Hooky Posted October 2, 2018 Report Share Posted October 2, 2018 I'm no OL genius, but the opposing pass rush has been relatively controlled, especially in the first half on Sunday, then Eifert went out. Coincidence? Uzomah and Kroft are obviously no Eifert on routes, but they can pick up a lot of the slack. The bigger problem seems to be the edge that went to shit when he went down. And sucked all last year, also with no Eifert. So what do they do? Besides replacing Hart. Looking for a suggestion that's not futile. Well, they all are since we can't control anything, so a realistic suggestion is what I'm looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dub Posted October 2, 2018 Report Share Posted October 2, 2018 Same thing they did last year and the year before that. It's not a big adjustment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooky Posted October 2, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2018 50 minutes ago, T-Dub said: Same thing they did last year and the year before that. It's not a big adjustment. So the OL will suck the rest of the year like last year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Bunghole| Posted October 2, 2018 Report Share Posted October 2, 2018 3 hours ago, Hooky said: So the OL will suck the rest of the year like last year? I think you'll agree that the o-line's performance or lack of talent doesn't begin or end with Eifert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooky Posted October 2, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Bunghole said: I think you'll agree that the o-line's performance or lack of talent doesn't begin or end with Eifert. I won't agree. The difference in pass blocking was night and day before and after Eifert got hurt. I think you'll agree that you aren't an OL talent expert. Who is bad beside Hart, who I already mentioned will not get traded or benched? And with Eifert out, who's going to help? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo Montoya Posted October 2, 2018 Report Share Posted October 2, 2018 Eifert has been out so much that the adjustment to his loss will be minimal, IMO. Anything he was able to give us is a bonus and we have capable players behind him. I don't think the oline will impacted by losing Eifert either. They are a work in progress and we can expect it to be up and down all year. For as much as fans continue to shit on them, the oline hasn't totally handicapped the team or prevented the offense from completely turning it around from last year's debacle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Ray Posted October 2, 2018 Report Share Posted October 2, 2018 Eifert rarely lined up on the O line. He generally was lined up wide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleEarl Posted October 2, 2018 Report Share Posted October 2, 2018 19 minutes ago, Sea Ray said: Eifert rarely lined up on the O line. He generally was lined up wide Precisely. Eifert was rarely a blocker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
membengal Posted October 2, 2018 Report Share Posted October 2, 2018 52 minutes ago, Inigo Montoya said: Eifert has been out so much that the adjustment to his loss will be minimal, IMO. Anything he was able to give us is a bonus and we have capable players behind him. I don't think the oline will impacted by losing Eifert either. They are a work in progress and we can expect it to be up and down all year. For as much as fans continue to shit on them, the oline hasn't totally handicapped the team or prevented the offense from completely turning it around from last year's debacle. For sure. I mean, the first four games have yielded either the best start or almost the best start offensively for the club in most every major offensive statistical category that matters. Hard to do that if the line is complete dogshit... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dub Posted October 2, 2018 Report Share Posted October 2, 2018 11 minutes ago, membengal said: For sure. I mean, the first four games have yielded either the best start or almost the best start offensively for the club in most every major offensive statistical category that matters. Hard to do that if the line is complete dogshit... I'd still say we're winning despite the OL rather than because of them, but we all knew they were going to be a liability. More worried about the defense falling off a cliff. We're not going to be able to hang 40 points on everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo Montoya Posted October 2, 2018 Report Share Posted October 2, 2018 1 hour ago, T-Dub said: I'd still say we're winning despite the OL rather than because of them, but we all knew they were going to be a liability. More worried about the defense falling off a cliff. We're not going to be able to hang 40 points on everyone. Agreed about the defense being a bigger concern than OL at this point. I doubt anyone could have predicted that before the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dub Posted October 2, 2018 Report Share Posted October 2, 2018 9 minutes ago, Inigo Montoya said: Agreed about the defense being a bigger concern than OL at this point. I doubt anyone could have predicted that before the season. The Lions weren't known for having a dominating defense so I was kind of "meh" about Austin, but I didn't expect them to regress so badly. All this zone coverage & hoping for a turnover is not at all what we're built for... You don't need to pray for turnovers if you get a stop once in a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo Montoya Posted October 3, 2018 Report Share Posted October 3, 2018 1 hour ago, T-Dub said: The Lions weren't known for having a dominating defense so I was kind of "meh" about Austin, but I didn't expect them to regress so badly. All this zone coverage & hoping for a turnover is not at all what we're built for... You don't need to pray for turnovers if you get a stop once in a