oldschooler Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 I say he loses his case and the Bengals retain his rights. At least that's what I am hoping. I also hope we trade him for at least a 3rd round pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluhartz Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 when I first saw this I thought it meant he won and was unrestricted.. I thought damn/meh.... that figures.. could have got something for him and didn't.. not surprised.. but I am hoping for the same thing you are old... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschooler Posted February 14, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 19 minutes ago, fluhartz said: when I first saw this I thought it meant he won and was unrestricted.. I thought damn/meh.... that figures.. could have got something for him and didn't.. not surprised.. but I am hoping for the same thing you are old... Sorry. I added something in the title to avoid further confusion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOF dan Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 How can you not hope they retain rights? If the dimwit browns knew how to use a fax machine, we would have another 2nd AND 3rd round pick. How nice would that look about now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Bunghole| Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 It would be super nice to have those extra picks, and to end this discussion one way or another once and for all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|SF2| Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 Everybody better hopes he loses. 1. If you think he is better than Dalton then we need to retain his rights. That way we will have actual leverage to resign him this year to a reasonable contract 2. If you think Andy will be the starter for the next 3 years then we can trade McCarron and pick up a few picks. Losing his rights is no win situation. He is gone and we get pretty much nothing out of the deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 My guess is if he loses the Bengals put the relatively cheap 1st round tender on him and retain him for 1 more year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omgdrdoom Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 19 minutes ago, Jason said: My guess is if he loses the Bengals put the relatively cheap 1st round tender on him and retain him for 1 more year. Relatively cheap? His cap hit on a 1st round tender would be higher than any backup QB in the league that didn't just win the Super Bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 2 hours ago, omgdrdoom said: Relatively cheap? His cap hit on a 1st round tender would be higher than any backup QB in the league that didn't just win the Super Bowl. It’s a little over $4M. Add that to what Andy is making and it’s still cheaper than a lot of QB contracts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omgdrdoom Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 14 minutes ago, Jason said: It’s a little over $4M. Add that to what Andy is making and it’s still cheaper than a lot of QB contracts. Okay and A.J. Green's contract is pretty reasonable if you consider that Cody Core is only making $600k this year.....or something. You said AJM would be relatively cheap with a 1st round tender, you didn't say "AJ and Daltons contracts put together are cheaper than a lot of QB contracts", and I was just pointing out that the statement that you actually made is absolutely false. A 1st round tender makes him one of the highest paid backups in the league. I'd rather roll with a backup QB not much worse for $1-2M and put those extra couple million elsewhere. Every penny counts when you know we're going to be setting aside $20M for "future extensions + injury fund". A 1st round tender on a backup that has played like a backup is silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 On the scale of nfl contracts 4M is relatively cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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T-Dub Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 If it was anyone but Cleveland I might wonder if they got word from someone that he would win his appeal and they only made the failed trade look like a fuck-up to get out of the deal at the last minute without revealing they had inside info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omgdrdoom Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 15 hours ago, Jason said: On the scale of nfl contracts 4M is relatively cheap. Lol but you compare guys by their position (backup QB not starting QB). Saying "we should pay our punter $10M because it's relatively cheap compared to starting CB contracts" would be stupid. It's totally fine to just admit what you said was wrong but I know that's extremely difficult for some people to do around here. If McCarron being the 2nd-3rd highest paid backup (behind a proven starter and a Super Bowl champion) and you're ready to die on the hill of it being "relatively cheap", then that's on you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschooler Posted February 15, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 Broncos will pursue McCarron if he is a UFA https://247sports.com/nfl/denver-broncos/Bolt/Report-Broncos-will-pursue-Bengals-QB-AJ-McCarron-if-he-becomes-UFA-115112949 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluhartz Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 6 minutes ago, oldschooler said: Broncos will pursue McCarron if he is a UFA https://247sports.com/nfl/denver-broncos/Bolt/Report-Broncos-will-pursue-Bengals-QB-AJ-McCarron-if-he-becomes-UFA-115112949 Man.. I hope he doesn't win it... I think the Broncos have like the 36th pick or something like that in the second round... that would be awesome. Even a high 3rd would be good... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschooler Posted February 15, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 9 minutes ago, fluhartz said: Man.. I hope he doesn't win it... I think the Broncos have like the 36th pick or something like that in the second round... that would be awesome. Even a high 3rd would be good... I read where someone said they think the Bengals will win, simply because it will open up a Pandora's Box to the NFL where all a player has to say is "I was healthy". They also said the ruling could come as early as today. But likely this weekend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 Per Dan Graziano Twitter: I was told the McCarron decision could be delayed beyond today for personal reasons on the part of the arbitrator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|SF2| Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 7 hours ago, oldschooler said: I read where someone said they think the Bengals will win, simply because it will open up a Pandora's Box to the NFL where all a player has to say is "I was healthy". They also said the ruling could come as early as today. But likely this weekend Some injuries are pretty obvious, in McCarron's case it certainly is a grey area thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Montana Bengal| Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 Quote Jim OwczarskiVerified account @JimOwczarski FollowingFollowing @JimOwczarski More #Bengals QB AJ McCarron won his grievance - he is now an unrestricted free agent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluhartz Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 welp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschooler Posted February 15, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 Well that sucks. I was hoping to get something for him. Oh well. Go get paid and suck somewhere else now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 And we won't sign any decent free agents now for sure. Can't fool around with the comp pick we might get for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleEarl Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 And the Bengals owe him back pay! The judge rammed it right up the Bengals poop chute! The one area the Bengals seemed to be competent was in contracts and legal proceedings. I guess they suck at that as well. Incompetence personified Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleEarl Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 29 minutes ago, Jason said: And we won't sign any decent free agents now for sure. Can't fool around with the comp pick we might get for him. Zero comp picks. Total FAIL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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