fluhartz Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 38 minutes ago, spicoli said: Theres no way the Bengals are trading down with a franchise QB right there waiting for them. Not a chance in hell theyre passing up that opportunity. agreed.. Mikey turned down a whole teams draft for #3 to pick Akili Smith. No way he is passing on Burrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Tigre Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 Akili. Burrow... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeds Orange Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 Regardless of talent, I would only want to bring back players who are all in and willing to bust their asses for the success of the team. There are players on the team like that, but I don't perceive that AJ Green is one of them. I'm not his doctor and I don't have access to his medical records, but does anyone believe that injury had to keep him out the entire season? I'd be interested to know how his teammates view him at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snarkster Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 2 hours ago, Bleeds Orange said: Regardless of talent, I would only want to bring back players who are all in and willing to bust their asses for the success of the team. There are players on the team like that, but I don't perceive that AJ Green is one of them. I'm not his doctor and I don't have access to his medical records, but does anyone believe that injury had to keep him out the entire season? I'd be interested to know how his teammates view him at this point. I'd tag him, but the first team to pony up a #1 owns him. I might consider bringing him back next year and the try dealing him for a 1st or 2nd Rd pick at next year's deadline (they can get a 2021 3rd Rd comp by letting him walk right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stryker57 Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 23 minutes ago, snarkster said: I might consider bringing him back next year and the try dealing him for a 1st or 2nd Rd pick at next year's deadline (they can get a 2021 3rd Rd comp by letting him walk right now. if they let AJ walk then expect no quality signings in FA or they will lose the 3rd rounder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snarkster Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 1 minute ago, stryker57 said: if they let AJ walk then expect no quality signings in FA or they will lose the 3rd rounder. Yeah, but I expect no quality FA signings anyway. It's the Bengals. 😼 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|SF2| Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 If they traded down and Burrow was great the franchise would never live it down. If they trade down they will be evicerated by the media and fans. Only smart pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmoothD Posted January 2, 2020 Report Share Posted January 2, 2020 The moment AJ said he wanted to play for a contender at this point in his career is all you need to know. It's a far cry from him saying he wanted to be a Bengal for life. He doesn't want to be franchised. I'd say take the best offer and move on from him. Sign another low end WR1 for less money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|High School Harry| Posted January 2, 2020 Report Share Posted January 2, 2020 Going against the grain here and I'm not really sure what is going on but... Sign A.J. to a three year contract. He will be happy, the fans love him (including me) and a nice, stable veteran target for Athens Joe to throw to. I think A.J. will be a real asset to the development of Bayou Burrow. Sign Joe Mixon to a well paid and well earned contract extension sooner rather than later and avoid the contract year happy horse shit we usually have. Trade Cordy Glenn and John Loss III. Throw in Dre Kirkpatrick. Subtractions of distractions. This is for starters and do able at this time. Nice to speculate about adding coaches (Callahan et al) but that is making the assumption they would want to come here and work under a head coach young enough to be their son. I would like to see going into next year with as few distractions as possible giving Athens Joe, the Bayou Bengal as much change to succeed as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duluoz Posted January 2, 2020 Report Share Posted January 2, 2020 On 12/31/2019 at 10:40 AM, Duluoz said: I know this is heresy, but any idea how many picks Cinci could accumulate by trading down? There's going to be a feeding frenzy for Burrow and Young and teams will overpay when that happens. I'll reply to myself..... CBS Sports thinks the Miami Dolphins might be willing to offer 2020 Nos. 5, 18, 25 and 2021 fourth for No. 1. That is a shitload of new talent for a franchise starving for talent, and I would take a good, long look at such an offer if I'm Mike Brown. Who could trade up for Joe Burrow at No. 1, and what such a move would cost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
membengal Posted January 2, 2020 Report Share Posted January 2, 2020 I would not, and it is not enough for me to waver in staying put. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky151 Posted January 2, 2020 Report Share Posted January 2, 2020 44 minutes ago, Duluoz said: I'll reply to myself..... CBS Sports thinks the Miami Dolphins might be willing to offer 2020 Nos. 5, 18, 25 and 2021 fourth for No. 1. That is a shitload of new talent for a franchise starving for talent, and I would take a good, long look at such an offer if I'm Mike Brown. Who could trade up for Joe Burrow at No. 1, and what such a move would cost No deal. There some other offers based on various trade charts which included future first rounders. If we pass on Burrow, we'd better be in position to draft Tua or amass picks for next year. It's simpler just to take Burrow and fix the other positions than fix the other positions and try to find a high end QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky151 Posted January 2, 2020 Report Share Posted January 2, 2020 6 hours ago, High School Harry said: Going against the grain here and I'm not really sure what is going on but... Sign A.J. to a three year contract. He will be happy, the fans love him (including me) and a nice, stable veteran target for Athens Joe to throw to. I think A.J. will be a real asset to the development of Bayou Burrow. Sign Joe Mixon to a well paid and well earned contract extension sooner rather than later and avoid the contract year happy horse shit we usually have. Trade Cordy Glenn and John Loss III. Throw in Dre Kirkpatrick. Subtractions of distractions. This is for starters and do able at this time. Nice to speculate about adding coaches (Callahan et al) but that is making the assumption they would want to come here and work under a head coach young enough to be their son. I would like to see going into next year with as few distractions as possible giving Athens Joe, the Bayou Bengal as much change to succeed as possible. Taylor should be fired but clearly isn't going to be. He should be out in the market recruiting better assistants. Add Callahan for the O-line. Kris Richard for the secondary. Joe Brady or Art Briles for QB. Lots of possible DCs who are miles better than Anarumo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|High School Harry| Posted January 2, 2020 Report Share Posted January 2, 2020 1 minute ago, sparky151 said: Taylor should be fired but clearly isn't going to be. He should be out in the market recruiting better assistants. Add Callahan for the O-line. Kris Richard for the secondary. Joe Brady or Art Briles for QB. Lots of possible DCs who are miles better than Anarumo. For DC I think they should bring in the DC from Ohio University. Joe Burrow's father. Seriously, saying bring in this coach or that coach all sounds well and good but 1) will they come and 2) how well would the fit, work with the rest of the staff implementing the system. oops... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky151 Posted January 2, 2020 Report Share Posted January 2, 2020 1 minute ago, High School Harry said: For DC I think they should bring in the DC from Ohio University. Joe Burrow's father. Seriously, saying bring in this coach or that coach all sounds well and good but 1) will they come and 2) how well would the fit, work with the rest of the staff implementing the system. oops... Of course they will come if they are paid enough. The Bengals are an NFL team and should be able to pay more than colleges and enough to get unemployed coaches to come here. We're not talking about hiring Belichick or Reid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duluoz Posted January 2, 2020 Report Share Posted January 2, 2020 44 minutes ago, sparky151 said: No deal. There some other offers based on various trade charts which included future first rounders. If we pass on Burrow, we'd better be in position to draft Tua or amass picks for next year. It's simpler just to take Burrow and fix the other positions than fix the other positions and try to find a high end QB. Food for thought.,.. Jack Thompson David Klingler Akili Smith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
membengal Posted January 2, 2020 Report Share Posted January 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, Duluoz said: Food for thought.,.. Jack Thompson David Klingler Akili Smith Yes, there are misses. But there are misses in other rounds too. Let's not pretend that this team is gonna hit the next Boomer as opposed to the next Dalton if they trade back. You take Burrow because he represents the best chance at finding a franchise changer at QB. Far better than Fromm in round 3 (shudders and vomits). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicoli Posted January 2, 2020 Report Share Posted January 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, Duluoz said: David Klingler Akili Smith Lol those two never should have been first round picks. They both had huge red flags coming out and the Bengals chose to ignore those flags and take them anyway. That's 100% on them for those fuck ups. Zero red flags on Burrow though. Just throwing that out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duluoz Posted January 2, 2020 Report Share Posted January 2, 2020 15 minutes ago, membengal said: Yes, there are misses. But there are misses in other rounds too. Let's not pretend that this team is gonna hit the next Boomer as opposed to the next Dalton if they trade back. You take Burrow because he represents the best chance at finding a franchise changer at QB. Far better than Fromm in round 3 (shudders and vomits). Yep, there are misses, which is exactly why you should consider getting multiple picks for trading away the #1....you're hedging your bet, vs going all in on Burrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicoli Posted January 2, 2020 Report Share Posted January 2, 2020 Mike Brown gave up an entire draft from the Saints to take Akili Smith...no way in hell he's gonna pass on the opportunity to take Ohio boy Joe Burrow. It's just not happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snarkster Posted January 2, 2020 Report Share Posted January 2, 2020 3 hours ago, Duluoz said: I'll reply to myself..... CBS Sports thinks the Miami Dolphins might be willing to offer 2020 Nos. 5, 18, 25 and 2021 fourth for No. 1. That is a shitload of new talent for a franchise starving for talent, and I would take a good, long look at such an offer if I'm Mike Brown. Who could trade up for Joe Burrow at No. 1, and what such a move would cost When did the fish go and hire Hue? I'd do that in a heartbeat, but they'd just say, "So long and thanks for all the fish!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
membengal Posted January 3, 2020 Report Share Posted January 3, 2020 2 hours ago, Duluoz said: Yep, there are misses, which is exactly why you should consider getting multiple picks for trading away the #1....you're hedging your bet, vs going all in on Burrow. Yup. All in. I don’t want any bets hedged when it comes to QB. I want the best QB. That’s Burrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duluoz Posted January 3, 2020 Report Share Posted January 3, 2020 24 minutes ago, membengal said: Yup. All in. I don’t want any bets hedged when it comes to QB. I want the best QB. That’s Burrow. The NFL Draft is littered with the wreckage of "can't miss" QB picks....I know Joe Burrow looks fantastic, but so did all the following 50 guys: 50 Biggest Quarterback Busts in NFL Draft History Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
membengal Posted January 3, 2020 Report Share Posted January 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, Duluoz said: The NFL Draft is littered with the wreckage of "can't miss" QB picks....I know Joe Burrow looks fantastic, but so did all the following 50 guys: 50 Biggest Quarterback Busts in NFL Draft History And is littered with ones who worked out. I want to push the chips in for a change rather than running scared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
membengal Posted January 3, 2020 Report Share Posted January 3, 2020 In 1998 the Colts should definitely have traded back and taken Curtis Enis, vonnie holiday and mo Collins and then grabbed Charlie batch in round two, instead of gambling on Peyton Manning... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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