|OneHeartBeat| Posted November 13, 2019 Report Share Posted November 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, Jason said: It’s not like Burrow was a bad QB last season. He was playing in a prehistoric offense designed around the bad QBs LSU has had recently. I would agree with your opinion of Burrow had he been a dominant player from the moment he stepped on the field. He couldn't win the starting the job at OSU, was okay last year. He is certainly having a great year this year, but his body of work overall is not worth the #1 overall pick IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|OneHeartBeat| Posted November 13, 2019 Report Share Posted November 13, 2019 57 minutes ago, SmoothD said: For those that want Chase Young, ask yourself this. What impact could he make in this current scheme? The answer is none. Unless, they go out a get a proven defensive minded coach who would know how to utilize his skills, picking him would be a waste. Tua's injuries are a red flag, plus Alabama players seem to have A LOT of wear and tear on their body when the enter the league. I'd pick Joe Burrow. You make a valid point regarding the coaching. All we can hope for is that it changes if this team goes 0-16. or even if they win 1 or 2 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_C_Deadpeople Posted November 13, 2019 Report Share Posted November 13, 2019 Sadly, rationally thinking about this poll does no good. You have to think like Mike Brown, as painful as that is. A good GM who , if he stepped into this spot, would make good work of the draft and trading Dalton, etc. But alas, Mikey and Dufus Tobin will do what the Bengals do - most likely draft a QB then NOT protect him properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Tigre Posted November 13, 2019 Report Share Posted November 13, 2019 57 minutes ago, I_C_Deadpeople said: During the lead up to the draft, we will probably get some good comedy from the NFL beat writers from their sources on teams regarding calling the Bengals about trading the pick. Cant think a team will do this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky151 Posted November 13, 2019 Report Share Posted November 13, 2019 We shouldn't take Burrow unless Joe Brady comes with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_C_Deadpeople Posted November 13, 2019 Report Share Posted November 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, sparky151 said: We shouldn't take Burrow unless Joe Brady comes with him. Shouldn't, but we will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooky Posted November 15, 2019 Report Share Posted November 15, 2019 On 11/11/2019 at 8:33 AM, whodey? said: Chase Young. No question. But it doesn't matter how quick the pass rush is when the middle of the field is wide open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|High School Harry| Posted November 15, 2019 Report Share Posted November 15, 2019 23 minutes ago, Hooky said: But it doesn't matter how quick the pass rush is when the middle of the field is wide open. They can't cover the middle of the field if they draft a dog meat quarterback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cricket Posted November 15, 2019 Report Share Posted November 15, 2019 If we get Chase Young in round one, I wouldn't pick up ANY QB in the remainder of the draft. Ride with Finley/Dolegala and use all other picks to bolster OL, LB, etc. 🦗 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooky Posted November 15, 2019 Report Share Posted November 15, 2019 14 minutes ago, High School Harry said: They can't cover the middle of the field if they draft a dog meat quarterback. I didn't say they should. There are other positions. Like LB. Which I thought was my obvious point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|High School Harry| Posted November 15, 2019 Report Share Posted November 15, 2019 29 minutes ago, Hooky said: I didn't say they should. There are other positions. Like LB. Which I thought was my obvious point. It was and a rather tongue-in-cheek reply. I think if Chase Young is there he is the obvious choice unless some team offers to trade the ranch and livestock. If he isn't there, even if we draft second, I would trade down and load up on linebackers and offensive linemen. No quarterback above round four, if that. I would consider Mariotta in free agency for redeeming and a fresh start. And look at quarterbacks next year. But I so don't want a quarterback with our high first round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooky Posted November 15, 2019 Report Share Posted November 15, 2019 Just now, High School Harry said: It was and a rather tongue-in-cheek reply. I think if Chase Young is there he is the obvious choice unless some team offers to trade the ranch and livestock. If he isn't there, even if we draft second, I would trade down and load up on linebackers and offensive linemen. No quarterback above round four, if that. I would consider Mariotta in free agency for redeeming and a fresh start. And look at