I_C_Deadpeople Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 I wish we would cheat and win Super Bowls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|High School Harry| Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 Patriots footage of Bengals revealed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Tigre Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 The art of stealing signs in baseball, is as old as the game itself. The most recent "cheaters" were the Houston Astros from 2017, where they were caught using long-range cameras to monitor catchers' signs and then relaying it to the Astro dugout. In turn, a coach would bang on a trash can in a certain cadence, alerting the batter of the pitch. The first "high tech" use for sign-stealing, goes back to the 1951 NY Giants--who used some sort of buzzer system to relay pitches to the batter. But "old fashioned" stealing--where a runner may be on second, accurately decodes the the sign, and then signals to the at-plate batter--is not even illegal, even though the electronic use has been prohibited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_C_Deadpeople Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 Pats: why would we tape the Bengals? League: Good point, investigation closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky151 Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 If you ain't cheatin', you ain't tryin'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dub Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 6 hours ago, I_C_Deadpeople said: I wish we would cheat and win Super Bowls You don't "win" anything when you cheat. If we're playing checkers and I hit you with a 2x4, I didn't "win" at checkers - I hit you with a 2x4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|SF2| Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 23 minutes ago, T-Dub said: You don't "win" anything when you cheat. If we're playing checkers and I hit you with a 2x4, I didn't "win" at checkers - I hit you with a 2x4. Actually, you get a Lombardi trophy and a bigger paycheck if you win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dub Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 4 minutes ago, SF2 said: Actually, you get a Lombardi trophy and a bigger paycheck if you win. Because the NFL now is about as legitimate as pro wrestling, only with more bullshit grandstanding and domestic violence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_C_Deadpeople Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 4 hours ago, T-Dub said: Because the NFL now is about as legitimate as pro wrestling, only with more bullshit grandstanding and domestic violence. Pro wrestling is real Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catfish Bob Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 On 12/10/2019 at 9:02 AM, SF2 said: They could have just called me. I know their 4 plays very well. Lol!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dub Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 6 hours ago, I_C_Deadpeople said: Pro wrestling is real Well.. the action is real at least. Also when they decide someone should play a heel character they don't try to ruin them for real. Both sports are pretty melodramatic comic book-ish, but only one of them is self-aware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_C_Deadpeople Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 3 hours ago, T-Dub said: Well.. the action is real at least. Also when they decide someone should play a heel character they don't try to ruin them for real. Both sports are pretty melodramatic comic book-ish, but only one of them is self-aware. LOL, I used to say "Wrestling is real, the world is fake". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatternMaster Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 10 hours ago, I_C_Deadpeople said: Pro wrestling is real Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerCub Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 Did anyone see the footage from the confrontation between the Bengals security and the Patriots film crew??? Unbelievable. It makes the Patriots look guilty as heck and the Fox crew still defended that Belichick still could not have known. Here is the video footage they showed on Fox this morning: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go Tory Go! Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 At least we know with certainty that the Bengals are not engaging in such cheating. Mike Brown would never pay someone to go out and film our opponents, let alone pay for the airfare, hotel, per diem expenses...unimaginable! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go Tory Go! Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 1 hour ago, TigerCub said: Did anyone see the footage from the confrontation between the Bengals security and the Patriots film crew??? Unbelievable. It makes the Patriots look guilty as heck and the Fox crew still defended that Belichick still could not have known. Here is the video footage they showed on Fox this morning: Very frustrating to watch this discussion. Just asinine. Their arguments boil down to this: The Patriots have been caught doing the same thing before. Therefore, it is unlikely they would do it again. Why didn't Vontaze Burfict get the benefit of this logic? "He was suspended last year for trying to injure an opponent, so obviously he wouldn't try to do it again!" The concept of the repeat offender is apparently illogical. And if the people committing the infraction were sent there and (more importantly) given access and credentialed as members of the Patriots staff, the Patriots organization should be responsible as if it was Old Tugjob himself behind the camera. I don't buy this argument of immunity that they were 'from a different department,' etc. It's the Ronald Reagan defense from the Iran-Contra situation all over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_C_Deadpeople Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 The NFL cares most about the teams and owners that contribute to the revenue, brand and growth. The NFL cares the least for the owners that do nothing but collect checks and suck off the money nipple. No reason to be frustrated, Mike Brown is once again to blame. Why would the other owners of the NFL do him any favors? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go Tory Go! Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, I_C_Deadpeople said: The NFL cares most about the teams and owners that contribute to the revenue, brand and growth. The NFL cares the least for the owners that do nothing but collect checks and suck off the money nipple. No reason to be frustrated, Mike Brown is once again to blame. Why would the other owners of the NFL do him any favors? I'm not so much concerned that the Patriots were trying to get a leg-up on the mighty Bengals in this one game, as I am that they are doing this as a standard operating procedure with all teams. This just happens to be the time they got caught. I know nobody cares about deadbeat Mike Brown, and for good reason. But in any case, the teams most harmed by this are going to be those in direct competition with the Pats - in their division, or in competition for playoff seeds, byes, home-field advantage. Surely they should be speaking up as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_C_Deadpeople Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 5 minutes ago, Go Tory Go! said: I'm not so much concerned that the Patriots were trying to get a leg-up on the mighty Bengals in this one game, as I am that they are doing this as a standard operating procedure with all teams. This just happens to be the time they got caught. I know nobody cares about deadbeat Mike Brown, and for good reason. But in any case, the teams most harmed by this are going to be those in direct competition with the Pats - in their division, or in competition for playoff seeds, byes, home-field advantage. Surely they should be speaking up as well. Who's to say other teams don't do the same or similar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cricket Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 1 minute ago, I_C_Deadpeople said: Who's to say other teams don't do the same or similar? So the problem isn’t that they do it, the problem is that they got caught. Okay... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_C_Deadpeople Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 Just now, Cricket said: So the problem isn’t that they do it, the problem is that they got caught. Okay... It always is. People that really really want to win will push the envelope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|SF2| Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, I_C_Deadpeople said: Who's to say other teams don't do the same or similar? When those teams get caught it can be discussed, until then it’s the Patriots once again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_C_Deadpeople Posted January 15, 2020 Report Share Posted January 15, 2020 Slightly off topic, but with the Astros being busted for stealing signs, a sports reporter on ESPN radio said the team should change it's name to the "Houston Asterisks" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Tigre Posted January 15, 2020 Report Share Posted January 15, 2020 On 12/13/2019 at 3:50 PM, Le Tigre said: The art of stealing signs in baseball, is as old as the game itself. The most recent "cheaters" were the Houston Astros from 2017, where they were caught using long-range cameras to monitor catchers' signs and then relaying it to the Astro dugout. In turn, a coach would bang on a trash can in a certain cadence, alerting the batter of the pitch. The first "high tech" use for sign-stealing, goes back to the 1951 NY Giants--who used some sort of buzzer system to relay pitches to the batter. But "old fashioned" stealing--where a runner may be on second, accurately decodes the the sign, and then signals to the at-plate batter--is not even illegal, even though the electronic use has been prohibited. A reprise of an earlier post. Any baseball team, anywhere, have stolen signals for as long as there has been baseball. Changing signals to counter it, is also as old—sometimes in the same at bat. Houston didn’t win that Series because of pilfering signals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|SF2| Posted January 15, 2020 Report Share Posted January 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Le Tigre said: A reprise of an earlier post. Any baseball team, anywhere, have stolen signals for as long as there has been baseball. Changing signals to counter it, is also as old—sometimes in the same at bat. Houston didn’t win that Series because of pilfering signals. Baseball players are such whinny bitches. The "unwritten rules" nonsense is ridiculous. The simple answer will be to have air pod like devices in the catcher's and pitcher's ears and the pitch sent in by the coach. Pitcher can shake it off if he wants. It is 2020. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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