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[u]White House dismisses Chavez assassination call
Venezuela VP calls for U.S. to act on Robertson's 'criminal' remark
August 23, 2005
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WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Bush administration officials Tuesday disavowed Christian broadcaster Pat Robertson's call for the assassination of Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez.

Venezuela's Vice President Vicente Rangel accused Robertson of inciting violence and challenged the White House to take action against Robertson.

"What is the U.S. government going to do about this criminal statement made by one of its citizens?" he asked.

Robertson told viewers of his longtime show, "The 700 Club," on Monday that Chavez was turning his oil-rich South American country into "a launching pad for communist infiltration and Muslim extremism all over the continent."

"If he thinks we're trying to assassinate him, I think we really ought to go ahead and do it," said Robertson, founder of the Christian Coalition.

"It's a whole lot cheaper than starting a war, and I don't think any oil shipments will stop. This man is a terrific danger, and this is in our sphere of influence."

Robertson -- who has a history of stirring controversy with remarks on subjects from Islam to the Supreme Court -- did not explain how Venezuela was to be used by Muslim extremists. The U.S. State Department Web site says 98 percent of the population are Roman Catholic or protestant.

State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said Tuesday that Robertson has the right of any private citizen to say whatever he wants, but added that the televangelist's remarks "do not represent the views of the United States."

"His comments are inappropriate and, as we have said before, any allegations that we are planning to take hostile action against the Venezuelan government are completely baseless and without fact," McCormack said.

But Venezuela's ambassador to the United States, Bernardo Alvarez, said Robertson was "no ordinary private citizen" and demanded the White House strongly condemn the remarks.

Alvarez said the Christian Coalition, which Robertson no longer leads, claims some 2 million members and helped jump-start President Bush's 2000 presidential campaign after his New Hampshire primary loss to Arizona Sen. John McCain.

"Robertson has been one of this president's staunchest allies," he said.

"The United States might not permit its citizens to use its territory and airwaves to incite terrorists abroad and the murder of a democratically elected president," Alvarez said. "Venezuela demands that the U.S. abide by international and domestic law and respect its country and our president."

Venezuela's vice president said the U.S. response "challenges the antiterrorist ideology of the American government."

"What are the American authorities going to do? The ball is in their court," Rangel said.

And former Senate Majority Leader Bob Dole, who ran against Robertson for the GOP presidential nomination in 1988, called the comments "stupid" and "ludicrous" and suggested Robertson apologize "very quickly."

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[i][b]Ties to Cuba[/b][/i]
Chavez has built extensive ties to Cuba since he was elected in 1998 and has become a close friend of Cuban leader Fidel Castro, selling oil to the communist island at preferential rates.

This week, Chavez visited Cuba, where Castro appeared on his weekly television call-in show.

Chavez said Tuesday he was unimpressed and unconcerned by Robertson's comments.

The colorful former Venezuelan army officer, who once led a coup attempt himself, has the widespread support of his country's poor.

His opponents, largely drawn from the country's middle and upper classes, accuse him of undermining democratic institutions.

Chavez was re-elected under a new constitution in 2000. In 2004, he won a recall referendum with the support of 58 percent of voters.

But he has become an increasingly outspoken critic of the United States, which he accuses of having been behind a 2002 coup attempt that forced him from office for two days.

The Bush administration denied involvement in the coup attempt, but refused to condemn it.

Executive orders issued by presidents Gerald Ford and Ronald Reagan banned political assassinations.

Chavez has also said the United States has tried to stir opposition to his government, and he warned this month that U.S. troops would be "soundly defeated" if Washington were to invade Venezuela.

Administration officials have been sharply critical of Venezuela, the fourth-largest supplier of oil to the United States.

During her confirmation hearings, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice singled out Venezuela as a "negative force" in the region, and Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld has suggested Venezuela has interfered with the internal affairs of other countries in the region.

Rumsfeld also dismissed Robertson's comments Tuesday, telling reporters at the Pentagon that "our department doesn't do that kind of thing."

Last week, the head of the U.S. Senate Judiciary Committee asked Rumsfeld to tone down his anti-Chavez rhetoric, warning that the United States needed Venezuelan help to battle the drug trade.

The concern of Sen. Arlen Specter, a Pennsylvania Republican, stemmed from remarks Rumsfeld made during a trip to the region, when he said Venezuela and Cuba had been involved in Bolivian affairs "in unhelpful ways."

