|High School Harry| Posted September 24, 2019 Report Share Posted September 24, 2019 The Stealers already have an excuse for when we beat the shit out of them Monday night that they were hampered and would have won if Ben was not out with Rapist Elbow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PatternMaster Posted September 24, 2019 Report Share Posted September 24, 2019 7 hours ago, Bleeds Orange said: I assume he had a hand in the roster that Taylor inherited. Regardless, I get the feeling he left behind a dysfunctional culture in the locker room and tolerated too much, but I wasn't there, so I'm just shooting from the hip. I just don't see how he could be the head coach for 16 years and not be held to some accountability for the embers still smoldering in the dumpster. So why not include Duke Tobin, the guy who is charge of player personnel, or does he not bear any responsibility for this dumpster fire? Did Marvin not resign Whit or Zeitler? Did he cut Burfict or draft only 1 LB and then refuse to play him? The organization sold everyone it could that it was a New Dey, the Marvin Lewis era was over and it's all unicorns and rainbows from here on out. The front office could have turned over roster and brought in new players, but did the exact opposite. They brought back the same team except for a few draft picks that rarely play. Marvin getting blamed for Taylor, Tobin, and the Brown family's failures is just dumb. Marvin made plenty of mistakes while he was here, but he also did some positive things and ultimately he has been gone for 8 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|SF2| Posted September 24, 2019 Report Share Posted September 24, 2019 20 minutes ago, PatternMaster said: So why not include Duke Tobin, the guy who is charge of player personnel, or does he not bear any responsibility for this dumpster fire? Did Marvin not resign Whit or Zeitler? Did he cut Burfict or draft only 1 LB and then refuse to play him? The organization sold everyone it could that it was a New Dey, the Marvin Lewis era was over and it's all unicorns and rainbows from here on out. The front office could have turned over roster and brought in new players, but did the exact opposite. They brought back the same team except for a few draft picks that rarely play. Marvin getting blamed for Taylor, Tobin, and the Brown family's failures is just dumb. Marvin made plenty of mistakes while he was here, but he also did some positive things and ultimately he has been gone for 8 months. I agree with this. At the end of the day the GM and his crew are responsible for evaluating current players, determining the strengths and weaknesses and mapping out a strategy to keep the good, get rid of the bad and find BETTER replacements. Certainly the coaching staff may have some input but the ultimate responsibility for acting is with the GM and for most clubs this is necessary and preferred. The GM and owners on most clubs are not on the sideline hanging out with the players. It was one of the reasons it took the Saints so long to become any good. Tom Benson owned the team and loved hanging with the players. This made it difficult to get rid of borderline players he was friends with. It wasn't until Micky Loomis became the GM that the team began to compete. Everyone knew from player to agent that he ran the show and Benson no longer made personnel decisions. Loomis is NOT buddy buddy with the players at all. The Browns are far too attached to players to make sound personnel decisions and it is hard to believe Tobin has the ability to make wholesale changes to the roster. When you consider he lacks a full scouting department it should not come as a surprise. Blaming Taylor or even Marvin for the current roster is a stretch. The lack of a truly detached GM with the power to hire and fire is what has hurt this team for 30 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_C_Deadpeople Posted September 24, 2019 Report Share Posted September 24, 2019 2 hours ago, oldschooler said: What that indicates is that players, as a rule, WANT to win and be accountable and achieve great things as a team. This organization simply can't comply, it is not built to win so frustration builds and that leads to apathy even to the most well intentioned players and coaches. Just imagine right now the conversations about the OL and LB's in the inner circle. Mikey saying 'he sees improvement' or "we have had unfortunate injuries" or something like that and someone like ZT pretty much saying the OL is garbage. Over time here we will see if Zac has the balls to stand up for better players or just tow the line like Merv ended up doing. Mikey always wins in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooky Posted September 24, 2019 Report Share Posted September 24, 2019 7 hours ago, High School Harry said: The Stealers already