membengal Posted January 12, 2018 Report Share Posted January 12, 2018 So what's left, just QB coach? Never mind, just remembered to check first page. We are down to just QB coach, and the DB coach who is responsible for the safeties, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dub Posted January 12, 2018 Report Share Posted January 12, 2018 19 hours ago, membengal said: That's an absolute gem of a hire, replacing the buffoon Alexander with Pollack completely puts some joy back into the Bengals' off-season for me. Same, this is good news. No doubt in my mind that Alexander was being Redeemed & finally shitcanning him was a condition of Marvin staying. "“I’m not into coaching from a social services standpoint,” Pollack said. “To me, that’s kind of a side benefit to it. I’m in football because I love the game and I want to compete." This hire is 100% Marvin-driven. Nobody tell Redeemer he said that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
membengal Posted January 12, 2018 Report Share Posted January 12, 2018 I do love that quote. So very much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MichaelWeston Posted January 12, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2018 http://www.detroitlions.com/team/coaches/matt-raich/f41f8af5-3baf-4491-ad94-e9f91fa1ba96 Matt Raich http://www.miamidolphins.com/team/coaches/JONES/785115e2-a687-4eb2-a349-d787cdc4e1cb# Daronte Jones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snarkster Posted January 12, 2018 Report Share Posted January 12, 2018 Alex Van Belt seems official at the QB spot. http://www.bengals.com/news/article-1/Van-Pelt-to-coach-Bengals-QBs-Defensive-staff-complete/f54cd663-bda5-4018-a4b6-c14978ab41f9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PatternMaster Posted January 12, 2018 Report Share Posted January 12, 2018 I must say I'm very impressed with the coaching staff Marvin has put together. I will say I was not excited about him returning for the next two years, but so far I'm extremely pleased with the direction the team has taken with these new coaches. I feel like Marvin is putting together a great group of coaches that have had elite level success throughout their careers.Getting the Cowboys oline coach, Aaron Rodgers former QB coach, Austin for DC, and the other assistants are all great hires in my book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted January 13, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2018 All of these coaches were fired with the exception of Austin who was sort of fired. With that said they all seem pretty great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOF dan Posted January 13, 2018 Report Share Posted January 13, 2018 15 hours ago, PatternMaster said: I must say I'm very impressed with the coaching staff Marvin has put together. I will say I was not excited about him returning for the next two years, but so far I'm extremely pleased with the direction the team has taken with these new coaches. I feel like Marvin is putting together a great group of coaches that have had elite level success throughout their careers.Getting the Cowboys oline coach, Aaron Rodgers former QB coach, Austin for DC, and the other assistants are all great hires in my book. Agree wholeheartedly. This is almost a complete revamp with as experienced group. Whether they were fired or let go (pretty common in this business), it's still an interesting combination. Let's hope this is the recipe for a championship. I'm intrigued. 15 hours ago, PatternMaster said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dub Posted January 13, 2018 Report Share Posted January 13, 2018 13 hours ago, MichaelWeston said: All of these coaches were fired with the exception of Austin who was sort of fired. With that said they all seem pretty great. Anyone in that line of work for a long enough time is bound to have been fired at some point. It only seems remarkable because you follow the Bengals, where an employee could shit on Mike Brown's desk and he'd blame an upset stomach & offer them some Pepto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|schotzee| Posted January 13, 2018 Report Share Posted January 13, 2018 19 minutes ago, T-Dub said: Anyone in that line of work for a long enough time is bound to have been fired at some point. It only seems remarkable because you follow the Bengals, where an employee could shit on Mike Brown's desk and he'd blame an upset stomach & offer them some Pepto. Seems like a legitimate reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dub Posted January 13, 2018 Report Share Posted January 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, schotzee said: Seems like a legitimate reason. They had convenience store nachos for lunch so it's really not their fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|schotzee| Posted January 13, 2018 Report Share Posted January 13, 2018 11 minutes ago, T-Dub said: They had convenience store nachos for lunch so it's really not their fault. Lol. I need to work for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted January 14, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 With the Eagles and Patriots winning and 4 jobs still open this probably tables things for even longer. Patricia, McDaniels