|SF2| Posted July 17, 2018 Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 Might as well start some stupid early conversations!! BTW, they said that Marvin Lewis has been the coach since 2015 in the first one. USA Today is dog crap. 27 Cincinnati Bengals Kyle Terada-USA TODAY Sports The definition of insanity is trying the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. The Cincinnati Bengals somehow and some way thought it was genius to give head coach Marvin Lewis a two-year extension. Did we mention he's been the coach since 2015, and the Bengals haven't won a playoff game since 1990? Oh, and the Bengals once again opted to do pretty much nothing in free agency. They did fix the offensive line by trading for Cordy Glenn from the Buffalo Bills, but they also lost key running back Jeremy Hill in free agency. Once again, seven wins is the Bengals' ceiling. That's just life when you keep Lewis around as your coach. https://www.thesportster.com/football/pre-training-camp-official-nfl-power-rankings/ SLIDE25 of 32 25. CINCINNATI BENGALS (Photo: Aaron Doster, USA TODAY Sports) The Cincinnati Bengals are stuck in an unsatisfactory status quo, thanks in large part to the constant mediocrity Andy Dalton puts forth at the quarterback position. While A.J. Green may be one of the best wide receivers in the NFL, he rarely makes Dalton look like an elite-level starter. Perhaps they can finally get the ball rolling with second-year running back Joe Mixon on the ground this season. With linebacker Vontaze Burfict facing another suspension to start the season, the Bengals can plan on being a little slow out of the gates. Fellow linebacker Preston Brown, who was added in free agency, will have to step up immediately. Defensive tackle Geno Atkins will do his best to buoy this unit, but don’t count on him to make Cincinnati’s defense into a serviceable group all on his own. https://247sports.com/nfl/philadelphia-eagles/ContentGallery/The-2018-NFL-Power-Rankings-heading-into-training-camp-118133766/#118133766_1 27. Cincinnati Bengals (7-9) - Previously: 29. The Bengals have really struggled in recent seasons. A big part of that, at least in 2017, was the decline of their offensive front. Fixing the blocking had to be priorities A, B and C this offseason, and the "A" solution was Cordy Glenn in a nice trade with Buffalo. The "B" part of that equation was first-round pick Billy Price, who will be a big upgrade at center. There was no "C," but the Bengals will definitely block better, giving them a chance to be competitive in more games. Not having Vontaze Burfict around in the first four games will hurt, however. http://walterfootball.com/nflpowerrankings.php#ixzz5LWg6YKe0 The first one is laughable. We did nothing in FA but picked up a player at a position we desperately needed. Oh, and we lost key veteran Jeremy Hill who rushed for 117 yards last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluhartz Posted July 17, 2018 Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 I get that Andy isn't Tom Brady and ole marv is... well... ole marv. But they did fix (hopefully) the o-line at least a little buy getting new players at the two biggest holes in the line. They went 7-9 last year and I feel lke they have improved. I don't think I have seen a prediction higher than like 6-10 except for Bengals fans. and yes the first one is hilarious.. besides losing key running back JH, ole marv has been our coach since all the way back in 2015. It's the fucking USA Today and this person knows absolutely nothing