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1. DE Dwight Freeney 6'1 268 16 (PFF 71.7 NR) 3 tackles, 3 sacks 11% snaps

2. DT Haloti Ngata 6'4 330 12 (PFF 79.7 NR) 7 tackles, 2 sacks, 13% snaps

3. DT Jordan Hill 6'1 295 5 (PFF NR) No stats, snaps

5. DE Ezekial Ansah 6'5 275 5 (PFF 80.1, Rank 44) 44 tackles, 12 sacks, 47% of snaps

6. LB Tahir Whitehead 6'2 241 6 (PFF 79.6 Rank 26) 110 tackles, 1 int, 1 sack, 2 passes defensed, 87% of snaps

7. LB Paul Worrilow 6'0 230 5 (PFF 60.1 NR) 30 tackles, 25% D, 48% STs snaps

8. LB Nick Bellore 6'1 250 7 (PFF 65.6 NR) 12 tackles, 9% D, 65% STs snaps

9. S Tavon Wilson 6'0 212 6 (PFF 45.4, Rank 78) 55 tackles, 2 sacks, 1 int, 2 passes defensed, 50% of snaps

10. S Don Carey 5'11 202 9 (PFF NR) 9 tackles, 1 snap on defense, 64% of STs snaps

11. CB Nevin Lawson 5'9 192 4 (PFF 41.7, Rank 117) 47 tackles, 0 int, 4 passes defensed, 51% of snaps

12. CB DJ Hayden 5'11 190 5 (PFF 50.7, Rank 96) 44 tackles, 0 int, 9 passes defensed, 44% of snaps

 

https://www.freep.com/story/sports/nfl/lions/2018/01/04/detroit-lions-coach-search-candidates/1003446001/

 

Detroit's Depth Chart

Pink Free Agents

Red IR(return)

Purple RFA/EFA

After the Black IR

 

QB Stafford 23 Rudock 18 Torgersen 19        
RB Abdullah 19 Riddick 20 Zenner 18 Washington 20 Green 20   James 18
WR Tate 19 Billingsley 18 Ford 19        
WR M Jones 21 Marquez 19          
WR Golladay 21 Jones 20         T Jones 18
TE Ebron 19 Fells 18 Roberts 21 Valles 18 Barnes 19    
LT Decker 21 Mihalik 19 Koloamatangi 19       Robinson 18
LG Glasgow 20 Dahl 20          
C

Swanson 18

          Kerin 18
RG Lang 20           Barclay 18
RT Wagner 22 Cleary 18 Skipper 19       Robinson 19
               
K Prater 21            
P Martin 21           Redfern 18
LS Muhlbach 18            
               
LE Zettel 20 Washington 19 Freeney 18        
DT Robinson 20 Coe 18 Ringo 18       Ngata 18
DT Spence 20 Ledbetter 21 Johnson 19       Hill 18
RE Ansah 18 Barrett 19 Valoaga 19       Hyder 18
OLB Whitehead 18 Reeves-Maybin 21         Copeland 18
MLB Davis 22 Bellore 18         Chubb 19
OLB Worrilow 18 Longa 19          
S Killebrew 20 Milligan 19 McClure 19       Wilson 18
S Quin 20 Carey 18 Washington 19        
CB Slay 21 Diggs 19 Agnew 21       Lawrence 21
CB Lawson 18 Tabor 21 Barnes 19        
NB Hayden 18            

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If we are going to spend the money it would take to land Ansah in FA, I'd rather spend it on an O-lineman.  I'm content with our DEs.

 

I might be interested in Whitehead though.

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Whitehead is the only guy even worth looking at.

 

Is Haloti Ngata old and washed up (cheap) enough to play here yet? Seems like the name recognition would fit right in with James Harrison, AJ Hawk, Kevin Minter, etc. signings except Ngata isn't a LB unfortunately.

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I am a big fan of bringing in a vet at every unit. Not necessarily a star or even one that will even make the team, but I believe more veterans mean greater depth. For instance, just because you sign Torrey Smith doesn't mean he has to make the team. And even if he doesn't he can serve as an off the roster depth because he knows the system. This type of fringe roster guys are plentiful on the group that Bicknell coached with SF in 2016. 

 

  Age August Targets Catches yards avg td long Status
Jeremy Kerley 29 115 64 667 10.4 3 33 Free Agent, released by Jets after serving PED suspension, 22-217-1 2017
Quinton Patton 28 63 37 408 11 0 45 Free Agent, on Jets in offseason, released after being placed on IR
Torrey Smith 29 49 20 267 13.4 3 53 Eagles, likely cap casualty as they are in cap trouble. 36-430-2 2017
Rod Streater 30 27 18 191 10.6 2 25 Signed a reserve future contract with Bills for 2018
Chris Harper 24 21 13 133 10.2 0 19 Free Agent, released by Jets before season started
Aaron Burbridge 24 16 7 88 12.6 0 24 Still with 49ers
DeAndre Smelter 26 1 1 23 23 0 23 49ers PS, didn't sign a reserve future contract

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On 1/8/2018 at 8:05 AM, omgdrdoom said:

Whitehead is the only guy even worth looking at.