and DeFelipo all won and then Shurmur is tomorrow. And add in Wilks and Vrabel. Finalists seem to be, Colts-McDaniels and Vrabel Lions-Patricia and Vrabel Cardinals-Shurmur and Wilks and even Munchack. Giants-McDaniels, Patricia and Shurmur. Wilks is also mentioned What this means is that at least 1 of these guys will be looking for a job next year when it's possible we might be looking. Vrabel, Wilks and DeFelippo should all be top candidates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madieu Superstar Posted January 14, 2018 Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 14 hours ago, MichaelWeston said: With the Eagles and Patriots winning and 4 jobs still open this probably tables things for even longer. Patricia, McDaniels and DeFelipo all won and then Shurmur is tomorrow. And add in Wilks and Vrabel. Finalists seem to be, Colts-McDaniels and Vrabel Lions-Patricia and Vrabel Cardinals-Shurmur and Wilks and even Munchack. Giants-McDaniels, Patricia and Shurmur. Wilks is also mentioned What this means is that at least 1 of these guys will be looking for a job next year when it's possible we might be looking. Vrabel, Wilks and DeFelippo should all be top candidates. Why would we be looking? Marvin got a 2 year contract. He’ll be here unless he doesn’t want to be. And he NEVER wants to leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnbengal Posted January 14, 2018 Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 25 minutes ago, Madieu Superstar said: Why would we be looking? Marvin got a 2 year contract. He’ll be here unless he doesn’t want to be. And he NEVER wants to leave. Truer words have never been spoken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted January 15, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2018 5 hours ago, Madieu Superstar said: Why would we be looking? Marvin got a 2 year contract. He’ll be here unless he doesn’t want to be. And he NEVER wants to leave. When we win the Super Bowl Marvin will want to go out on top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madieu Superstar Posted January 15, 2018 Report Share Posted January 15, 2018 9 minutes ago, MichaelWeston said: When we win the Super Bowl Marvin will want to go out on top. ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanvilleBengal Posted January 15, 2018 Report Share Posted January 15, 2018 On 1/12/2018 at 5:28 PM, PatternMaster said: I must say I'm very impressed with the coaching staff Marvin has put together. I will say I was not excited about him returning for the next two years, but so far I'm extremely pleased with the direction the team has taken with these new coaches. I feel like Marvin is putting together a great group of coaches that have had elite level success throughout their careers.Getting the Cowboys oline coach, Aaron Rodgers former QB coach, Austin for DC, and the other assistants are all great hires in my book. Holy shit...the management actually look like they are LEGITIMATELY putting an above-average coaching staff together??? Especially with all these hires... And no joke, I did not know this was in the works, much less getting them. Seriously, we got the actual O-Line coach that were responsible for the Cowboys sucess up-front?? So maybe Andy can have a legit line similar to what he had back in 2015 ( I know it's a bit much but a guy can dream can't we??)... I have felt that Marvin is more of a GM-type than an actual HC. Sure, he was weaned as a LB coach in PissPuke, got his reputation because he had Ray Lewis and the 2000 Baltimore Ravens, The Redskins had pretty solid defense when he was there for that one year in 2002, and with more success than failure, the Bengals for the majority of his tenure have been solid to borderline elite at times with defense... Not to mention even though there are misses (Chris Perry, Kenny Irons), there have been more than enough above-average starters from the draft (AJ, Geno, Carlos, Mixon, Gio, even Hill [I think he's gonna get traded or released, especially with Mixon out there], and so many others), not to mention solid FA that come here despite being washup by other teams. And let's not forget that despite all the trouble, he's the guy that stayed with Taze even when the rest of the NFL would rather blackball him out of the league a la Colin Kapernick......Hopefully with this group of coaches, Marvin can stay to being a GM and let the actual coaches do the work to make them better. The only way to beat the likes of Pisspuke and the Cheatriots is to out play and outcoach them, and to out discipline them as well (Please no more bullshit 15-yards that occur because of some stupid shit that could have been avoided... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted January 15, 2018 Report Share Posted January 15, 2018 I dont understand anyone being impressed by Austin, granted he didnt have much to work with in Detroit, but his D's rankings went down each year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madieu Superstar Posted January 15, 2018 Report Share Posted January 15, 2018 7 hours ago, DanvilleBengal said: Holy shit...the management actually look like they are LEGITIMATELY putting an above-average coaching staff together??? Especially with all these hires... And no joke, I did not know this was in the works, much less getting them. Seriously, we got the actual O-Line coach that were responsible for the Cowboys sucess up-front?? So maybe Andy can have a legit line similar to what he had back in 2015 ( I know it's a bit much but a guy can dream can't we??)