Venezuela has accused agents from the U.S. Drug Enforcement Agency of spying on the Chavez government. The Bush administration denies those allegations as well.
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[u]SO LETS PLAY ...... LOOK AT THIS CHRISTIAN NUTCASES QUOTES:[/u]

[b][color="blue"](he has made almost a billion dollars from dumb ass plate passers who believe that a man in the clouds, sent a guy to get nailed into some wood a few thousands years ago to erase the fact that they masturbate.... his following also believes that a man lived in a whales stomach, was talked to by God (who showed up as a burning bush), and that a talking snake tricked a woman who fell out of a guys rib to eat an apple..... so lets see what this brilliant leader thinks about other topics)[/color][/b]


[i]"Satan has gone! God has just healed somebody! A hernia has been healed! Several people are being healed of hemorrhoids and varicose veins! People with flat feet! God is doing just great things to you!" [/i]
[b]--- Pat Robertson in a videotaped 1981 Sermon[/b]


[i]"The Constitution of the United States, for instance, is a marvelous document for self-government by the Christian people. But the minute you turn the document into the hands of non-Christian people and atheistic people they can use it to destroy the very foundation of our society. And that's what's been happening." [/i]
[b]--- Pat Robertson, 700 Club television program, December 30, 1981[/b]


[i]"fiminism is a socialist, anti-family political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians."[/i]
[b]--- Pat Robertson[/b]



[i]“The Islamic people, the Arabs, were the ones who captured Africans, put them in slavery, and sent them to America as slaves. Why would the people in America want to embrace the religion of slavers?” [/i]
[b]--- Pat Robertson[/b]



[i]"AIDS is the hammer and gun of the homosexual movement, an effective vehicle to propel the homosexual agenda throughout every phase of our society." [/i]
[b]--- Pat Robertson[/b]



[i]"We have enough votes to run the country. And when the people say, "We've had enough," we are going to take over." [/i]
[b]--- Pat Robertson, April, 1980 "Washington for Jesus" rally[/b]



[i]"Homosexuals want to come into churches and disrupt church services and throw blood all around and try to give people AIDS and spit in the face of ministers." [/i]
[b]--- Pat Robertson (18 Jan 1995)[/b]





:headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang:

[color="purple"][i]Pass the Plate Baby, where do I sign up !!!![/color][/i]

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[u]It gets Better :thumbsup: [/u]

[b]--> Robertson's claims his prayers go directly to God and can change the weather. For example, Robertson claims to have used the power of prayer to steer hurricanes away from his companies' Virginia Beach, Virginia headquarters. He took credit for steering the course in 1985 of Hurricane Gloria, away from his house and towards a Gay Nightclub. Pat told the NY Times that the event was "extremely important because I felt, interestingly enough, that if I couldn't move a hurricane, I could hardly move a nation." The Hurricane caused millions of dollars of destruction in many states along the east coast. He made a similar claim about another destructive storm, Hurricane Felix, in 1995.


--> He is also bad at predicting the apocalypse. In 1980, Pat announced that the Tribulation would begin in "the fall of 1982." In his 1990 book The New Millennium, Robertson proposed that the Tribulation would begin on April 29, 2000.[/b]

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[i]"Just like what Nazi Germany did to the Jews, so liberal America is now doing to the evangelical Christians. It's no different. It is the same thing. It is happening all over again. It is the Democratic Congress, the liberal-based media and the homosexuals who want to destroy the Christians. Wholesale abuse and discrimination and the worst bigotry directed toward any group in America today. More terrible than anything suffered by any minority in history." [/i]
[b]--- Pat Robertson in 1993[/b]


[color="purple"]Now try to read this quote without your head exploding from the ultimate hypocrisy [/color]


[i]"The worse thing in the world for somebody who is a person of color, black, African American, whatever term is in vogue these days to hold grudges and say well 100 years ago my ancestors were in slavery, and therefore I hate you. That doesn't fly. And to live in the past is the most numbing experience because what it does is sap your energy for the future. And, what everybody's got to do is to say before God I'm going to ask God to bring forgiveness into my life. And, I am just totally against these leaders who stir up the divisions and the hatred. You've seen it -- talking about all these offenses and things that happened. And, they're doing it for publicity. They're doing it to raise money. They're doing it to get a following so they'll be elected to some office, and so forth. That's wrong. To play on the hatred of people for your own personal gain is abhorrent, and there are many people who do that." [/i] [b]
--- Pat Robertson[/b]
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pat robertson is the rights "micheal moore" imo...

extremism is a bad thing...

