Jump to content

Sign in to follow this  
MichaelWeston

OC options and then some

Recommended Posts

On 1/13/2019 at 8:12 PM, Jason said:

Browns hire Monken.

 

Damn.

Yeah saw that.

 

I think we are going to have to realize they are going to be a good team now.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
6 hours ago, Jamie_B said:

Yeah saw that.

 

I think we are going to have to realize they are going to be a good team now.

e971eec69b219dc63527b63ca1c988f66a37f23b

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
7 minutes ago, SF2 said:

e971eec69b219dc63527b63ca1c988f66a37f23b

 

We are going to have to contend with them, you don't go 0-2 against them and not expect that next season.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
On 1/15/2019 at 8:34 AM, Jamie_B said:

Yeah saw that.

 

I think we are going to have to realize they are going to be a good team now.

Browns also picked up Chris Jones from the CFL. Best coach we had up here, he was head coach for two teams and a defensive coordinator specialist, top shelf. Look for him to move up quickly through the NFL coaching circles. We are a passing league up here and his teams consistently were shut down styles, very innovative. Would have loves to see him land with the Bengals, but he coached with Kitchens in the past. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

We are falling way behind in the coaching hire category with having to wait for the Chiefs to be out of the post season games.

May have to wait until after the Stupor Bowl.  Not good.

Unless he has some solid possibilities in mind, could get ugly with looking at left overs.

Don't know his contacts or connection to possible hires but with hiring coaches and them

all getting in line for the draft is going to be crunch time.

 

And, yes, Cleveland is getting stronger.  Some excellent young players and now

coaches who look like they weren't recruited out of Ringling Brothers, Baunum and Bailey Enterprises.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, MichaelWeston said:

Darrell Bevell lions oc

It's getting pretty thin.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
4 minutes ago, Jason said:

It's getting pretty thin.

of "known" guys maybe...there's still a ton of young hotshot position coaches out there though.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, spicoli said:

of "known" guys maybe...there's still a ton of young hotshot position coaches out there though.

Bill Callahan as OL coach and one of the Rams guys at OC sounds perfect to me. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
5 hours ago, MichaelWeston said:

Bill Callahan as OL coach and one of the Rams guys at OC sounds perfect to me. 

Callaham coached with Kromer for 3 years in Oakland. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
14 hours ago, spicoli said:

of "known" guys maybe...there's still a ton of young hotshot position coaches out there though.

I agree but the real issue is our staff will be a month behind the power curve. It is going to be a full makeover of everything except special teams. A lot of work to do. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/nfl/bengals/2019/01/16/tracking-cincinnati-bengals-offensive-defensive-coordinator-hires/2591506002/

 

Who will Cincinnati Bengals hire as offensive and defensive coordinator? | Live updates

 
Fletcher Page, Cincinnati EnquirerPublished 11:12 a.m. ET Jan. 16, 2019 | Updated 5:04 p.m. ET Jan. 16, 2019
   

All has been quiet on the Cincinnati Bengals coordinator front since it was reported Zac Taylor would fill the head coaching position to lead the franchise into the future. 

Taylor can't officially be announced until the Los Angeles Rams are eliminated from the playoffs. But the offensive and defensive coordinator positions, vital for a 35-year-old entering his first job as head coach, can be filled. 

The latest

  • The Detroit Lions hired Darrell Bevell as offensive coordinator on Wednesday. The former Seattle Seahawks OC was reported earlier this week to be in the running to join future coach Zac Taylor's staff with the Bengals. 
  • The Bengals and offensive line coach Frank Pollackparted ways earlier this week. That leaves quarterbacks coach Alex Van Pelt and wide receivers coach Bob Bicknell as the only offensive position coaches remaining from Marvin Lewis' staff. Special teams coordinator Darrin Simmons, secondary coach Robert Livingstonand cornerbacks coach Daronte Jones also remain. Offensive coordinator Bill Lazor and special assistant Hue Jackson were among those let go last week

Offensive coordinator candidates 

New York Giants head coach Ben McAdoo adjusts his headset

New York Giants head coach Ben McAdoo adjusts his headset during the second quarter against the Kansas City Chiefs at MetLife Stadium. (Photo: Brad Penner, USA TODAY Sports)

 

Ben McAdoo

Age: 41

Current job: Unemployed this past season.

Experience: 22 years; New York Giants head coach from 2016-17; served in various roles for the Saints, Packers, 49ers and Giants.

