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2 hours ago, T-Dub said:

 

Let's not forget Pumpkin & her pet Troy.  One or both were the brain trust behind lowballing their franchise LT. The team has gotten considerably worse in the years since their alleged changing of the guard.  3x the nepotism, still 0-fer in the postseason.

What's fucked is the brain trust has no issue paying Pacman jr Dre $11 million a year or Cordy Glenn $10 million.

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Bengals circle wagons after 0-3 start; what worked/didn't in Buffalo; whose stock up/down


by Joe Kay, AP Sports Writer

Monday, September 23rd 2019
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Buffalo Bills cornerback Tre'Davious White (27) celebrates after intercepting a pass during the second half of an NFL football game against the Cincinnati Bengals, Sunday, Sept. 22, 2019, in Orchard Park, N.Y. The Bills won 21-17. (AP Photo/John Munson)
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CINCINNATI (AP) - Still winless as September winds down.

The Bengals are off to another one of their season-scuttling starts, this time under a new coach.

They were pushed around in the first half, pulled off a big rally for a late lead, then frittered it away in the closing minutes for a 21-17 loss in Buffalo .

Zac Taylor is 0-3 in his first year as head coach, matching Marvin Lewis' start when he was hired in 2003. The Bengals have never reached the playoffs after opening a season 0-3.

As September fades, it's already circle-the-wagons time. Taylor admonished his team so loudly after the game that his voice carried outside the locker room. He told his players that the "wolves" were coming — fans and media ready to write the team off — and a big game is up next, one that could change their trajectory.

"Thank God we play 16 games and not three because it would be a long year, but we have 13 more to go and we're going to be headed in the right direction and everyone in that locker room believes it and there's no doubt about it," Taylor said.

Through the first three games, they've lurched from self-destruction to stretches of impressive performance, but they've been unable to do things right long enough to get a win, especially at the end of games.

"You see the potential," safety Jessie Bates III said.

For now, everyone sees the record.

WHAT'S WORKING: The defense was flattened during a 41-17 loss to San Francisco at Paul Brown Stadium. It was much better a week later, getting a fumble and an interception that gave Cincinnati a chance for its late rally to a 17-14 lead. The defense hung in there despite being on the field for 23 minutes in the first half because the offense managed only one first down.

"We put them in a bind and fortunately they held up long enough for us to stick in that game," Taylor said.

The worn-down defense gave up a 78-yard touchdown drive in the closing minutes as Buffalo pulled it out.

WHAT NEEDS HELP: Penalties were a huge issue again. They were penalized seven times in the first half as the Bills pulled ahead 14-0. A penalty for too many men on the field put the Bills in position to go for a 2-point conversion. A holding penalty wiped out a touchdown on a kickoff return. The offense has put itself in poor down-and-distance situations in all three games.

STOCK UP: Four days after promising that he was going to re-emerge, running back Joe Mixon was a key part of the offense. He came into the game averaging only 1.6 yards per carry. In Buffalo, he ran for 61 yards, averaging 4.1 per carry, and caught two passes for 34 yards and a touchdown — not a great game, but a move in the right direction.

STOCK DOWN: Receiver John Ross III topped 100 yards receiving in each of the two first games. In Buffalo, he dropped a pass and fumbled in the first half. Ross was targeted six times and finished with two catches for 22 yards.

INJURED: Taylor said receiver A.J. Green isn't ready to return to practice and won't play in Pittsburgh. Green is recovering from an ankle injury suffered the first practice of training camp. He's expected back sometime in the season's first half.

KEY NUMBER:

0 — The number of times the Bengals have made the playoffs or even managed a winning record after starting 0-3. It's the 15th time in the Bengals' 52 seasons that they've dropped their first three games.

"Playoffs are so far down the road that we just need to win a game, and it starts this week with our best foot forward and going to get one," Taylor said.

NEXT STEPS: The next step is a doozy. The Bengals play the team that has dominated them, on the stage where they've been at their worst. They and the Stealers are 0-6 combined heading into their Monday night game at Heinz Field. The Bengals have lost eight straight and 11 of 12 against their AFC North rival, with the only win coming at Heinz Field in 2015. The Bengals are 6-15 in prime-time games since 2011, when Andy Dalton was a rookie, including 2-5 on Monday night.

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4 hours ago, Bleeds Orange said:

Marv only had three 0-3 starts, but he was no stranger to early-season shittiness.  Actually, he brought some late-season shittiness from time-to-time, as well, especially in January.

 

2003:  0-3 and 1-4

2004:  1-4 and 2-5

2007:  1-4 and 2-6

2008:  0-8 and 1-11-1

2010:  2-11

2017:  0-3

 

Taylor may fall out of favor with some or even many this season, but any woes this franchise currently has are on Marvin and MB.  

How is it on Marvin Lewis? 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Le Tigre said:

Isn't everything? 

Well now that is a new day, maybe Duke Tobin and Mike Brown can be held accountable for their decisions....maybe. 

 

I find it very interesting that some people want to lay all of the past and current failures and shortcomings at Marvin's feet and credit Taylor for inventing the forward pass. 

 

All of these favorable comparisons to this current regime vs the previous when the previous had more success than anyone that is currently involved with the franchise is ridiculous at best. 

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3 hours ago, PatternMaster said:

How is it on Marvin Lewis? 

 

 

I assume he had a hand in the roster that Taylor inherited.  Regardless, I get the feeling he left behind a dysfunctional culture in the locker room and tolerated too much, but I wasn't there, so I'm just shooting from the hip.  I just don't see how he could be the head coach for 16 years and not be held to some accountability for the embers still smoldering in the dumpster.

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14 hours ago, ArmyBengal said:

watching Mason be an average QB with the burg is watching a copy of the cats with AD. With an average or worse line, can't quite get it done.  I saw a number of times he took a sack that the big lumix would've fought through and then hit AB for 25 yards.  The current rules of the NLF make the import of QB play so disproportionate to the rest of the team. And much as I had to hate on the big rapist, he was really annoyingly good.

 

 

Fixt.

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8 hours ago, PatternMaster said:

Well now that is a new day, maybe Duke Tobin and Mike Brown can be held accountable for their decisions....maybe. 

 

I find it very interesting that some people want to lay all of the past and current failures and shortcomings at Marvin's feet and credit Taylor for inventing the forward pass. 

 

All of these favorable comparisons to this current regime vs the previous when the previous had more success than anyone that is currently involved with the franchise is ridiculous at best. 

Pretty sure Marvin had a say in personnel decisions, but most of that lies at the feet of Tobin and Brown.  Let's not gloss over the fact that even at 0-3 the gameday coaching has at least improved.  No terrible challenges, actual adjustments at half time, and a coach that appears to give a shit.  I think the last point is why some of the players are happy with Taylor.  Lewis seemed to be mailing it in for quite a while.

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