omgdrdoom Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 1 minute ago, schotzee said: @omgdrdoom Tobin? You want him gone or what? Kinnnnddaa, I just think he is super overrated by a lot of fans for hitting on a few straight good drafts. Did it take a genius to draft A.J. Green or Julio? Either way you get a superstar. Tobin wasn't even the pro-Dalton guy in the room back in 2011, I remember word was Jay Gruden petitioned for the team to take Andy over Krapernick or Mallett (both Mike Brown guys). Boling was the only guy I give Tobin credit for there and I'm not 100% sure he was behind that pick. 2010 and 2012 were good so I give him kudos for those years. 2013 would be better if Eifert wasn't broken in half every season. 2014 and 2015 were such terrible drafts and we're really feeling that right now. Turn just 1 or 2 of those misses into hits and you're heading in the right direction. Tell Paul Alexander to fuck off and get off the god damn table and you probably win another game or three these past couple of seasons. It's not necessarily that I want Tobin gone but maybe someone else brought in to work with him or something. I don't know. It's not like the Brown family is going to hire anyone outside of their immediate family or friend circle anyway so I guess it probably wouldn't matter. But yeah, not saying he's Cleveland-level of scouting, he's just not amazing yet some fans hype him up as an untouchable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooky Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 37 minutes ago, omgdrdoom said: From a different, older thread but didn't want to resurrect it just to shit on Fred, buuuutttttttt........ There was another post by Fred about how stupid I was and about betting signatures (That I don't use or see anyway.) that I was wrong. I should stop boasting that I was right since I wanted to be wrong and still lost. But proving Fred wrong is fun though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omgdrdoom Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 1 minute ago, Hooky said: There was another post by Fred about how stupid I was and about betting signatures (That I don't use or see anyway.) that I was wrong. I should stop boasting that I was right since I wanted to be wrong and still lost. But proving Fred wrong is fun though. Oh it's very fun. I just figure that if we keep doing this kind of stuff, maybe one of these days he'll learn that his opinions aren't facts and will learn to have more down to earth discussions. He had a few other posts in that thread and others that he was so certain Marvin was gone and we were all complete idiots for even suggesting to wait and see. Lulz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyInDC Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 Whichever idiot let Whitworth walk should be flogged then tossed to the kraken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooky Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 7 minutes ago, omgdrdoom said: Oh it's very fun. I just figure that if we keep doing this kind of stuff, maybe one of these days he'll learn that his opinions aren't facts and will learn to have more down to earth discussions. He had a few other posts in that thread and others that he was so certain Marvin was gone and we were all complete idiots for even suggesting to wait and see. Lulz He won't learn. In fact, he is compiling stats and quotes to prove that he wasn't wrong and/or gathering stats and quotes to prove how dumb we are for thinking that the signing is bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|SF2| Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 15 hours ago, Jason said: I have another question in addition to coaching changes. What did Mike give up to keep him? Dude, this is a huge win-win for Mike Brown. He didn't have to give up anything, in particular he didn't have to give up his winter vacation. Marvin comes in, signs 2 years extension for same money, Mike goes on vacation and Marvin continues to bank a nice paycheck with no accountability. Nobody getting fired or replaced unless they leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dub Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 Marvin gets to fire Alexander maybe? Otherwise it's "No, more status quo." Clap. Clap. Claaaaaaaap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyInDC Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 Who here thinks that Marvin is forced to accept personnel decisions from the F.O. which are not grounded in football reasons? Examples: draft picks, inactive list, starters... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|SF2| Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 19 minutes ago, Hooky said: He won't learn. In fact, he is compiling stats and quotes to prove that he wasn't wrong and/or gathering stats and quotes to prove how dumb we are for thinking that the signing is bad. The first thing out of his mouth will be, "See Hooky, you were wrong about Marvin Leaving and here are some stats to prove keeping Marvin was the best move,...Andy Dalton had more come from behind victories in 2017 than Aaron Rodgers." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|schotzee| Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 8 minutes ago, SF2 said: The first thing out of his mouth will be, "See Hooky, you were wrong about Marvin Leaving and here are some stats to prove keeping Marvin was the best move,...Andy Dalton had more come from behind victories in 2017 than Aaron Rodgers." Off the top of my head, I think he had more than Andrew Luck as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omgdrdoom Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 27 minutes ago, Hooky said: He won't learn. In fact, he is compiling stats and quotes to prove that he wasn't wrong and/or gathering stats and quotes to prove how dumb we are for thinking that the signing is bad. 6 minutes ago, SF2 said: The first thing out of his mouth will be, "See Hooky, you were wrong about Marvin Leaving and here are some stats to prove keeping Marvin was the best move,...Andy Dalton had more come from behind victories in 2017 than Aaron Rodgers." This is OT - but have you guys seen the Blake Bortles facts guy on Twitter? It's fucking hilarious and kind of reminds me of Fred. Examples: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|schotzee| Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 4 minutes ago, omgdrdoom said: This is OT - but have you guys seen the Blake Bortles facts guy on Twitter? It's fucking hilarious and kind of reminds me of Fred. Examples: Interesting . I think we should trade Andy, AJ Mac and our first rounder for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengallifer18 Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 Marcus is being groomed to