MichaelWeston Posted April 28, 2018 Report Share Posted April 28, 2018 Kevarie Russell will be playing for his life. I wonder if this will mean anything for Dennard. Atleast might wait until after the season to pay him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccartman2 Posted April 28, 2018 Report Share Posted April 28, 2018 So one of the worst offenses in he NFL. Felt drafting a center and a third rb just fixed everything? The defense better be 2000 ravens if we want to win anything. Maybe we got an eye on the top qb next year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whodey365 Posted April 28, 2018 Report Share Posted April 28, 2018 Draft started well day 1 and 2 but idk about today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron~Popeil Posted April 28, 2018 Report Share Posted April 28, 2018 Just now, ccartman2 said: So one of the worst offenses in he NFL. Felt drafting a center and a third rb just fixed everything? The defense better be 2000 ravens if we want to win anything. Maybe we got an eye on the top qb next year They rebuilt half the offensive line this off season. The skill players were not the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted April 28, 2018 Report Share Posted April 28, 2018 1 minute ago, ccartman2 said: So one of the worst offenses in he NFL. Felt drafting a center and a third rb just fixed everything? The defense better be 2000 ravens if we want to win anything. Maybe we got an eye on the top qb next year A very strange thing. How do you ignore the entire Offensive line after the first pick. Same nonsense they did last year. Counting on players at RT that have been proven failures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschooler Posted April 28, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2018 Just now, ccartman2 said: So one of the worst offenses in he NFL. Felt drafting a center and a third rb just fixed everything? The defense better be 2000 ravens if we want to win anything. Maybe we got an eye on the top qb next year You forgot they got an OC that has an off season to install his own system, traded for a LT and re-signed one of the best TEs in the NFL (when healthy). The problems with the Offense wasn't about drafting late round O-linemen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted April 28, 2018 Report Share Posted April 28, 2018 I had every player on my want list except Hubbard but I would have wanted him in 3 and the first CB. I like the talent but I think we are better off with Connor Williams and pick 100 then Hubbard and Jefferson. Maybe you get Josey Jewell instead of Jefferson. Lower upside but still very good on teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonBlade Posted April 28, 2018 Report Share Posted April 28, 2018 Not sure about today's selections. Okay we have a few needs here and there, but I'm not sure that our needs were where we drafted. I wanted O line, O line, some more O line and then a LB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted April 28, 2018 Report Share Posted April 28, 2018 1 minute ago, oldschooler said: You forgot they got an OC that has an off season to install his own system, traded for a LT and re-signed one of the best TEs in the NFL (when healthy). The problems with the Offense wasn't about drafting late round O-linemen. You think it was 3rd string RB?, 3rd Safety?, STs LB?. Those offensive line picks could have a much bigger impact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccartman2 Posted April 28, 2018 Report Share Posted April 28, 2018 They rebuilt half the offensive line this off season. The skill players were not the problem. Assuming the guy from buffalo stays healthy. Who plays at RT? O turnstile again? Hartless from the Giants? Or bad heart fisher ? Behind green in Latrell do you buy any other receiver? What about backup qb? I know we have Barkley and Driscoll. Likely one of those two cornerbacks gets cut. Unless we cut Shaw. Just seems odd and like Mikey is ok with another 6-10 or worse season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted April 28, 2018 Report Share Posted April 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, ccartman2 said: Assuming the guy from buffalo stays healthy. Who plays at RT? O turnstile again? Hartless from the Giants? Or bad heart fisher ? Behind green in Latrell do you buy any other receiver? What about backup qb? I know we have Barkley and Driscoll. Likely one of those two cornerbacks gets cut. Unless we cut Shaw. Just seems odd and like Mikey is ok with another 6-10 or worse season. Relying on players who have proven to be bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|BlackJesus| Posted April 28, 2018 Report Share Posted April 28, 2018 Bengals will take the 6th round off but have 3 in the 7th ... might as well just take some long shots ... Round 7 (249) Round 7 (252) Round 7 (253) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschooler Posted April 28, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2018 3 minutes ago, MichaelWeston said: You think it was 3rd string RB?, 3rd Safety?, STs LB?. Those offensive line picks could have a much bigger impact. You think there won't be Free Agents and Undrafted Free Agents? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschooler Posted April 28, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2018 1 minute ago, MichaelWeston said: Relying on players who have proven to be bad. With a totally different Coach. You're acting like Pollack can do more with 5th rounders than 1st and 2nd round talent. That logic has makes zero sense to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted April 28, 2018 Report Share Posted April 28, 2018 7 minutes ago, oldschooler said: With a totally different Coach. You're acting like Pollack can do more with 5th rounders than 1st and 2nd round talent. That logic has makes zero sense to me. Your acting like guys who have proven to be terrible will suddenly be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschooler Posted April 28, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2018 14 minutes ago, ccartman2 said: Assuming the guy from buffalo stays healthy. Who plays at RT? O turnstile again? Hartless from the Giants? Or bad heart fisher ? Behind green in Latrell do you buy any other receiver? What about backup qb? I know we have Barkley and Driscoll. Likely one of those two cornerbacks gets cut. Unless we cut Shaw. Just seems odd and like Mikey is ok with another 6-10 or worse season. We haven't went 6-10 or worse since 2010. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snarkster Posted April 28, 2018 Report Share Posted April 28, 2018 So we're headed to camp with an OT situation of Glenn who is a proven NFL starter, but hasn't proven he can stay healthy; the ironically named Hart and the dismal duo of Ogbuehi/Fisher who in three years have yet to prove they deserve to be on a NFL roster. Might as well count on Kent Perkins, Jevarious Leamon or Justin Murray to step up. Two CB? Not sure they can beat out Russell for 4th CB (and that's only if the Bengals don't do something very Bengalish like bring back Pacman). RT is one of those spots where you should be able to find someone serviceable on the 3rd day. Yeah, BPA, yada, yada, yada, but this team needs tackle competition. Draft Fail, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschooler Posted April 28, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2018 9 minutes ago, MichaelWeston said: Your acting like guys who have proven to be terrible will suddenly be good. I'm not acting like they have proven anything other than they had a bad coach and now they have a good one. Coaches mean a lot in the NFL. You can have all the talent in the World and still bust if not developed. The 1990s Bengals proved as much. And I'm sorry, I know a lot of fans wanted to overcompensate for the O-line. But if Pollack and the Bengals thought the O-line needed 5th round picks spent on Tackles that were available instead of the players they drafted to improve the team, I'm sure they would have made those moves instead. I'm not over stressed about the line as some. I see 1st and 2nd round talents and a guy that started 21 games for a Playoff team already on the roster. You see the cupboard as bare when it really isn't as bare as our new O-line coach sees it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted April 28, 2018 Report Share Posted April 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, oldschooler said: I'm not acting like they have proven anything other than they had a bad coach and now they have a good one. Coaches mean a lot in the NFL. You can have all the talent in the World and still bust if not developed. The 1990s Bengals proved as much. And I'm sorry, I know a lot of fans wanted to overcompensate for the O-line. But if Pollack and the Bengals thought they O-line needed 5th round picks spent on Tackles that were available instead of the players they drafted to improve the team, I'm sure they would have made those moves instead. I'm not over stressed about the line as some. I see 1st and 2nd round talents and a guy that started 21 games for a Playoff team already on the roster. You see the cupboard as bare when it really isn't as bare as our new O-line coach sees it. You know our new coach was fired right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snarkster Posted April 28, 2018 Report Share Posted April 28, 2018 17 minutes ago, oldschooler said: With a totally different Coach. You're acting like Pollack can do more with 5th rounders than 1st and 2nd round talent. That logic has makes zero sense to me. Hope he is a miracle worker, but the 1st & 2nd rounders haven't done one damned thing to merit those picks. Maybe Pollock can squeeze something other than runny shit from Fisher and Ogbuehi, but I'd rather have other options available instead of relying on the failure twins (AGAIN). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted April 28, 2018 Report Share Posted April 28, 2018 1 minute ago, snarkster said: Hope he is a miracle worker, but the 1st & 2nd rounders haven't done one damned thing to merit those picks. Maybe Pollock can squeeze something other than runny shit from Fisher and Ogbuehi, but I'd rather have other options available instead of relying on the failure twins (AGAIN). And even if he does they both become Free agents in an offseason when we are going to be paying Atkins, Dunlap and Eifert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccartman2 Posted April 28, 2018 Report Share Posted April 28, 2018 We haven't went 6-10 or worse since 2010. Understood. But we should would have last year absent a miracle pass to Boyd. I'm sorry that I thought we would invest in a bit off offense in the draft. I'm fine with price and if Glenn stays health great. Still we need a right tackle. If it is on the roster great but we were told to trust fisher and oturnstile ( I won't learn to spell is name unless he gets a lot better) and that was a disaster. They were way to cheap to keep whit and likely we missed the playoffs because of it. Now we've loaded up on d that won't play and may not make the team. Guess we will see this year but I think the draft started great but not a believer in round four or five. Hope I'm wrong and won't say more because there are a lot more smarter people than me with this shit. But for us dumb people. When your offense sucks you try to improve it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschooler Posted April 28, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2018 Just now, MichaelWeston said: You know our new coach was fired right? After helping assemble and coach one of the best lines in the NFL. And the team that fired him, hired our old one that was proven to be horrible. Every Bengals fan I know was ecstatic when Alexander was fired. We totally upgraded LT and Center. We got a upgrade at Coach. And some fans still feel like spending 3rd day picks was the only answer to fix what they remember of last year. If you want to stay on the ledge and bitch about a great draft, feel free. I'm done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dub Posted April 28, 2018 Report Share Posted April 28, 2018 37 minutes ago, oldschooler said: You forgot they got an OC that has an off season to install his own system, traded for a LT and re-signed one of the best TEs in the NFL (when healthy). The problems with the Offense wasn't about drafting late round O-linemen. Why are we still talking about Eifert like he is relevant to anything? If Redeemer wants to keep paying him for 2015 I guess that's his money to burn but IDK why any fan would be factoring him into anything other than the salary cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschooler Posted April 28, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2018 4 minutes ago, snarkster said: Hope he is a miracle worker, but the 1st & 2nd rounders haven't done one damned thing to merit those picks. Maybe Pollock can squeeze something other than runny shit from Fisher and Ogbuehi, but I'd rather have other options available instead of relying on the failure twins (AGAIN). Ogbuehi http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/profiles/cedric-ogbuehi?id=2552355 http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2429764-cedric-ogbuehi-nfl-draft-2015-scouting-report-grade-for-bengals-rookie https://www.si.com/nfl/audibles/2014/05/13/2015-nfl-mock-draft-cedric-ogbuehi Jake Fisher http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/profiles/jake-fisher?id=2552360 http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2429767 https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2382903-jake-fisher-has-potential-to-be-nfl-drafts-biggest-sleeper-at-offensive-tackle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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