quarterbacks next year. But I so don't want a quarterback with our high first round pick. I agree. I would pick Chase Young out of the choices offered, but my point was that it won't mean shit unless they get some real LBs to replace the joke we have now. I was also alluding to possibly drafting an LB first if there is Top 5 overall talent. Is there a front runner at LB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicoli Posted November 15, 2019 Report Share Posted November 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Hooky said: Is there a front runner at LB? Just the kid from Clemson, Simmons...and he’s pretty undersized at 220lbs so I seriously doubt if he gets into the top 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_C_Deadpeople Posted November 15, 2019 Report Share Posted November 15, 2019 We will wait until rounds 3 or 4 to pick a LB - this is where our success at this position has been in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BENGALS666 Posted November 15, 2019 Report Share Posted November 15, 2019 Ricky Dixon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted November 15, 2019 Report Share Posted November 15, 2019 3 hours ago, I_C_Deadpeople said: We will wait until rounds 3 or 4 to pick a LB - this is where our success at this position has been in the past. I think that is probably true. And this year it needs to be, unless they somehow acquire another 1 or 2. 1 needs to be a QB, and 2 a RT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.A.B. Posted November 16, 2019 Report Share Posted November 16, 2019 I kinda want a defensive monster to root for. I don’t watch college football but have seen enough Young highlights for it to excite me if we pick him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatternMaster Posted November 16, 2019 Report Share Posted November 16, 2019 You know what, screw Chase Young and Joe Burrow. Give me Whiplash the Cowboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Tigre Posted November 16, 2019 Report Share Posted November 16, 2019 There still is a decent remnant of talent on the defensive side of the ball. The line is better than average, and the secondary--when healthy--has skills. The yawning chasms are the aforementioned LB's and, most of all, coaching. If this Chase cat is all that, he would indeed help make this side considerably better. Having been a live witness to the '90's defense disaster, this back-to-the-future dilemma will need the critical element of coaching to break the cycle (and before you say it, IC, for once no snide MB crap). I don't know if young Taylor will have the wherewithal to find that group of coaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_C_Deadpeople Posted November 16, 2019 Report Share Posted November 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Le Tigre said: There still is a decent remnant of talent on the defensive side of the ball. The line is better than average, and the secondary--when healthy--has skills. The yawning chasms are the aforementioned LB's and, most of all, coaching. If this Chase cat is all that, he would indeed help make this side considerably better. Having been a live witness to the '90's defense disaster, this back-to-the-future dilemma will need the critical element of coaching to break the cycle (and before you say it, IC, for once no snide MB crap). I don't know if young Taylor will have the wherewithal to find that group of coaches. Totally agree on the coaching, It is one of the 3 main pillars of good franchises. ML was good at attracting solid assistants. I am hard pressed to see a good coach in our whole bunch at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|High School Harry| Posted November 16, 2019 Report Share Posted November 16, 2019 Chase Young first hands down. Linebacker top of second round or even trade up a bit. Simmons from Clemson looks good but a bit undersized for the pros, perhaps. The guy from Alabama has been injured all year with a torn ACL Either of these guys because the Bengals like their players undersized and/or injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_C_Deadpeople Posted November 16, 2019 Report Share Posted November 16, 2019 Tau hurt today - carted off with some kind of hip injury. That should guarantee we will pick him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicoli Posted November 16, 2019 Report Share Posted November 16, 2019 I actually wouldn't be surprised if Tua goes back to school next year to tell ya the truth....Sr year, unfinished business and all that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ@w Posted November 16, 2019 Report Share Posted November 16, 2019 Tua injury, They are saying it is possibly or comparing it to a Bo Jackson type of career ending injury. They had to evac him out by helicopter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_C_Deadpeople Posted November 16, 2019 Report Share Posted November 16, 2019 Horrible luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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