Kochman Posted August 16, 2019 Report Share Posted August 16, 2019 Bengals OG Christian Westerman is retiring from the NFL after three seasons. It's the second offensive lineman the Bengals have lost to retirement with Clint Boling forced out due to health issues. Westerman was in the mix to start, so this is a blow for Cincy. John Jerry and Michael Jordan will compete opposite RG John Miller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kochman Posted August 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2019 That sucks I was pulling for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dub Posted August 16, 2019 Report Share Posted August 16, 2019 oof.. can't help but feel like   Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kochman Posted August 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2019 https://www.bengals.com/news/westerman-placed-on-exempt-left-squad   The Bengals today placed G Christian Westerman on the Exempt/Left Squad list. Westerman, a fourth-year player, originally was a fifth-round draft pick of the Bengals in 2016. He has played in 16 career games, with two starts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kochman Posted August 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2019 1 minute ago, T-Dub said: oof.. can't help but feel like     I think the boat sank a few years back. So that ship sailed.🙈 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Numbers| Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 There is a wee bit more to this story than is being reported... Just a hunch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|SF2| Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 1 hour ago, T-Dub said: oof.. can't help but feel like   Meh, guy was a borderline player on a terrible offensive line. Writing was on the walll.  Good for him and good luck.  Wasn’t jumping ship, was getting on with his life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Montana Bengal| Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 36 minutes ago, Numbers said: There is a wee bit more to this story than is being reported... Just a hunch.  hunch or there is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 He was a backup...dont know if he was a headcase or just wasnt good enough on run blocking (forget the 34 bench reps").. Heard he didnt want to carry 300 lbs on his frame anymore and was worried bout concussions .linemen get headbanged alot.. Good luck to him... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Tigre Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 Guy was top shelf everywhere he was: consensus HS all-American...cream of the PAC 12 crop at guard. Never a head case/problem anywhere. His one mistake was coming here...where recently all linemen come to die.  I have a feeling that the NFL has not heard the last of Christian Westerman. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Numbers| Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Montana Bengal said:  hunch or there is? I can't say. ... and no, that's not a convenient excuse. 34 minutes ago, Le Tigre said: Guy was top shelf everywhere he was: consensus HS all-American...cream of the PAC 12 crop at guard. Never a head case/problem anywhere. His one mistake was coming here...where recently all linemen come to die.  I have a feeling that the NFL has not heard the last of Christian Westerman. Don't forget his grades while in the NFL. However, there is always more than grades while playing for the Bengals which could qualify for the Jerry Springer show at times... This could be the last we hear from him.  However, if someone really wanted a real answer they would ask a "consultant.". Maybe one that's been around a "few" years... ...and that is only "IF" Son of Paul has not gagged him.  This is not a Miami thing either as someone has already asked me. Although, there were several connections to them, including his mother. Note: Coaches tend to copy other people's notes on players... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dub Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 2 hours ago, Numbers said: I can't say. ... and no, that's not a convenient excuse. Don't forget his grades while in the NFL. However, there is always more than grades while playing for the Bengals which could qualify for the Jerry Springer show at times... This could be the last we hear from him.  However, if someone really wanted a real answer they would ask a "consultant.". Maybe one that's been around a "few" years... ...and that is only "IF" Son of Paul has not gagged him.  This is not a Miami thing either as someone has already asked me. Although, there were several connections to them, including his mother. Note: Coaches tend to copy other people's notes on players...   So did OL coach Turner have someone threaten to rape his family, too?  Only the highest of standards for the Bengals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|SF2| Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 5 hours ago, Le Tigre said: Guy was top shelf everywhere he was: consensus HS all-American...cream of the PAC 12 crop at guard. Never a head case/problem anywhere. His one mistake was coming here...where recently all linemen come to die.  I have a feeling that the NFL has not heard the last of Christian Westerman. He was a 5th round pick.  That means Mr Top shelf was passed by every team at least 4 times before ending up in Cincy.  He was a borderline backup on the perhaps the worst o line in the NFL. He and AJ McCarron were robbed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Tigre Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 Whatever you say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Tigre Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 8 hours ago, Numbers said: I can't say. ... and no, that's not a convenient excuse. Don't forget his grades while in the NFL. However, there is always more than grades while playing for the Bengals which could qualify for the Jerry Springer show at times... This could be the last we hear from him.  