Bengals connections: None. 

Zac Taylor connections: None.

Green Bay Packers head coach Mike Sherman watches his team during the third quarter of their game against the Detroit Lions in 2000.

Green Bay Packers head coach Mike Sherman watches his team during the third quarter of their game against the Detroit Lions in 2000. (Photo: Dale Guldan)

 

Mike Sherman

Age: 64

Current job: went 5-13 in 2018 as head coach of the Montreal Alouettes in the Canadian Football League. 

Experience: 40 years; head coach of the Green Bay Packers from 2000-05; head coach at Texas A&M from 2008-11; various roles for the Packers, Texans, Seahawks and Dolphins. 

Bengals connections: None. 

Zac Taylor connections: He's Taylor's father-in-law and hired Taylor to work as a graduate assistant on his staff at Texas A&M from 2008-11; Taylor served as assistant quarterbacks coach for the Miami Dolphins while Sherman was OC. 

NFL: Los Angeles Rams-OTA

Jun 4, 2018; Thousand Oaks, CA, USA; Los Angeles Rams pass game coordinator Shane Waldron during organized team activities at Cal Lutheran University. Mandatory Credit: Kirby Lee-USA TODAY Sports (Photo: Kirby Lee-USA TODAY Sports)

 

Shane Waldron

Age: 39

Current job: Los Angeles Rams tight ends coach/passing game coordinator. 

Experience: 13 years; served in various roles with the New England Patriots and Los Angeles Rams.

Bengals connections: None. 

Zac Taylor connections: They worked on Sean McVay's staff together the past two seasons. 

They said it: “I think Shane has given us a whole lot more than a passing game coordinator. I think the leadership that he provides, the steady force as far as just a great demeanor, a great presence, somebody that I can certainly learn from.” – Sean McVay, to Detroit Lions media in November 2018. 

Defensive coordinator candidates 

Oakland Raiders head coach Jack Del Rio looks on during the second half of an NFL football game against the Los Angeles Chargers, Sunday, Dec. 31, 2017, in Carson, Calif. (AP Photo/Kelvin Kuo)

 (Photo: The Associated Press)

 

Jack Del Rio

Age: 55

Current job: Unemployed last season. 

Experience: 20 years; Oakland Raiders head coach from 2015-17; Jacksonville Jaguars head coach 2003-11; Broncos defensive coordinator 2012-14; Panthers defensive coordinator 2002; various roles for Saints and Ravens. 

Bengals connections: None. 

Zac Taylor connections: None.

Chicago Bears head coach John Fox during the second

Chicago Bears head coach John Fox during the second half against the San Francisco 49ers at Soldier Field. (Photo: Mike DiNovo, USA TODAY Sports)

 

John Fox

Age: 63

Current job: ESPN analyst.

Experience: Chicago Bears head coach 2015-17; Denver Broncos head coach 2011-14; Carolina Panthers head coach 2002-10; Giants defensive coordinator 1997-2001; various roles for Rams, Raiders, Chargers and Stealers. 

Bengals connections: None.

Zac Taylor connections: None.

Robert Livingston (left) is now an assistant defensive

Robert Livingston (left) is now an assistant defensive backs coach for the Bengals. (Photo: File/Cara Owsley)

 

Robert Livingston

Age: 33

Current job: Cincinnati Bengals safeties coach.

Experience: four years; various roles for the Bengals.

Bengals connections: served as a Bengals scout from 2012-14; special teams assistant coach, defensive quality control coach in 2015; assistant defensive backs coach in 2016; secondary coach 2017-18.  

Zac Taylor connections: None.

Minnesota Vikings head coach Leslie Frazier watches

Minnesota Vikings head coach Leslie Frazier watches as his team plays the Philadelphia Eagles at Mall of America Field at H.H.H. Metrodome in December of 2013. (Photo: Bruce Kluckhohn-USA TODAY Sports)

 

Leslie Frazier

Age: 59

Current job: Buffalo Bills defensive coordinator. 

Experience: 30 years; Minnesota Vikings head coach from 2011-13; Buccaneers, Bills, Colts, Bengals defensive coordinator; various roles for the Eagles and Ravens. 

Bengals connections: served as Bengals defensive coordinator from 2003-04. 

Zac Taylor connections: None. 

Green Bay Packers defensive coordinator Dom Capers

Green Bay Packers defensive coordinator Dom Capers is shown before their game against the Detroit Lions on Dec. 31, 2017, at Ford Field in Detroit. (Photo: Mark Hoffman/Milwaukee Journal Sentinel)

 

Dom Capers

Age: 68

Current job: Unemployed last season. 

