? More like every team has the right to ask. It's part of the pre-draft workouts that teams do. You can also have your medical staff review the records for any pick without subjecting any player to a one-on-one exam. Doctors don't generally lie on their medical reports. They would access to X-rays, etc... So a player might refuse to allow a team doctor or specialist to evaluate them when they come in for a pre-draft workout, but that is very rare and would be a big red flag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredtoast Posted December 9, 2017 Report Share Posted December 9, 2017 17 hours ago, LostInDaJungle said: More like every team has the right to ask. It's part of the pre-draft workouts that teams do. You can also have your medical staff review the records for any pick without subjecting any player to a one-on-one exam. Doctors don't generally lie on their medical reports. They would access to X-rays, etc... So a player might refuse to allow a team doctor or specialist to evaluate them when they come in for a pre-draft workout, but that is very rare and would be a big red flag. I have read that sometimes the medical examinations at the combine are more importrant to teams than the workouts. A player that has an injury issue will be poked and prodded and examined by every team interested in him. All of these teams will demand medical records like x-rays and scans of the injury. The fact is that injuries are hard to predict. I think Anthony Munoz had three knee surgeies in college while Chris Perry never had a major injury until he got in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted December 9, 2017 Report Share Posted December 9, 2017 The NFL must be laughing at us. All of our first picks lately have been disasters. That is one reason why free agents don’t want to sign with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredtoast Posted December 11, 2017 Report Share Posted December 11, 2017 On 12/9/2017 at 10:16 AM, Rick said: The NFL must be laughing at us. All of our first picks lately have been disasters. That is one reason why free agents don’t want to sign with us. WTF? Jackson Dennard Eifert Kirkpatrick Zeitler Green All good picks. Plus, the only reason we don't sign top free agents is because we won't offer them the money they want. It is not like we are offering big contracts and free agents are turning them down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dub Posted December 11, 2017 Report Share Posted December 11, 2017 On 12/9/2017 at 10:16 AM, Rick said: The NFL must be laughing at us. All of our first picks lately have been disasters. That is one reason why free agents don’t want to sign with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|SF2| Posted December 11, 2017 Report Share Posted December 11, 2017 On 12/9/2017 at 10:12 AM, fredtoast said: I have read that sometimes the medical examinations at the combine are more importrant to teams than the workouts. A player that has an injury issue will be poked and prodded and examined by every team interested in him. All of these teams will demand medical records like x-rays and scans of the injury. The fact is that injuries are hard to predict. I think Anthony Munoz had three knee surgeies in college while Chris Perry never had a major injury until he got in the NFL. I think this is a better indicator of how well a guy will play in the pros given he has the athletic ability. Not saying Ross had character issues but you better be sure when picking single digits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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