However, if someone really wanted a real answer they would ask a "consultant.". Maybe one that's been around a "few" years... ...and that is only "IF" Son of Paul has not gagged him.  This is not a Miami thing either as someone has already asked me. Although, there were several connections to them, including his mother. Note: Coaches tend to copy other people's notes on players... Although your irony is detected, I will dutifully object to dismissing the Bully's role in all of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschooler Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 Quitter! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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|High School Harry| Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 13 hours ago, Numbers said: There is a wee bit more to this story than is being reported... Just a hunch. I always thought he was victimized by Marvin's patented favoritism of playing and continuing to play poorer players as if to prove a point. I can't even recall the name of the ass hat guard Marv played forever while CW sat as if Marv was trying to prove a point with the loser that he, Marv, was right, as always and the guy was going to come around and Marv could say "I told you so". The team, as well as CW, suffered because of Marv's massive ego. What a fucking crime. CW looked good when he was in there. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatternMaster Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 1 hour ago, High School Harry said: I always thought he was victimized by Marvin's patented favoritism of playing and continuing to play poorer players as if to prove a point. I can't even recall the name of the ass hat guard Marv played forever while CW sat as if Marv was trying to prove a point with the loser that he, Marv, was right, as always and the guy was going to come around and Marv could say "I told you so". The team, as well as CW, suffered because of Marv's massive ego. What a fucking crime. CW looked good when he was in there. Lol....Marvin has nothing to do with Westerman decision, you're acting like he's a future HOF player. Dude was 5th round pick that couldn't beat out Alex Redmond and countless other stiffs for a starting gig. How many teams are beating down the door to acquire him via trade? 3 different NFL line coaches have decided to not start him....  I was wondering how long it was going to take before someone blamed Marvin Lewis for this and here it is.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatternMaster Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 People on here acting like Westerman is the victim of some grand conspiracy to stifle his development and keep him off the field, like he's John Conner and the Bengals oline coaches are various iterations of the Terminator sent to destroy him are hilarious at best seemed detected from reality in this situation.   1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatternMaster Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 15 hours ago, Le Tigre said: Guy was top shelf everywhere he was: consensus HS all-American...cream of the PAC 12 crop at guard. Never a head case/problem anywhere. His one mistake was coming here...where recently all linemen come to die.  I have a feeling that the NFL has not heard the last of Christian Westerman.  Consensus HS All American doesn't guarantee you an starting NFL gig, I know you know that. Cream of the PAC 12 crop is a stretch, he made 2nd All PAC 12 once.  If anyone's heart isn't in it, it's Westerman, not Ross. Westerman was only playing because his was trying to please the old man, he'd probably be doing something else if it was up to him and that is what he's doing.  Good for him, he's living his life and not trying to please others..#YOLO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Tigre Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 Anything you say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmoothD Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 Wonder if this had to do anything with the new OL coach. Remember, dude is old school and a hard ass if I'm not mistaken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Numbers| Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 A highly rated Guard (with high marks from PFF) is not going to simply be ignored by other teams. He is still under contract from the Bengals, therefore teams are not beating down the door but are possibly in contact with management. There are only a handful of reasons for not starting an individual that by all other observations and grades is a starting Guard. Note: We're not talking about grades from self professed experts on this board but verifiable stats from recognized experts.  For those that believe that the NFL is always based upon merit have not been paying attention. Blackballing exists whether a fan is too blind to admit it or not.  Giving up a little over 700 thousand should make a person go hmmm...  As LeTigre would state, "Anything you say..." to which I respond, "Things a consultant might say..."  1. I am not at liberty to say. 2. This is above your paygrade. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Numbers| Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 Another option besides asking a current Bengals consultant is asking a former Bengals Oline coach who loves to talk about other players on his Twitter feed. https://twitter.com/CoachPaulAlex  You might still get a biased opinion because one replaced the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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