 

Is Haloti Ngata old and washed up (cheap) enough to play here yet? Seems like the name recognition would fit right in with James Harrison, AJ Hawk, Kevin Minter, etc. signings except Ngata isn't a LB unfortunately.

I mean, you said Kevin Minter, but I think you probably meant Karlos Dansby. (Minter is only 27).

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Just now, khwiii said:

I mean, you said Kevin Minter, but I think you probably meant Karlos Dansby. (Minter is only 27).

Yep I knew I was missing someone so I threw Minter in since he just wasn't good last year. We have a weird fascination with getting LBs that play well right up until we sign them.

 

A years-out-of-prime Ngata seems like a perfect Bengals signing though.

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2 hours ago, omgdrdoom said:

Yep I knew I was missing someone so I threw Minter in since he just wasn't good last year. We have a weird fascination with getting LBs that play well right up until we sign them.

 

A years-out-of-prime Ngata seems like a perfect Bengals signing though.

Our NT doesn't play that much and he actually was ok last year I think. Lets say he replaces Pat Sims. That's just 26% of snaps. Wouldn't surprise me at all if we bring him in for that. 

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2 minutes ago, MichaelWeston said:

Our NT doesn't play that much and he actually was ok last year I think. Lets say he replaces Pat Sims. That's just 26% of snaps. Wouldn't surprise me at all if we bring him in for that. 

 

Yeah but he also had a $7.7M cap hit last year as part of a 2 year $12M deal. If he doesn't come much cheaper then there's no way he comes here, but I could see it if he wants to play for Austin and wants to be on a good defense again to take a discount.

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31 minutes ago, omgdrdoom said:

 

Yeah but he also had a $7.7M cap hit last year as part of a 2 year $12M deal. If he doesn't come much cheaper then there's no way he comes here, but I could see it if he wants to play for Austin and wants to be on a good defense again to take a discount.

Yep, this is actually how I view most of these guys. 

 

I would then just wait on Ngata, Worrilow, Bellore, Tavon Wilson, Lawson and Hayden. If the music stops and they don't have a partner they would all provide good depth for the offseason and maybe beyond. 

 

I would make Whitehead a priority. Solid but not special starter who can play MLB and knows the defense. Doesn't often happen that you can get both the DC and his best LB. I would not overpay if the market dictates it because I am not sure how good he is. Is he better at WLB or MLB? 

http://www.mlive.com/lions/index.ssf/2018/01/lions_lose_a_third_coach_in_de.html

I would sign Kerley now to a deal with zero bonus. He had his best year with our WRs coach and Dalton was his college QB. It makes too much sense. The only thing that I could see keeping us from it would be if Kerley is a locker room issue. 

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DeAndre Smelter had a try out with the Colts today. Send the Lumina and bring him in for a look. Bicknell coached him in San Fran

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Cowboys OL

 

Joe Looney 6'3 315 5 years (50.7 PFF Grade) 13 career starts

http://www.dallascowboys.com/team/players/roster/joe-looney

 

Jonathan Cooper 6'2  302 5 years (67 PFF Grade) 27 career starts

http://www.dallascowboys.com/team/players/roster/jonathan-cooper

 

Byron Bell 6'4 340 7 years (30.4 PFF Grade) 74 career starts

http://www.dallascowboys.com/team/players/roster/byron-bell

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12 hours ago, MichaelWeston said:

Cowboys OL

 

Joe Looney 6'3 315 5 years (50.7 PFF Grade) 13 career starts

http://www.dallascowboys.com/team/players/roster/joe-looney

 

Jonathan Cooper 6'2  302 5 years (67 PFF Grade) 27 career starts

http://www.dallascowboys.com/team/players/roster/jonathan-cooper

 

Byron Bell 6'4 340 7 years (30.4 PFF Grade) 74 career starts

http://www.dallascowboys.com/team/players/roster/byron-bell

The only guy who would interest me at all is Cooper. As a replacement for Ron Leary (who signed w/Denver), he played pretty well as a replacement. He's a former #1 pick who has bounced around the league some. I'd like them to do better than this guy, but he's IMO he's better than Tre Hopkins at the very least. 

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21 hours ago, Bunghole said:

What's Sam "The Dancing Bear" Adams doing these days? 

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On 1/29/2018 at 3:00 PM, Cat said:

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LOL. He probably drinks straight from the chocolate fountain.

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On 1/31/2018 at 4:10 PM, Bunghole said:

LOL. He probably drinks straight from the chocolate fountain.

 

You say that like it's something that we're not supposed to do...

 

:whistle: 

 

 

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