while. Austin deserves some of the blame. I would add the injuries/suspensions at LB to the list. It's also true that the defense was bad on 3rd down last year before Austin arrived. And we've been bad at allowing points at the ends of halves for a couple years. At this point I can only hope Burfict's return can make a difference. It can't get much worse than it's been so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Bunghole| Posted October 3, 2018 Report Share Posted October 3, 2018 5 hours ago, Hooky said: I won't agree. The difference in pass blocking was night and day before and after Eifert got hurt. I think you'll agree that you aren't an OL talent expert. Who is bad beside Hart, who I already mentioned will not get traded or benched? And with Eifert out, who's going to help? I agree I am no expert of pretty much anything, except selling cars. But as others have noted, Eifert was mostly a TE in name only as he lines up as a WR much of the time he's in there, and frankly, he hadn't been playing a ton anyway. Anyone in need of a Subaru? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostInDaJungle Posted October 4, 2018 Report Share Posted October 4, 2018 On 10/2/2018 at 8:56 PM, Bunghole said: I agree I am no expert of pretty much anything, except selling cars. But as others have noted, Eifert was mostly a TE in name only as he lines up as a WR much of the time he's in there, and frankly, he hadn't been playing a ton anyway. Anyone in need of a Subaru? My Mom is looking for one. Got a Forrester with low miles and a great deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Bunghole| Posted October 4, 2018 Report Share Posted October 4, 2018 1 hour ago, LostInDaJungle said: My Mom is looking for one. Got a Forrester with low miles and a great deal? Actually, I do. Since the 2019 "all new" Forester just came out (and started hitting the ground yesterday), our service department apparently has purged its service loaner inventory of 2018 Foresters, so I have quite a few 2018's with anywhere from 5,000 to 12,000-ish miles on them, in premium (one step up from base trim) and Limited (leather, second from top trim level) trims. I also have a pair of 2015's, one with like 22k miles on it and the other with like 46k miles on it. Obviously the 15's are less than the 18's due to age and miles but I generally recommend to folks to get as new a used vehicle with as few miles on it as possible, because it's like getting a new car, and also because you're capturing the most resale value with some of the depreciation having also come off. If you prefer, we can continue this via PM if you need to communicate that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Bunghole| Posted October 4, 2018 Report Share Posted October 4, 2018 Subaru= Lowest cost of ownership of any brand Safest cars on the road as a brand Highest resale value of any brand Highest loyalty rating of any brand AWD systems make them virtually unstoppable in bad weather or offroad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thezerawkid Posted October 4, 2018 Report Share Posted October 4, 2018 2 hours ago, Bunghole said: Subaru= Lowest cost of ownership of any brand Safest cars on the road as a brand Highest resale value of any brand Highest loyalty rating of any brand AWD systems make them virtually unstoppable in bad weather or offroad Lowest cost of ownership? Is that for real? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOF dan Posted October 4, 2018 Report Share Posted October 4, 2018 Subaru - have one - love it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|schotzee| Posted October 4, 2018 Report Share Posted October 4, 2018 I realize there isn't a lot of chat right now dudes but this isn't even about football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cricket Posted October 4, 2018 Report Share Posted October 4, 2018 37 minutes ago, schotzee said: I realize there isn't a lot of chat right now dudes but this isn't even about football. I think they’re talking about what vehicle they should drive to this Sunday’s Bengals game... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|schotzee| Posted October 4, 2018 Report Share Posted October 4, 2018 8 minutes ago, Cricket said: I think they’re talking about what vehicle they should drive to this Sunday’s Bengals game... I hope so. Otherwise Hookys gonna be pissed off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Bunghole| Posted October 4, 2018 Report Share Posted October 4, 2018 1 hour ago, thezerawkid said: Lowest cost of ownership? Is that for real? Yes, in terms of purchase price factored in with maintenance costs, it's for real. At least Subaru has awards over the last few years for that category. 1 hour ago, HOF dan said: Subaru - have one - love it! Awesome. They truly are great cars. A bit boring looking outside the BRZ/WRX/STi cars, but built like tanks. 1 hour ago, schotzee said: I realize there isn't a lot of chat right now dudes but this isn't even about football. I apologize. 55 minutes ago, Cricket said: I think they’re talking about what vehicle they should drive to this Sunday’s Bengals game... 46 minutes ago, schotzee said: I hope so. Otherwise Hookys gonna be pissed off. We don't want that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooky Posted October 5, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2018 3 hours ago, schotzee said: I hope so. Otherwise Hookys gonna be pissed off. Yes. I am absolutely fucking furious. Moderators, do your job! You should be fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostInDaJungle Posted October 5, 2018 Report Share Posted October 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, Hooky said: Yes. I am absolutely fucking furious. Moderators, do your job! You should be fired. Moderators, let me get a low mileage '18 for my Mom real quick first! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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