have an excuse for when we beat the shit out of them Monday night that they were hampered and would have won if Ben was not out with Rapist Elbow. Hey! He almost died. Again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|High School Harry| Posted September 25, 2019 Report Share Posted September 25, 2019 Sports Report: Stealers trading for Seahawks TE Nick Vannett in wake of Vance McDonald injury The Pittsburgh Stealers are finalizing a trade with the Seattle Seahawks for tight end Nick Vannett, ESPN’s Adam Schefter reports. NFL Network’s Tom Pellisero reports that the Stealers are giving up a fifth-round pick in the 2020 draft in the deal. Starting Stealers tight end Vance McDonald left Sunday’s loss to the San Francisco 49ers with a shoulder injury and was seen at Stealers facilities on Tuesday with his arm in a sling. :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Fuck him, too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|SF2| Posted September 25, 2019 Report Share Posted September 25, 2019 3 hours ago, High School Harry said: Sports Report: Stealers trading for Seahawks TE Nick Vannett in wake of Vance McDonald injury The Pittsburgh Stealers are finalizing a trade with the Seattle Seahawks for tight end Nick Vannett, ESPN’s Adam Schefter reports. NFL Network’s Tom Pellisero reports that the Stealers are giving up a fifth-round pick in the 2020 draft in the deal. Starting Stealers tight end Vance McDonald left Sunday’s loss to the San Francisco 49ers with a shoulder injury and was seen at Stealers facilities on Tuesday with his arm in a sling. :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Fuck him, too Meanwhile in Cincy Duke Tobin traded 20 old towels to the Dolphins for two large packets of original flavored Gatorade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saphead Posted September 25, 2019 Report Share Posted September 25, 2019 Will those dumb inbred fucks still say "Heeeeeeeeeth" every time he catches a pass? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|High School Harry| Posted September 25, 2019 Report Share Posted September 25, 2019 1 hour ago, saphead said: Will those dumb inbred fucks still say "Heeeeeeeeeth" every time he catches a pass? Jar Jar Binks Shrimper will pull out and play with his pee pee to celebrate every time he makes a catch. Or even if he doesn't make a catch or is not targeted or on the sideline when the D is on the field. He is to the Stealers what Chuckie was is to the "Sons of Anarchy" and "Myans", a guy who suffers from CMD (Compulsive Masturbation Disorder), Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snarkster Posted September 25, 2019 Report Share Posted September 25, 2019 The Suck Bowl. Aptly sponsored by Permanti Brothers & Skyline Chili. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted September 25, 2019 Report Share Posted September 25, 2019 23 hours ago, Hooky said: Hey! He almost died. Again. They can excuse all they want.. Only thing matters is who wins.. No would couda shouda by Either team.. I predict Cincy will prevail 20-17 unless Bad Andy is present Sunday.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschooler Posted September 25, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2019 Teryl Austin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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|SF2| Posted September 25, 2019 Report Share Posted September 25, 2019 1 hour ago, claptonrocks said: They can excuse all they want.. Only thing matters is who wins.. No would couda shouda by Either team.. I predict Cincy will prevail 20-17 unless Bad Andy is present Sunday.... No worries about Bad Andy being there Sunday, the game is on Monday Night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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|Bunghole| Posted September 25, 2019 Report Share Posted September 25, 2019 On 9/23/2019 at 12:36 PM, fluhartz said: it was probably the shoes.. I mean did you know that he uses some old pair of shoes they don't make anymore., seriously did they mention it even once?!?!?!?!?! And AB's helmet, since he's not going to be needing it anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted September 25, 2019 Report Share Posted September 25, 2019 1 hour ago, SF2 said: No worries about Bad Andy being there Sunday, the game is on Monday Night. Oh i didnt see that tks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dub Posted September 25, 2019 Report Share Posted September 25, 2019 1 hour ago, oldschooler said: Good, good. Why should we be the only team to dig ourselves into a hole it will take years to climb out of? At least we will have draft picks., to spend on guys with huge red flags we will choose to ignore, as is tradition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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