eventually take his fathers place as HC. You all know how Mikie likes to keep it in the family Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo Montoya Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 No doubt Mikey has a soft spot for Marcus. People who receive benefits based on birthright need to stick together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooky Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 52 minutes ago, SF2 said: The first thing out of his mouth will be, "See Hooky, you were wrong about Marvin Leaving and here are some stats to prove keeping Marvin was the best move,...Andy Dalton had more come from behind victories in 2017 than Aaron Rodgers." And our 2nd half offense is fine even if it is statistically near the worst in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted January 3, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 Fans: This can all be eased by adding Jim Bob Cooter or Harold Goodwin as the OC and Jack Del Rio as the DC. Bengals: Welcome Bill Lazor and Welcome back Paul Alexander and Paul Guenther. Sigh. Fans: Well atleast we will do great things in Free Agency Bengals: We re-signed Tyler Eifert to a multi year deal! Sigh. Fans: Well the draft. We like the draft. Bengals: We drafted a TE or CB in round 1 again because thats what we do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-GoBengals- Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 17 hours ago, Montana Bengal said: Proactively creating this because it sounds like there will be changes. I'll try to keep it updated. Feel free to add if you see something new. Marvin - Obviously back for two years Paul Guenther - Gone - "With Bengals extending Marvin Lewis, well-respected defensive coordinator Paul Guenther, a free agent, is leaving to explore other options" yea if im Paul im so far gone its not even funny. bengals would have to offer me 150% of what oakland does. hmmmm i can live in the bay area in cali then vegas, then off to nevada with no state income tax... which is a raise in itself. let this nightmare repeat itself alone.. no reason to be a part of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USN Bengal Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 1 hour ago, omgdrdoom said: This is OT - but have you guys seen the Blake Bortles facts guy on Twitter? It's fucking hilarious and kind of reminds me of Fred. Examples: Never have seen Fred and this guy at the same time... obviously the same person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted January 3, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 Lazor back Alexander OUT!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|schotzee| Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 1 minute ago, MichaelWeston said: Alexander OUT!!!!!!!!! Seriously? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Montana Bengal| Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 Quote Jim OwczarskiVerified account @JimOwczarski 4m4 minutes ago More Not sure what we’ll hear from Marvin in the coming minutes regarding his staff makeup, but the #Bengals and OL coach Paul Alexander are set to part ways. http://cin.ci/2AijGoP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted January 3, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 Lazors coaching staff elsewhere Offensive coaches 2014 Offensive Coordinator – Bill Lazor Quarterbacks – Zac Taylor Assistant Quarterbacks – Ben Johnson Running Backs – Jeff Nixon Wide Receivers – Ken O'Keefe Assistant Wide Receivers – Phil McGeoghan Tight Ends – Dan Campbell Offensive Line – John Benton Assistant Offensive Line – Jack Bicknell Jr. Offensive Assistant – Ben Martin Lazor coaching staff 2015 Offensive coaches Offensive Coordinator/Quarterbacks – Zac Taylor Running Backs – Jeff Nixon Wide Receivers – Phil McGeoghan Tight Ends – Dan Campbell (promoted to interim head coach on October 5) Tight Ends - Ben Johnson Assistant Tight Ends – Mike Wahle Offensive Line – John Benton Assistant Offensive Line – Jack Bicknell Jr. Offensive Assistant – Ben Martin Senior Offensive Assistant – Al Saunders Senior Offensive Assistant – Ken O'Keefe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Montana Bengal| Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 Quote Jim OwczarskiVerified account @JimOwczarski 1m1 minute ago More Lewis won’t commit to remaining a 4-3 defense - also says he won’t wait for Paul Guenther to make a decision - hopes staff comes together as fast as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted January 3, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 Zac Taylor: Currently Rams assistant WR coach has coached QBs http://www.therams.com/team/coaches/zac-taylor/f61e5390-c90b-44e1-a93f-a78810f6d42f Jeff Nixon: Currently Baylor OC/RBs coach http://www.baylorbears.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/jeff_nixon_1041922.html https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLhNSG8-MlE John Benton: Currently 49ers OL Coach http://www.49ers.com/team/coaches/John-Benton/f341df4e-d599-410f-976a-2c4062c5b07d Phil McGeoghan: Currently Bills OL Coach http://www.buffalobills.com/team/coaches/phil_mcgeoghan/c273327c-1fee-416f-ba0b-1c917e0a4ea6 Jack Bicknell Jr: Currently Ole Miss OL Coach http://www.olemisssports.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/jack_bicknell_jr_1050862.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted January 3, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 20 hours ago, Montana Bengal said: Proactively creating this because it sounds like there will be changes. I'll try to keep it updated. Feel free to add if you see something new. 2018 Marvin - Obviously back for two years Lazor - "The #Bengals are keeping OC Bill Lazor: “This offseason will give us the chance to continue the success we had at the end of the year as we develop into a dynamic offense in 2018," Lazor said." Darrin Simmons - "Darrin Simmons will be back as special teams coordinator and possibly take on some other things." Gone Paul Guenther - Gone? - "With Bengals extending Marvin Lewis, well-respected defensive coordinator Paul Guenther, a free agent, is leaving to explore other options" Paul Alexander - "Not sure what we’ll hear from Marvin in the coming minutes regarding his staff makeup, but the #Bengals and OL coach Paul Alexander are set to part ways." Maybe add this to the top thread Head Coach: Marvin Lewis Offensive Coordinator: Bill Lazor QBs Coach: RBs Coach: Kyle Caskey (?) WRs Coach: James Urban (?) TEs Coach: Jonathan Hayes (?) OL coach: STs Coordinator: Darrin Simmons Defensive Coordinator: Paul Guenther (?) DL Coach: Jacob Burney (?) LB Coach: Jim Haslett (?) DB Coach: Kevin Coyle (?) Secondary Coach: Robert Livingston Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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