about the Bengals...or probably any other team in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|SF2| Posted July 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, fluhartz said: I get that Andy isn't Tom Brady and ole marv is... well... ole marv. But they did fix (hopefully) the o-line at least a little buy getting new players at the two biggest holes in the line. They went 7-9 last year and I feel lke they have improved. I don't think I have seen a prediction higher than like 6-10 except for Bengals fans. and yes the first one is hilarious.. besides losing key running back JH, ole marv has been our coach since all the way back in 2015. It's the fucking USA Today and this person knows absolutely nothing about the Bengals...or probably any other team in the NFL. Actually, I think the original picture I cut (it was huge) was taken by a USA Today photographer. The rankings were done by "The Sportster". It is utter garbage. I dont get how these people have us so low. I could accept 18 or so but 25, 27, 27 is bullshit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted July 17, 2018 Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 I totally disagree. We should be somewhere between 21-23. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|SF2| Posted July 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, Rick said: I totally disagree. We should be somewhere between 21-23. AFC Standings Tm W L W-L% PF PA PD MoV SoS SRS OSRS DSRS AFC East New England Patriots* 13 3 .813 458 296 162 10.1 -1.2 8.9 6.3 2.6 Buffalo Bills+ 9 7 .563 302 359 -57 -3.6 -0.5 -4.0 -3.0 -1.0 Miami Dolphins 6 10 .375 281 393 -112 -7.0 0.7 -6.3 -3.9 -2.4 New York Jets 5 11 .313 298 382 -84 -5.3 0.3 -4.9 -2.9 -2.1 AFC North Pittsburgh Steelers* 13 3 .813 406 308 98 6.1 -1.1 5.0 3.2 1.8 Baltimore Ravens 9 7 .563 395 303 92 5.8 -2.4 3.4 2.2 1.2 Cincinnati Bengals 7 9 .438 290 349 -59 -3.7 -1.3 -5.0 -4.1 -0.9 Cleveland Browns 0 16 .000 234 410 -176 -11.0 0.0 -11.0 -6.8 -4.1 AFC South Jacksonville Jaguars* 10 6 .625 417 268 149 9.3 -2.8 6.5 3.0 3.6 Tennessee Titans+ 9 7 .563 334 356 -22 -1.4 -2.1 -3.5 -2.0 -1.5 Houston Texans 4 12 .250 338 436 -98 -6.1 -0.3 -6.4 -0.8 -5.6 Indianapolis Colts 4 12 .250 263 404 -141 -8.8 -1.3 -10.1 -6.1 -4.0 AFC West Kansas City Chiefs* 10 6 .625 415 339 76 4.8 -1.3 3.4 3.8 -0.3 Los Angeles Chargers 9 7 .563 355 272 83 5.2 -1.5 3.6 -0.3 4.0 Oakland Raiders 6 10 .375 301 373 -72 -4.5 -0.2 -4.7 -3.0 -1.8 Denver Broncos 5 11 .313 289 382 -93 -5.8 -0.9 -6.7 -3.9 -2.9 NFC Standings Glossary Tm W L W-L% PF PA PD MoV SoS SRS OSRS DSRS NFC East Philadelphia Eagles* 13 3 .813 457 295 162 10.1 -0.7 9.4 7.0 2.5 Dallas Cowboys 9 7 .563 354 332 22 1.4 0.2 1.6 0.4 1.2 Washington Redskins 7 9 .438 342 388 -46 -2.9 1.6 -1.3 0.5 -1.8 New York Giants 3 13 .188 246 388 -142 -8.9 1.3 -7.6 -6.4 -1.2 NFC North Minnesota Vikings* 13 3 .813 382 252 130 8.1 1.0 9.1 2.3 6.8 Detroit Lions 9 7 .563 410 376 34 2.1 0.6 2.7 5.2 -2.5 Green Bay Packers 7 9 .438 320 384 -64 -4.0 2.1 -1.9 -0.3 -1.6 Chicago Bears 5 11 .313 264 320 -56 -3.5 2.2 -1.3 -4.6 3.3 NFC South New Orleans Saints* 11 5 .688 448 326 122 7.6 1.5 9.2 7.0 2.2 Carolina Panthers+ 11 5 .688 363 327 36 2.3 2.1 4.3 1.7 2.7 Atlanta Falcons+ 10 6 .625 353 315 38 2.4 1.9 4.3 1.1 3.2 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 5 11 .313 335 382 -47 -2.9 1.7 -1.3 0.4 -1.7 NFC West Los Angeles Rams* 11 5 .688 478 329 149 9.3 -0.2 9.2 8.2 1.0 Seattle Seahawks 9 7 .563 366 332 34 2.1 -0.2 1.9 0.7 1.2 Arizona Cardinals 8 8 .500 295 361 -66 -4.1 0.4 -3.7 -4.0 0.2 San Francisco 49ers 6 10 .375 331 383 -52 -3.3 0.4 -2.9 -0.8 -2.1 These are the standings from last year. I can see 12 teams we will be better than easily and I am not including Seattle who gutted their defense and Kansas City who replaced Alex Smith with Patrick Mahomes who has throw 35 career NFL passes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted July 17, 2018 Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 7 minutes ago, SF2 said: AFC Standings Tm W L W-L% PF PA PD MoV SoS SRS OSRS DSRS AFC East New England Patriots* 13 3 .813 458 296 162 10.1 -1.2 8.9 6.3 2.6 Buffalo Bills+ 9 7 .563 302 359 -57 -3.6 -0.5 -4.0 -3.0 -1.0 Miami Dolphins 6 10 .375 281 393 -112 -7.0 0.7 -6.3 -3.9 -2.4 New York Jets 5 11 .313 298 382 -84 -5.3 0.3 -4.9 -2.9 -2.1 AFC North Pittsburgh Stealers* 13 3 .813 406 308 98 6.1 -1.1 5.0 3.2 1.8 Baltimore Ravens 9 7 .563 395 303 92 5.8 -2.4 3.4 2.2 1.2 Cincinnati Bengals 7 9 .438 290 349 -59 -3.7 -1.3 -5.0 -4.1 -0.9 Cleveland Browns 0 16 .000 234 410 -176 -11.0 0.0 -11.0 -6.8 -4.1 AFC South Jacksonville Jaguars* 10 6 .625 417 268 149 9.3 -2.8 6.5 3.0 3.6 Tennessee Titans+ 9 7 .563 334 356 -22 -1.4 -2.1 -3.5 -2.0 -1.5 Houston Texans 4 12 .250 338 436 -98 -6.1 -0.3 -6.4 -0.8 -5.6 Indianapolis Colts 4 12 .250 263 404 -141 -8.8 -1.3 -10.1 -6.1 -4.0 AFC West Kansas City Chiefs* 10 6 .625 415 339 76 4.8 -1.3 3.4 3.8 -0.3 Los Angeles Chargers 9 7 .563 355 272 83 5.2 -1.5 3.6 -0.3 4.0 Oakland Raiders 6 10 .375 301 373 -72 -4.5 -0.2 -4.7 -3.0 -1.8 Denver Broncos 5 11 .313 289 382 -93 -5.8 -0.9 -6.7 -3.9 -2.9 NFC Standings Glossary Tm W L W-L% PF PA PD MoV SoS SRS OSRS DSRS NFC East Philadelphia Eagles* 13 3 .813 457 295 162 10.1 -0.7 9.4 7.0 2.5 Dallas Cowboys 9 7 .563 354 332 22 1.4 0.2 1.6 0.4 1.2 Washington Redskins 7 9 .438 342 388 -46 -2.9 1.6 -1.3 0.5 -1.8 New York Giants 3 13 .188 246 388 -142 -8.9 1.3 -7.6 -6.4 -1.2 NFC North Minnesota Vikings* 13 3 .813 382 252 130 8.1 1.0 9.1 2.3 6.8 Detroit Lions 9 7 .563 410 376 34 2.1 0.6 2.7 5.2 -2.5 Green Bay Packers 7 9 .438 320 384 -64 -4.0 2.1 -1.9 -0.3 -1.6 Chicago Bears 5 11 .313 264 320 -56 -3.5 2.2 -1.3 -4.6 3.3 NFC South New Orleans Saints* 11 5 .688 448 326 122 7.6 1.5 9.2 7.0 2.2 Carolina Panthers+ 11 5 .688 363 327 36 2.3 2.1 4.3 1.7 2.7 Atlanta Falcons+ 10 6 .625 353 315 38 2.4 1.9 4.3 1.1 3.2 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 5 11 .313 335 382 -47 -2.9 1.7 -1.3 0.4 -1.7 NFC West Los Angeles Rams* 11 5 .688 478 329 149 9.3 -0.2 9.2 8.2 1.0 Seattle Seahawks 9 7 .563 366 332 34 2.1 -0.2 1.9 0.7 1.2 Arizona Cardinals 8 8 .500 295 361 -66 -4.1 0.4 -3.7 -4.0 0.2 San Francisco 49ers 6 10 .375 331 383 -52 -3.3 0.4 -2.9 -0.8 -2.1 These are the standings from last year. I can see 12 teams we will be better than easily and I am not including Seattle who gutted their defense and Kansas City who replaced Alex Smith with Patrick Mahomes who has throw 35 career NFL passes. What is your point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|SF2| Posted July 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, Rick said: What is your point? Sorry, I forgot to add text. Re-read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Bunghole| Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 God, these guys act like we won three games last season or something. And even once out of it, we didn't quit, beating a desperate for the playoffs Ravens at their place at the end of the season. I mean, FFS, they talk about how bad the oline was last season without Zeitler and Whitworth...we won one more game without them than with them! And now the unit is improved! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