... I have felt that Marvin is more of a GM-type than an actual HC. Sure, he was weaned as a LB coach in PissPuke, got his reputation because he had Ray Lewis and the 2000 Baltimore Ravens, The Redskins had pretty solid defense when he was there for that one year in 2002, and with more success than failure, the Bengals for the majority of his tenure have been solid to borderline elite at times with defense... Not to mention even though there are misses (Chris Perry, Kenny Irons), there have been more than enough above-average starters from the draft (AJ, Geno, Carlos, Mixon, Gio, even Hill [I think he's gonna get traded or released, especially with Mixon out there], and so many others), not to mention solid FA that come here despite being washup by other teams. And let's not forget that despite all the trouble, he's the guy that stayed with Taze even when the rest of the NFL would rather blackball him out of the league a la Colin Kapernick......Hopefully with this group of coaches, Marvin can stay to being a GM and let the actual coaches do the work to make them better. The only way to beat the likes of Pisspuke and the Cheatriots is to out play and outcoach them, and to out discipline them as well (Please no more bullshit 15-yards that occur because of some stupid shit that could have been avoided... Why do people keep saying this? Frank Pollack became the offensive line coach for the Cowboys in 2015. There is a legitimate argument to be made that the Cowboys had the best offensive line in the NFL in 2014 (the year before Pollack got here). Pollack did not draft Tyron Smith, Travis Frederick or Zack Martin. In fact, all of those guys made pro bowls BEFORE Pollack took over. He may be better than Alexander, but if you think he’s responsible for building the Cowboys offensive line, you’re just wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanvilleBengal Posted January 15, 2018 Report Share Posted January 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, Madieu Superstar said: Why do people keep saying this? Frank Pollack became the offensive line coach for the Cowboys in 2015. There is a legitimate argument to be made that the Cowboys had the best offensive line in the NFL in 2014 (the year before Pollack got here). Pollack did not draft Tyron Smith, Travis Frederick or Zack Martin. In fact, all of those guys made pro bowls BEFORE Pollack took over. He may be better than Alexander, but if you think he’s responsible for building the Cowboys offensive line, you’re just wrong. Well in my case, I honestly didn't know...but I think that pretty much success (i.e winning seasons, and playoffs) tends to make people link them with success. Like you said, Pollack did not scout Smith, Frederick, or Martin, nor did he draft them (I have to admit but Jerry and Stephen Jones really knocked the ball out of the park with them though). However, he made the Pro-Bowlers to All-Pros...not to mention Zeke showed up about 4 years later and we all saw how that's turning out. If there is talent there in the Bengals line--particularly with Cedric and Fisher, I have pretty good faith that Pollack can figure out how to play them to what they were billed as. They were drafted in their respective rounds for a reason. And we know to an extent that the offense more or less goes as the line goes...Andy gets protection and Joe and Gio get holes, all of a sudden point aren't so much of a premium. Not to mention the defense can benefit as well. Yes, it's pretty much simple in my reasoning, but that's just how I see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madieu Superstar Posted January 15, 2018 Report Share Posted January 15, 2018 13 minutes ago, DanvilleBengal said: Well in my case, I honestly didn't know...but I think that pretty much success (i.e winning seasons, and playoffs) tends to make people link them with success. Like you said, Pollack did not scout Smith, Frederick, or Martin, nor did he draft them (I have to admit but Jerry and Stephen Jones really knocked the ball out of the park with them though). However, he made the Pro-Bowlers to All-Pros...not to mention Zeke showed up about 4 years later and we all saw how that's turning out. If there is talent there in the Bengals line--particularly with Cedric and Fisher, I have pretty good faith that Pollack can figure out how to play them to what they were billed as. They were drafted in their respective rounds for a reason. And we know to an extent that the offense more or less goes as the line goes...Andy gets protection and Joe and Gio get holes, all of a sudden point aren't so much of a premium. Not to mention the defense can benefit as well. Yes, it's pretty much simple in my reasoning, but that's just how I see it. I think it’s likely that he’s better than PA, I just don’t think there is any evidence that says this is some sort of home run hire like people have said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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