|SF2| Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 11 hours ago, oldschooler said: Maybe that is why Vegas has them dead last in Super Bowl odds?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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oldschooler Posted March 26, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2018 A comment from that Suh tweet above... Wish my team could turn off salary cap Same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|High School Harry| Posted March 27, 2018 Report Share Posted March 27, 2018 1 hour ago, oldschooler said: With a combination like that, they may fill 1/3 of their stadium for home games. Or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omgdrdoom Posted March 29, 2018 Report Share Posted March 29, 2018 On 3/26/2018 at 8:02 PM, High School Harry said: With a combination like that, they may fill 1/3 of their stadium for home games. Or not. ain't that the truth Do people in LA just hate football? Both of the LA teams had shit attendance at home last season and both teams were pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky151 Posted March 29, 2018 Report Share Posted March 29, 2018 On 3/26/2018 at 6:34 PM, oldschooler said: A comment from that Suh tweet above... Wish my team could turn off salary cap Same Bengals could have easily afforded Suh. He makes 14 mil for this year. Baker+Pacman+MJ93=14 mil. So basically cutting Michael Johnson would have let us sign Suh instead of Baker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|schotzee| Posted March 29, 2018 Report Share Posted March 29, 2018 42 minutes ago, omgdrdoom said: ain't that the truth Do people in LA just hate football? Both of the LA teams had shit attendance at home last season and both teams were pretty good. I think places like that it's because there are so many other things to do than watch a football game. Places like Lambeau will fill the stadium up no matter how shitty they are, because the only other options are drinking beer and or ice fishing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|schotzee| Posted March 29, 2018 Report Share Posted March 29, 2018 5 minutes ago, sparky151 said: Bengals could have easily afforded Suh. He makes 14 mil for this year. Baker+Pacman+MJ93=14 mil. So basically cutting Michael Johnson would have let us sign Suh instead of Baker. Remember though, Suh in a Bengals uni would equal probably only half a season played due to suspensions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omgdrdoom Posted March 29, 2018 Report Share Posted March 29, 2018 13 minutes ago, sparky151 said: Bengals could have easily afforded Suh. He makes 14 mil for this year. Baker+Pacman+MJ93=14 mil. So basically cutting Michael Johnson would have let us sign Suh instead of Baker. I don't know about "easily". Baker ($2.43m cap hit) + Pacman ($5.78m cap relief) + Johnson ($4.987m cap relief) = $13.197 so it's not quite there plus that's replacing 3 players with 1 Suh so that's 2 more roster spots worth of cap space that you have to add in even if they're league minimum guys. Plus Suh took less to go to the LA Rams. He was offered more elsewhere so his Bengals price was almost 100% not $14m. This isn't the place people dream of playing for the weather, owner, or recent winning. "Easily" is quite the stretch when you look at all the facts of the situation. I'd love Suh on this team but it's not really so simple to get there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluhartz Posted March 29, 2018 Report Share Posted March 29, 2018 19 minutes ago, schotzee said: Remember though, Suh in a Bengals uni would equal probably only half a season played due to suspensions. it was never going to happen in a million years (much like OBJ).. but could you imagine him and Burfict on the field on the same team. The refs would get a boner throwing flags at those two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyrid Posted March 29, 2018 Report Share Posted March 29, 2018 7 hours ago, omgdrdoom said: I don't know about "easily". Baker ($2.43m cap hit) + Pacman ($5.78m cap relief) + Johnson ($4.987m cap relief) = $13.197 so it's not quite there plus that's replacing 3 players with 1 Suh so that's 2 more roster spots worth of cap space that you have to add in even if they're league minimum guys. Plus Suh took less to go to the LA Rams. He was offered more elsewhere so his Bengals price was almost 100% not $14m. This isn't the place people dream of playing for the weather, owner, or recent winning. "Easily" is quite the stretch when you look at all the facts of the situation. I'd love Suh on this team but it's not really so simple to get there. Yeah, I don't buy that logic. Pacman's money has already been put towards other players, like Preston Brown and Cordy Glenn. MJ is probably going to get cut after the draft, which will open up a little more space but they're trying to get extensions done with Geno and Dunlap, so that $5M will go quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|High School Harry| Posted March 29, 2018 Report Share Posted March 29, 2018 2 hours ago, happyrid said: Yeah, I don't buy that logic. Pacman's money has already been put towards other players, like Preston Brown and Cordy Glenn. MJ is probably going to get cut after the draft, which will open up a little more space but they're trying to get extensions done with Geno and Dunlap, so that $5M will go quickly. Let's not kid ourselves. Adam Jones is on speed dial for the first time one of our defensive backs gets an ouchie. The Pac Will Be Back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|schotzee| Posted March 29, 2018 Report Share Posted March 29, 2018 12 minutes ago, High School Harry said: Let's not kid ourselves. Adam Jones is on speed dial for the first time one of our defensive backs gets an ouchie. The Pac Will Be Back. Naw, I hear he has taken on a new job as Rick's limousine driver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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happyrid Posted March 30, 2018 Report Share Posted March 30, 2018 7 hours ago, High School Harry said: Let's not kid ourselves. Adam Jones is on speed dial for the first time one of our defensive backs gets an ouchie. The Pac Will Be Back. I think he'll be back for $1.5 or $2M on a one year deal. I'm ok with it if it happens. He's an above average return man and decent option as a #4 CB. And our top 3 CBs have all had injury issues in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooky Posted March 30, 2018 Report Share Posted March 30, 2018 7 hours ago, happyrid said: I think he'll be back for $1.5 or $2M on a one year deal. I'm ok with it if it happens. He's an above average return man and decent option as a #4 CB. And our top 3 CBs have all had injury issues in the past. Has there been any reports or even speculation of any teams looking at him? I haven't seen any. That makes me think you're right unless this org has changed. It seems in the past that the bengals can't bare to see one of their free agents go unsigned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whodey365 Posted March 30, 2018 Report Share Posted March 30, 2018 13 hours ago, oldschooler said: I didn't even realize he played for the 9ers. Always liked Leon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyrid Posted March 30, 2018 Report Share Posted March 30, 2018 4 hours ago, Hooky said: Has there been any reports or even speculation of any teams looking at him? I haven't seen any. That makes me think you're right unless this org has changed. It seems in the past that the bengals can't bare to see one of their free agents go unsigned. No, I haven't seen any reports of other teams interested in him or even any reports about the Bengals wanting him back. Just making a guess. The Bengals always love to be as deep as possible at CB. And with his off field stuff, I doubt there's going to be a huge market for him outside of Cincy. If he's still sitting out there looking for a job in July and willing to take a little more than the vet minimum, it probably makes sense for both him and the team. I wouldn't expect the Bengals would get in any kind of bidding war for him if a market does develop though. They have a lot of cap space tied up on Dre and Dennard this year and I do buy that they're relatively tight up against the cap once they sign picks and get extensions done with Dunlap and Atkins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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