T-Dub Posted April 11, 2020 Report Share Posted April 11, 2020 21 minutes ago, Hooky said: That's why only 2 Heisman QBs have ever won a Super Bowl. Because they get drafted #1 by the worst team in the league that's offense isn't ready for a rookie QB. And the 2 QBs were Plunkett and Staubach. Plunkett was a draft bust and ended up winning with Oakland as a retread. Staubach didn't play right away because he had the military commitment. That's why Burrow will probably bust. The offense isn't ready for him. So they should try to get whatever they can in trade for him. Or they could, IDK, get rid of Dalton and throw that money at the OL. It might not work out but they could at least try to fix it instead of hoping everything magically comes together. 2/5 of our starters last year decided they'd rather sit or retire than play for our OL coach, who also thinks Bobby Hart is "phenomenal". This guy is also our only OL scout. Said it before but the Turner/Hart duo is a trainwreck and will hold the team back for as long as they let them, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stryker57 Posted April 12, 2020 Report Share Posted April 12, 2020 1 hour ago, T-Dub said: Or they could, IDK, get rid of Dalton and throw that money at the OL. It might not work out but they could at least try to fix it instead of hoping everything magically comes together. 2/5 of our starters last year decided they'd rather sit or retire than play for our OL coach, who also thinks Bobby Hart is "phenomenal". This guy is also our only OL scout. Said it before but the Turner/Hart duo is a trainwreck and will hold the team back for as long as they let them, whos left to throw the money at? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dub Posted April 12, 2020 Report Share Posted April 12, 2020 5 hours ago, stryker57 said: whos left to throw the money at? Good question, that ship may have sailed. There's still the draft though, and likely some other vets getting released later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted April 12, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2020 14 hours ago, T-Dub said: Good question, that ship may have sailed. There's still the draft though, and likely some other vets getting released later. That....vets will be released... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dub Posted April 12, 2020 Report Share Posted April 12, 2020 1 minute ago, claptonrocks said: That....vets will be released... Right & I don't expect a long term solution there, just someone that could halfway get it done for a year replacing Hart or Williams if need be. Building through the draft is ideal but I keep coming back to our only OL scout being the same coach that thinks Hart is a phenomenal player. He's not even an NFL caliber starter. Redeeming Turner is going to cost us. Expect the OL to keep struggling until he's gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted April 12, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2020 38 minutes ago, T-Dub said: Right & I don't expect a long term solution there, just someone that could halfway get it done for a year replacing Hart or Williams if need be. Building through the draft is ideal but I keep coming back to our only OL scout being the same coach that thinks Hart is a phenomenal player. He's not even an NFL caliber starter. Redeeming Turner is going to cost us. Expect the OL to keep struggling until he's gone. Well i hope your wrong but who knows.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted April 18, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2020 Was looking at 2019 rankings of Ollines... We werent pretty! Philly was first and for good reason. Everyone one of their starting 5 were ranked in the top ten at their position.. Whoa..Carson Wentz is protected.. I believe the Browns were 21st.. Clevelands interior line was high on pass protecting ..the need was at tackles and with the signing of Jack Conklin and drafting a top OT..their line will be strong.. Bengals were 30th... Their individual grades never reached the 50 percentile... Taking a tackle and guard with 2 and 3 isnt that crazy.... Is it??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted April 18, 2020 Report Share Posted April 18, 2020 13 hours ago, claptonrocks said: Was looking at 2019 rankings of Ollines... We werent pretty! Philly was first and for good reason. Everyone one of their starting 5 were ranked in the top ten at their position.. Whoa..Carson Wentz is protected.. I believe the Browns were 21st.. Clevelands interior line was high on pass protecting ..the need was at tackles and with the signing of Jack Conklin and drafting a top OT..their line will be strong.. Bengals were 30th... Their individual grades never reached the 50 percentile... Taking a tackle and guard with 2 and 3 isnt that crazy.... Is it??? Wouldn't bother me, although I'd prefer the guard a little later so WR and LB can be addressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted April 19, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2020 On 4/18/2020 at 11:44 AM, Jason said: Wouldn't bother me, although I'd prefer the guard a little later so WR and LB can be addressed. I do like a backer in there as well .. Brady didnt have great receivers thru the yrs cept for Gronk and Moss.. The rest were just decent but his oline gave him time in pass protection to deliver with accuracy.. Isnt this what Burrows needs?.. There must be some receivers after round 3 that could help this team if Burrow has some time.