Experience: 46 years; Carolina Panthers head coach 1995-98; Houston Texans head coach 2002-05; Packers defensive coordinator 2009-17; various roles for Patriots, Dolphins, Jaguars, Stealers and Saints. 

Bengals connections: Served as Pittsburgh Stealers defensive coordinator from 1992-94. 

Zac Taylor connections: None. 

FILE - In this June 2017 file photo, John Pagano of the Oakland Raiders NFL football team poses for a photo. The Raiders play the Denver Broncos this week. Raiders coach Jack Del Rio fired defensive coordinator Ken Norton Jr. and gave the play-calling duties to assistant Pagano in hopes that the new leadership will lead to a more aggressive, opportunistic defense. (AP Photo/File)

 (Photo: The Associated Press)

 

John Pagano

Age: 51

Current job: Houston Texans senior defensive assistant/outside linebackers.

Experience: 29 years; defensive coordinator for Raiders, Chargers; various roles for Saints, Colts, Chargers and Texans. 

Bengals connections: None. 

Zac Taylor connections: None. 

Rex Ryan went 65-68 in eight combined years with the

Rex Ryan went 65-68 in eight combined years with the Bills and Jets. (Photo: Mark Konezny, USA TODAY Sports)

Rex Ryan

Age: 56

Current job: ESPN analyst. 

Experience: 30 years; New York Jets head coach 2009-14; Buffalo Bills head coach 2015-16; Ravens defensive coordinator; various roles for Ravens, Cardinals, Kansas State, Oklahoma and UC. 

Bengals connections: University of Cincinnati defensive coordinator from 1996-97. 

Zac Taylor connections: None. 

In this June 8, 2017, file photo, New Orleans Saints

In this June 8, 2017, file photo, New Orleans Saints linebackers coach Mike Nolan walks on the field during NFL football practice in Metairie. Nolan, who has been coaching in the NFL since 1987, is in his first year as New Orleans’ linebackers coach. He is trying to help improve a Saints defense that ranked 27th last season. (Photo: AP)

 

Mike Nolan

Age: 59

Current job: New Orleans Saints linebackers coach. 

Experience: 39 years; San Francisco 49ers head coach from 2005-08; defensive coordinator for the Broncos, Giants, Redskins, Jets, Ravens, Dolphins, Falcons; linebackers coach for Broncos, Chargers and Saints. 

Bengals connections: None. 

Zac Taylor connections: None. 

CONNECTTWEETLINKEDINCOMMENTEMAIL

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I'm not even sure they're going to hire a true OC because I can't imagine that Zac won't be calling the plays himself.....I would expect to see passing game coordinator and running game coordinator much like they do in LA.

Likely at least one of those guys will come from the Rams staff and I would expect his brother to be on staff in some capacity as well.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
14 hours ago, spicoli said:

of "known" guys maybe...there's still a ton of young hotshot position coaches out there though.

True,  but given young hotshot status of the head coach,  I was kind of hoping he'd be able to get some guys with a more padded resume on the staff. I'd feel much better if they were able to lure Sherman away for the CFL for either the OC or OL positions. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Browns forming a hell of a coaching staff.  Curious to see how well they do this year.  Hired GB OL coach...James Campen.

 

I hope we assemble and equally talented staff mixed with experience and youth.  I saw Colts let their OL coach go.  He did a heck of a job this year with their line.  I wouldn't mind going after him.... Dave DeGuglielmo...Guge.

 

https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/nfl/colts/2019/01/16/indianapolis-colts-quenton-nelson-center-ryan-kelly-dave-deguglielmo-fired-frank-reich/2594645002/

 

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 hours ago, Girevik said:

True,  but given young hotshot status of the head coach,  I was kind of hoping he'd be able to get some guys with a more padded resume on the staff. I'd feel much better if they were able to lure Sherman away for the CFL for either the OC or OL positions. 

I think they'll probably hire a veteran DC and will likely have Callahan as the OL coach.

Doubt we see a OC in the traditional sense though since it's likely Taylor will be doing the play calling. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
On 1/11/2019 at 12:45 PM, MichaelWeston said:

Filling out the coaching Group. The biggest questions on offense are probably QB and WR coach, both of which are commonly filled with up and coming future OC types. We seem to have capable guys there already. I would bet there are guys in those spots with ex OC experience, but that's hard to project without knowing how the OC carousel lands. 

