Jason Posted July 23, 2019 Report Share Posted July 23, 2019 Per Twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicoli Posted July 23, 2019 Report Share Posted July 23, 2019 Cheap basserts!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted July 23, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2019 The other good news is it’s not too big to hinder re-signing AJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicoli Posted July 23, 2019 Report Share Posted July 23, 2019 Wouldn't be surprised to see a deal for AJ in place by the first preseason game......which is ONLY 15 DAYS AWAY! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|High School Harry| Posted July 23, 2019 Report Share Posted July 23, 2019 At last. Some GOOD news for a change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|SF2| Posted July 23, 2019 Report Share Posted July 23, 2019 Goodbye AJ Green or Andy Dalton. Unless the Bengals plan on spending $35 mil a year at the WR position and Dalton signs a huge hometown discount I can't see keeping both. We are talking around $55 to $60 mil for a tier 2 to 3 QB and the wide receivers I am guessing, if both come back next year. Tags for next year around $17.5 mil at WR and $25mil at QB. I guess it is doable if your QB is on a rookie contract like KC or Cleveland. Shits about to get interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Montana Bengal| Posted July 23, 2019 Report Share Posted July 23, 2019 16 minutes ago, SF2 said: Goodbye AJ Green or Andy Dalton. Unless the Bengals plan on spending $35 mil a year at the WR position and Dalton signs a huge hometown discount I can't see keeping both. We are talking around $55 to $60 mil for a tier 2 to 3 QB and the wide receivers I am guessing, if both come back next year. Tags for next year around $17.5 mil at WR and $25mil at QB. I guess it is doable if your QB is on a rookie contract like KC or Cleveland. Shits about to get interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|SF2| Posted July 23, 2019 Report Share Posted July 23, 2019 6 minutes ago, Montana Bengal said: Dalton's seat just got to lava temperature. Keep in mind, Taylor came from the QB rookie contract school of winning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted July 23, 2019 Report Share Posted July 23, 2019 Good news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|SF2| Posted July 23, 2019 Report Share Posted July 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, Jamie_B said: Good news. I agree, Boyd is a damn good receiver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted July 23, 2019 Report Share Posted July 23, 2019 1 minute ago, SF2 said: I agree, Boyd is a damn good receiver. Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Treehorn Posted July 23, 2019 Report Share Posted July 23, 2019 Seems like a good deal for both sides and now we don't have to worry about going through the same crap when we lost Marvin Jones. I'll take it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Tigre Posted July 23, 2019 Report Share Posted July 23, 2019 1 hour ago, SF2 said: Dalton's seat just got to lava temperature. Keep in mind, Taylor came from the QB rookie contract school of winning. He came from the tag-along-with-McVay school of QB development. Let me guess: you are either in favor of tank-a-palooza--which guarantees nothing (not even St. Tua), the 4th round OTA phenom, or just wishing to prove yourself 50% correct on predictions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|SF2| Posted July 23, 2019 Report Share Posted July 23, 2019 25 minutes ago, Le Tigre said: He came from the tag-along-with-McVay school of QB development. Let me guess: you are either in favor of tank-a-palooza--which guarantees nothing (not even St. Tua), the 4th round OTA phenom, or just wishing to prove yourself 50% correct on predictions? Actually, I have no idea what to do. If Dalton sucked or was a top 10 QB this would be easier. The surround him with talent might work if that talent included o lineman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griever Posted July 23, 2019 Report Share Posted July 23, 2019 A rising star, good work Bengals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Tigre Posted July 23, 2019 Report Share Posted July 23, 2019 11 minutes ago, SF2 said: Actually, I have no idea what to do. If Dalton sucked or was a top 10 QB this would be easier. The surround him with talent might work if that talent included o lineman. Fair dinkum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|kennethmw| Posted July 23, 2019 Report Share Posted July 23, 2019 4 hours ago, SF2 said: Goodbye AJ Green or Andy Dalton. Unless the Bengals plan on spending $35 mil a year at the WR position and Dalton signs a huge hometown discount I can't see keeping both. We are talking around $55 to $60 mil for a tier 2 to 3 QB and the wide receivers I am guessing, if both come back next year. Tags for next year around $17.5 mil at WR and $25mil at QB. I guess it is doable if your QB is on a rookie contract like KC or Cleveland. Shits about to get interesting It's easily doable. Boyd was only making a mil this year, so it's a 5 yr/44 mill deal. Even if you pay AJ and Andy twenty, you're at 48 mill. That only a Quarter of the cap. And my guess is that they structure it so that it's only about 38-40 for all three at any one time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky151 Posted July 23, 2019 Report Share Posted July 23, 2019 This is a good deal. Boyd is better than Sterling Shepard, the contract he was using as a comp. The team can easily afford Boyd, AJ, and Dalton if they wish. AJ is on the downside of his career and not really in line for a big raise. Neither is Dalton. Green might get 16-17 mil avg on his new deal and Dalton about 20. Green can easily be tagged for 2020 if need be. Dalton certainly isn't worth the QB tag and can be replaced. Passing on better QBs than Dalton to take Ross or Williams is what is holding the Bengals back. If we had Mahomes or Watson or Haskins, we'd be much better off, not just in cap terms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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fluhartz Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 good extension Boyd is a hell of a player and should only get better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmoothD Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 As someone mentioned, it is rare that you find a very productive no. 2 receiver, who is willing to say with his current team, in the same role, rather than become a No. 1 and receive more money somewhere else. We have seen in the pass that this normally doesn't pan out. Housh, Marvin Jones, Dwayne Bowe, and Mike Wallace, are prime examples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cricket Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 Since this franchise is so snake-bitten (granted some of it is self-inflicted), the probability of Tyler Boyd ending up on IR just went up by a factor of 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|SF2| Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 20 hours ago, kennethmw said: It's easily doable. Boyd was only making a mil this year, so it's a 5 yr/44 mill deal. Even if you pay AJ and Andy twenty, you're at 48 mill. That only a Quarter of the cap. And my guess is that they structure it so that it's only about 38-40 for all three at any one time. I was looking more at next year. Don't forget that we have a #9 pick $4.67mil a year guaranteed guy on our roster as well. Boyd's contract with Green getting signed at a reasonable level would mean the Bengals would be spending at the top of the league next year cap wise. Figure $11 for Boyd, $18 for Green, $5.44 for Ross (guaranteed), Errickson and so on. Looking $38 mil at WR alone. So you gotta start thinking about what to do at QB. Based on early reports (yeah, way early) this Finley guy sounds like a dog. Keep in mind, I never heard anyone say Dalton looked bad once OTAs started, quite the contrary. So it seems we don't have a backup plan yet for Dalton in a contract season. Tagging him next year would cost probably $26mil. It seems like the obvious choice if you want him around another year unless he simply has a blow out or blow chunks season. Its really a catch 22. Give Dalton time to throw the ball and he a good QB. Even behind the crap lines the last 2 years he still had a rating in the high 80s. No rookie would have survived the last 2 years and played as well as Andy did IMHO. Look at the top rated offensive lines (June 28, 2019) in the league and behind them are very successful QBs in most cases. Saints, Patriots, Stealers, Colts, Packers and Rams. http://thehuddle.com/2019/06/28/2019-offensive-line-rankings/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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