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted April 19, 2020 Report Share Posted April 19, 2020 19 minutes ago, claptonrocks said: I do like a backer in there as well .. Brady didnt have great receivers thru the yrs cept for Gronk and Moss.. The rest were just decent but his oline gave him time in pass protection to deliver with accuracy.. Isnt this what Burrows needs?.. There must be some receivers after round 3 that could help this team if Burrow has some time.. I wouldn't hate Claypool in 4. He has some good tools and needs to develop a little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cricket Posted April 19, 2020 Report Share Posted April 19, 2020 52 minutes ago, claptonrocks said: ...Brady didnt have great receivers thru the yrs cept for Gronk and Moss.. The rest were just decent but his oline gave him time in pass protection to deliver with accuracy... Welker and Edelman (sp?) were pretty damn good and effective with their style of play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicoli Posted April 19, 2020 Report Share Posted April 19, 2020 I'm a huge fan of either one of Brooks or Harrison at 65. I wouldn't be mad at Willie Gay or Tony Dye but they're both a little behind the other two for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted April 19, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2020 22 minutes ago, Cricket said: Welker and Edelman (sp?) were pretty damn good and effective with their style of play. Yes but what would they have done with Daltons passes except shake their heads in frustration by his inept accuracy?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dub Posted April 19, 2020 Report Share Posted April 19, 2020 3 hours ago, claptonrocks said: Yes but what would they have done with Daltons passes except shake their heads in frustration by his inept accuracy?? Post a 1000+ yard season like Tyler Boyd? Or was that a rhetorical question... Sorry, sorry: DALTON BAD! DALTON GO, MAKE ALL GOOD! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|High School Harry| Posted April 19, 2020 Report Share Posted April 19, 2020 20 minutes ago, T-Dub said: Sorry, sorry: DALTON BAD! DALTON GO, MAKE ALL GOOD! Andy is the New Marvin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted April 19, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2020 22 minutes ago, T-Dub said: Post a 1000+ yard season like Tyler Boyd? Or was that a rhetorical question... Sorry, sorry: DALTON BAD! DALTON GO, MAKE ALL GOOD! Makes me wonder what Boyd could have put up with an accurate quarterback... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cricket Posted April 20, 2020 Report Share Posted April 20, 2020 3 hours ago, claptonrocks said: Makes me wonder what Boyd could haveWILL put up with an accurate quarterback... Fixed. 😎 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted April 20, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2020 18 minutes ago, Cricket said: Fixed. 😎 Like it! ..😎 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingspoint Posted April 20, 2020 Report Share Posted April 20, 2020 Worst kept secret in the NFL....Browns will take an OT with their first pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted April 20, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Kingspoint said: Worst kept secret in the NFL....Browns will take an OT with their first pick. Probably so..all they need to complete a very resectable oline is LT.. Andrew Thomas would be my choice... They may like Bechton.. Either way Baker will have good prorection.. Bengals should take notice that Alll AFCN teans have made a Priority on keeping their. QBs protected this year.. Get Joe Thuney asap!!! The first pick in round 3 would help the Pats and dramatically change our oline for the good... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted April 20, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2020 An oline of Williams Jordan Hopkins Thuney and Isaiah would hold up against our AFCN opponents.. Anything less will be a big problem for the offensive to showout.. You know it!! Lets get it done soon to compete in this physical division.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengals7833 Posted April 26, 2020 Report Share Posted April 26, 2020 might be worth a look Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Jersey Bengal Posted April 27, 2020 Report Share Posted April 27, 2020 Agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted April 27, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2020 25 minutes ago, bengals7833 said: might be worth a look Yes although hes not very good.. On second thought no.. Not worth what he ll ask for.. Too many penalties and sacks given up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|High School Harry| Posted April 27, 2020 Report Share Posted April 27, 2020 44 minutes ago, claptonrocks said: Yes although hes not very good.. On second thought no.. Not worth what he ll ask for.. Too many penalties and sacks given up. We don't need another useless Fluker on our O line. We just got rid of one and still have Bobby Hart to deal with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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