 

OC: Aaron Kromer-Rams: I would be fine with any of Kromer, Fisch, Waldron or Taylor. This is Zac's offense and any of those 4 I think would be a good argument to run that offense. Kromer probably knows more about the Run than Zac does and it would be a good blend. Loved Jamie's argument about him. 

 

Senior Offensive Analyst(?) AHC: Bill Callahan. Getting veterans around Zac will be especially important and Callahan has a solid coaching resume and was Zac's coach at Nebraska. He also coached with Frank Pollack in Dallas. Seems like an ideal fit. 

 

QB: Alex Van Pelt: I don't have any thing against Van Pelt but I don't really think he lands here. I think this could be Press, it could be guys like Darrell Bevell or John DeFelipo if they don't get jobs elsewhere. Both have ties to Zac's mentors. 

 

RB: Jeff Nixon: Nixon is currently the Co-OC and RB coach for Auburn. I consider this a promotion. He might not. He coached with Zac for years in Miami.

https://baylorbears.com/coaches.aspx?rc=81&path=football. Stump Mitchell coached with Mike Sherman on the Seahawks and was on the fired staff in NYJ last year. He is a secondary option. 

 

WR: Ben Johnson:  Johnson was Taylor's assistant QB coach for the Dolphins when he was there and was the WR coach for Miami last year. Keeping Bicknell makes some sense. The top of the WR unit looks great. I am not sure we have seen the development from the bottom. The WR job seems to be one given to up and comers and future OC's. I don't know that, that is what Johnson is. https://www.miamidolphins.com/team/coaches-roster/ben-johnson

 

TE:Tony Sparano Jr: Currently the Jax assistant OL coach. Sparano's father had ties to one of his mentors but I can't remember which one. Only 32, seems like an up and comer. 

 

OL: Frank Pollack: I like him and like him even more with 

 

An update with Bicknell staying and Pollack leaving

 

OC: Aaron Kromer-Rams: I would be fine with any of Kromer, Fisch, Waldron or Taylor. This is Zac's offense and any of those 4 I think would be a good argument to run that offense. Kromer probably knows more about the Run than Zac does and it would be a good blend. Loved Jamie's argument about him. 

QB: Alex Van Pelt: I don't have any thing against Van Pelt but I don't really think he lands here. I think this could be Press, it could be guys like Darrell Bevell or John DeFelipo if they don't get jobs elsewhere. Both have ties to Zac's mentors. 

 

RB: Jeff Nixon: Nixon is currently the Co-OC and RB coach for Auburn. I consider this a promotion. He might not. He coached with Zac for years in Miami.

https://baylorbears.com/coaches.aspx?rc=81&path=football. Stump Mitchell coached with Mike Sherman on the Seahawks and was on the fired staff in NYJ last year. He is a secondary option. 

 

WR: Bob Bicknell: Looks like he is sticking around

 

Assistant WR : Ben Johnson:  Johnson was Taylor's assistant QB coach for the Dolphins when he was there and was the WR coach for Miami last year. Keeping Bicknell makes some sense. The top of the WR unit looks great. I am not sure we have seen the development from the bottom. The WR job seems to be one given to up and comers and future OC's. I don't know that, that is what Johnson is. https://www.miamidolphins.com/team/coaches-roster/ben-johnson

 

TE:Tony Sparano Jr: Currently the Jax assistant OL coach. Sparano's father had ties to one of his mentors but I can't remember which one. Only 32, seems like an up and comer. 

 

OL AHC: Bill Callahan. Getting veterans around Zac will be especially important and Callahan has a solid coaching resume and was Zac's coach at Nebraska. He also coached with Frank Pollack in Dallas. Seems like an ideal fit. 

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

"This is Zac's offense..."

 

Wait a minute--doesn't McVay run the offense? What about the Passing Game Coordinator, Run Game Coordinator?  Do all 3 shout into McVay's headphone which plays to run?     

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, bigboi said:

scott linehan just became available,he and bill callahan are good friends.

Any idea on what offense he runs etc?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, MichaelWeston said:

Any idea on what offense he runs etc?

Shitty and inconsistent.  Expect for one year.

 

2018 343.8 22nd
2017 331.9 14th
2016 376.7 5th
2015 335.1 22nd

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
Sign in to follow this  

Go-Bengals.com on Facebook

Go-Bengals.com on Twitter

×