the media will put this out, like "this is how conservatives really think :o " but its bullshit... i bet you won't find 1 person on here that thinks that was a good idea... first of all, you can't do it by our law and the geneva convention (i could be wrong about the exact document its in)... second, we don't want to pick a war... they are pissed b/c they think we are going to do (prior to robertsons idiotic comments) and i'm sure there are other reasons... but he has been saying shitty things about us for a week or two... don't see that going well in congressional hearings when W is like "ohhh, he called my mom a slut" or whatever the hell our excuse would be... this is bullshit and it would never happen... i guess he did get some much needed publicity though :blink:

he doesn't speak for many (if any at all)... he is a guy that uses God to make money... not a good dude in my book... i don't go to church for similar reasons... God is inside you (if you beleive that) and not in a church... he doesn't require me to give 10% of my wealth... the church does though... and many churches are corrupt b/c of the power they have, and people blind faith that you have to pray in a church and give up your dough... i pass on that for now...

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[b]1 million Christians a day watch his Show.....

and why wouldn't they with this brilliance[/b]


[b]--> On his shitty TV show 700 club in Jun of 1998 he vowed that God will not permit "Gay Day" at Walt Disney World: [/b][i]"I would warn Orlando that you're right in the way of some serious hurricanes, and I don't think I'd be waving those flags in God's face if I were you, This is not a message of hate -- this is a message of redemption. But a condition like this will bring about the destruction of your nation. It'll bring about terrorist bombs; it'll bring earthquakes, tornadoes, and possibly a meteor."[/i]
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[u]As for him bashing what he sees as a Dictator:[/u]


[b]--> Pat struck up a friendship with Mobutu Sese Seko, the brutal tyrant of Zaire. He got in hot water for use of his Operation Blessing air craft (which was supposed to be for humanitarian aid) to visit his numerous diamond mines in Zaire. Then he claimed that he gave 1 million dollars to aid Rwanda, which was discovered that he actually spent the money on heavy equipment for more of his diamond mines.


--> Robertson's has lent strong support to former Liberian president Charles Taylor who is now on trial for War Crimes. Robertson has been criticized for failing to mention in his broadcasts his $8 million investment in a Liberian gold mine which he and Taylor the dictator were in cahoots on.[/b]


[color="blue"]to borrow the line:[/color]

[color="purple"]Check and Mate Motherfucker !!![/color]
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[quote name='BlackJesus' date='Aug 23 2005, 09:04 PM'][b]1 million Christians a day watch his Show.....

and why wouldn't they with this brilliance[/b]
[b]--> On his shitty TV show 700 club in Jun of 1998 he vowed that God will not permit "Gay Day" at Walt Disney World: [/b][i]"I would warn Orlando that you're right in the way of some serious hurricanes, and I don't think I'd be waving those flags in God's face if I were you, This is not a message of hate -- this is a message of redemption. But a condition like this will bring about the destruction of your nation. It'll bring about terrorist bombs; it'll bring earthquakes, tornadoes, and possibly a meteor."[/i]
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Unfortunately, not all Christians are as discerning as they should be. And honestly, I can't blame them for a little intentional blindness where he (and a few other "Christian" leaders) is concerned. There is not a whole lot of Christian news and programing out there.

And while, to some extent, I can see his point, to publicly espouse the execution of a foreign leader is just plain STUPID.
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But since I'm not a national icon, I can speak my mind and noone but a few of you will care. So here's my take. I love special ops, it's cool shit and makes really nice movies. Let's see if he can be assassinated, just for the pure sake of doing it. And let's see if we can get away with it. Maybe brainwash a lone gunman, I just watched Manchurian Candidate the other night... Or, what if we make some sort of satellite that is actually a laser beam from space? And we shoot one particular person, that would be an awesome weapon. Let's see who else we could assassinate, just for pure fun, I'm game. Maybe they can even brainwash me and I'll go do it. Then I'll go down in history, wow!!!
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[quote name='Stanley Wilson's Dealer' date='Aug 23 2005, 09:32 PM']I'd pay big money to see him fight Jerry Fallwell though.

3 x 3 minute rounds, gloves, maybe some head gear.

Who'd win? Who would God favour in the fight?
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My vote goes to the Dark Horse, Jimmy Swaggart....
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[quote name='steggyD' date='Aug 24 2005, 01:26 AM']Or, what if we make some sort of satellite that is actually a laser beam from space? And we shoot one particular person, that would be an awesome weapon. Let's see who else we could assassinate, just for pure fun, I'm game. Maybe they can even brainwash me and I'll go do it. Then I'll go down in history, wow!!!
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Or we can put him in an easily escapable, ridiculously slow death and torture device, then not watch and just assume it all works out.
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