membengal Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 This feels familiar. It was last this bad in 2011 - some observers then calling them the worst team they had ever seen pre-season and literally predicting no wins. We know how that turned out. They were similarly over-looked in 1981 and 1988 (yes, I am oldish at this point). Having memories of Bengals seasons since around 1976, there are occasional seasons that appear to bolt out of nowhere and catch national observers way off guard with this organization. This year feels to me like another one that could be that way. I am truly bullish on this team, in a way I have not been in awhile. I really do think the o-line is fixed, and with that a lot falls into place. As long as Andy stays healthy, I really do expect a big year from this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted July 20, 2018 Report Share Posted July 20, 2018 If there is anything more useless than a power ranking, it’s an offseason power ranking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dub Posted July 20, 2018 Report Share Posted July 20, 2018 8 minutes ago, Jason said: If there is anything more useless than a power ranking, it’s an offseason power ranking. If there's anything more useless than an offseason power ranking it would run for re-election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|SF2| Posted July 23, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2018 Bleacher Report has us at 19. 2018 NFL Power Rankings RankTeam 1Philadelphia Eagles 2Pittsburgh Steelers 3Green Bay Packers 4New England Patriots 5Minnesota Vikings 6Los Angeles Rams 7Atlanta Falcons 8New Orleans Saints 9Los Angeles Chargers 10Washington Redskins 11Jacksonville Jaguars 12Tennessee Titans 13Detroit Lions 14San Francisco 49ers 15Carolina Panthers 16Dallas Cowboys 17Seattle Seahawks 18Houston Texans 19Cincinnati Bengals 20Oakland Raiders 21Kansas City Chiefs 22Denver Broncos 23Chicago Bears 24New York Giants 25Buffalo Bills 26Baltimore Ravens 27Tampa Bay Buccaneers 28Arizona Cardinals 29Miami Dolphins 30New York Jets 31Indianapolis Colts 32Cleveland Browns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|kennethmw| Posted July 23, 2018 Report Share Posted July 23, 2018 On 7/20/2018 at 10:26 AM, T-Dub said: If there's anything more useless than an offseason power ranking it would run for re-election. Speaking of that, here was ESPN's Preseason Rankings for '17. http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/page/NFLpowerrankingsx170815/2017-preseason-nfl-power-rankings-new-england-patriots-atlanta-falcons-seattle-seahawks-front As a recap, Philly was 15 Minny was 17 LA Rams was 27 Jacksonville was 28. ESPN is such a crew of incredible prognosticators!!😅😅 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|schotzee| Posted September 11, 2018 Report Share Posted September 11, 2018 So we have moved up to 23 in espn's power rankings with 10 winless teams ahead of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|schotzee| Posted September 11, 2018 Report Share Posted September 11, 2018 Guess we went down 2 in bleacher report after a win. Makes sense I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cricket Posted September 11, 2018 Report Share Posted September 11, 2018 Do they have the Browns tied with the stealers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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