Jamie_B Posted August 31, 2020 Report Share Posted August 31, 2020 some things are more important than my 401k returns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dub Posted August 31, 2020 Report Share Posted August 31, 2020 On 8/29/2020 at 2:50 PM, claptonrocks said: A socialist system run by Pelosi and her cohorts will make Ameruca stronger?? If you think Pelosi is a socialist you definitely don't know what that word means. Does it matter that Trump's tax cuts for the rich about tripled the deficit in one term? Does "conservative" mean anything beyond supporting a theocracy? Quote mobs running the streets You mean the militias that just murdered 2 people right? Ohhh nooo you meant the other people that were yelling things you don't like. "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." -JFK Remember when star QB took a knee and everyone called him a traitor (or worse?) & he got blackballed out of the NFL? There's a reason every major civil rights advance for POC in our county have come after war or widespread rioting. People want to weaponize MLK Jr with that "oh he preached nonviolence" shit like he wasn't assassinated by a white supremacist with the help of the local PD & FBI. Don't ask people to turn the other cheek so you can slap them again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dub Posted August 31, 2020 Report Share Posted August 31, 2020 2 hours ago, Gary said: I hope a lot of you peeps are voting for Biden because you don't like Trump, and not because you think he can do a better job than Trump. That's fine with me. You aren't going to change some people's minds and that's cool. I understand that. Live and let live eh? So let me tell you why I am voting Trump.. Well for one, BLM screwed my niece's life up, and assaulted her on more than one occasion. When democrats don't come out to condemn it, it kinda pisses me off.. It pisses me off when a white supremacist runs over peaceful protesters at a white power rally and the President calls them "good people". Riots suck for sure but they are born of the frustrations of people who have exhausted all alternatives and been routinely, systematically ignored. So great. we're both angry about different things. Are we to let that anger dictate our future? Why would you expect the Democrats to denounce BLM when Trump & by extension the Republicans openly endorse neo-nazis? I can not in good conscience consider voting for an authoritarian White Nationalist hell bent on creating a police state. I understand that not every Trump supporter is some rabid racist, but choosing to ignore racism is effectively the same thing for the people being oppressed. Biden is not particularly inspiring but he is nothing if not an establishment moderate Democrat. All this talk equating opposition to Trump with treason and terrorism is incredibly dangerous and I'm suspicious of the motives of anyone that supports it. He strikes me as a calm, reasonable man that is no more corrupt than anyone else in DC. Besides which, accusations of corruption from a sitting President convicted of fraud are a joke. Your guy embezzled funds from a pediatric cancer charity. That's not rumor or "fake news", but a court judgement. Does the rule of law mean anything? Is no crime too heinous for Dear Leader? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted August 31, 2020 Report Share Posted August 31, 2020 8 hours ago, T-Dub said: It pisses me off when a white supremacist runs over peaceful protesters at a white power rally and the President calls them "good people". Riots suck for sure but they are born of the frustrations of people who have exhausted all alternatives and been routinely, systematically ignored. So great. we're both angry about different things. Are we to let that anger dictate our future? Why would you expect the Democrats to denounce BLM when Trump & by extension the Republicans openly endorse neo-nazis? I can not in good conscience consider voting for an authoritarian White Nationalist hell bent on creating a police state. I understand that not every Trump supporter is some rabid racist, but choosing to ignore racism is effectively the same thing for the people being oppressed. Biden is not particularly inspiring but he is nothing if not an establishment moderate Democrat. All this talk equating opposition to Trump with treason and terrorism is incredibly dangerous and I'm suspicious of the motives of anyone that supports it. He strikes me as a calm, reasonable man that is no more corrupt than anyone else in DC. Besides which, accusations of corruption from a sitting President convicted of fraud are a joke. Your guy embezzled funds from a pediatric cancer charity. That's not rumor or "fake news", but a court judgement. Does the rule of law mean anything? Is no crime too heinous for Dear Leader? Yes but think of your 401K(kk) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted August 31, 2020 Report Share Posted August 31, 2020 Also when I call this administration Fascists in addition to what T-Dubb said I'm talking about shit like this... https://www.npr.org/2020/07/17/892277592/federal-officers-use-unmarked-vehicles-to-grab-protesters-in-portland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Montana Bengal| Posted August 31, 2020 Report Share Posted August 31, 2020 My home had last 40k of its value before Obama had been elected. Sold it when he was still in office for 45k more than we bought it for. My retirement fund came bouncing back during that time as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dub Posted September 1, 2020 Report Share Posted September 1, 2020 On 8/31/2020 at 10:52 AM, Montana Bengal said: My home had last 40k of its value before Obama had been elected. Sold it when he was still in office for 45k more than we bought it for. My retirement fund came bouncing back during that time as well. I don't much like how it went down but he at least averted a catastrophic financial crisis. Maybe he punted it forward but Trump has about tripled the national debt while running the economy off a cliff. Tax breaks for the rich, market manipulation through continually lowering Fed rates, on-again/off-again trade wars with China, using foreign policy to extort private business deals.. This will go down in history as one of the most corrupt presidencies in our history. True to form, he wants all the credit for something he inherited and none of the blame for what he's done with it since then. He's at his core a very ignorant, hateful and petty person and it saddens me that we'd accept such a man for the office. I can't say that about any other president in my or even my parent's lifetimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted September 4, 2020 Report Share Posted September 4, 2020 Trump: Americans Who Died in War Are ‘Losers’ and ‘Suckers’ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go Skins Posted September 18, 2020 Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 Patriotic education? https://www.npr.org/2020/09/17/914127266/trump-announces-patriotic-education-commission-a-largely-political-move Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat Posted September 18, 2020 Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 2 hours ago, Go Skins said: Patriotic education? https://www.npr.org/2020/09/17/914127266/trump-announces-patriotic-education-commission-a-largely-political-move So Re-Education camps then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jamie_B Posted September 18, 2020 Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 Quote "Maybe this virus is a good thing, I won't have to shake hands with those disgusting people." (his supporters) - Donald Trump He does not care about you, he does not care about this country, he only cares about himself. At this point if you don't get that you are a moron. Or maybe you do get that and you don't care because as long as he "owns the libs" that's what you care about. Or you just care about your 401k and nothing or nobody else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go Skins Posted September 24, 2020 Report Share Posted September 24, 2020 https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/the-trump-campaign-is-reportedly-discussing-contingency-plans-to-bypass-election-results/ar-BB19lU3M?ocid=uxbndlbing The report delves into possible scenarios if Trump apparently loses the 2020 presidential election but doesn't concede, noting that although we're used to electors being selected based on the popular vote, "nothing in the Constitution says it has to be that way." Citing Republican Party sources, The Atlantic says that Trump's campaign is "discussing contingency plans to bypass election results and appoint loyal electors in battleground states where Republicans hold the legislative majority." The campaign would reportedly assert that this step was necessary due to claims of supposed voter fraud, which experts have noted is extraordinarily rare, ahead of the "safe harbor" deadline to appoint 538 electors on Dec. 8. "Trump would ask state legislators to set aside the popular vote and exercise their power to choose a slate of electors directly," The Atlantic reports. "The longer Trump succeeds in keeping the vote count in doubt, the more pressure legislators will feel to act before the safe-harbor deadline expires." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dub Posted September 24, 2020 Report Share Posted September 24, 2020 They're hoping the returns from early and in-person voting favors them & then they'll drag out the mail-in counting until the Republican-stacked courts put an end to it. I mean, they've essentially said that's the plan, they're actively putting it in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go Skins Posted September 24, 2020 Report Share Posted September 24, 2020 10 minutes ago, T-Dub said: They're hoping the returns from early and in-person voting favors them & then they'll drag out the mail-in counting until the Republican-stacked courts put an end to it. I mean, they've essentially said that's the plan, they're actively putting it in place. The lines in Fairfax County, VA have been hours in length in the early voting that started last Friday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dub Posted September 24, 2020 Report Share Posted September 24, 2020 6 minutes ago, Go Skins said: The lines in Fairfax County, VA have been hours in length in the early voting that started last Friday. I mean.. if they wanted everyone to vote it'd be a national holiday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|westside bengal| Posted September 24, 2020 Report Share Posted September 24, 2020 Chicago wants everyone to vote. Even the dead can vote in the Windy City. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted September 24, 2020 Report Share Posted September 24, 2020 2 hours ago, Go Skins said: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/the-trump-campaign-is-reportedly-discussing-contingency-plans-to-bypass-election-results/ar-BB19lU3M?ocid=uxbndlbing The report delves into possible scenarios if Trump apparently loses the 2020 presidential election but doesn't concede, noting that although we're used to electors being selected based on the popular vote, "nothing in the Constitution says it has to be that way." Citing Republican Party sources, The Atlantic says that Trump's campaign is "discussing contingency plans to bypass election results and appoint loyal electors in battleground states where Republicans hold the legislative majority." The campaign would reportedly assert that this step was necessary due to claims of supposed voter fraud, which experts have noted is extraordinarily rare, ahead of the "safe harbor" deadline to appoint 538 electors on Dec. 8. "Trump would ask state legislators to set aside the popular vote and exercise their power to choose a slate of electors directly," The Atlantic reports. "The longer Trump succeeds in keeping the vote count in doubt, the more pressure legislators will feel to act before the safe-harbor deadline expires." Everyone has dirty hands once elected.. All of them..both sides are self serving.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted September 24, 2020 Report Share Posted September 24, 2020 2 hours ago, T-Dub said: They're hoping the returns from early and in-person voting favors them & then they'll drag out the mail-in counting until the Republican-stacked courts put an end to it. I mean, they've essentially said that's the plan, they're actively putting it in place. dDont you just love the corruptness of both sides? What a fuckin mess this has become.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dub Posted September 24, 2020 Report Share Posted September 24, 2020 20 hours ago, claptonrocks said: dDont you just love the corruptness of both sides? What a fuckin mess this has become.. It is indeed a mess when I have to vote for a crooked establishment Dem because the alternative is a straight up white supremacist despot that thinks we should do things like nuke hurricanes. Like I said elsewhere, miss me with this "both sides" prevaricating. It's really not that hard to choose one right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted September 25, 2020 Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 She is an odd bird but on this one topic she is not wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted September 25, 2020 Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 2 hours ago, T-Dub said: It is indeed a mess when I have to vote for a crooked establishment Dem because the alternative is a straight up white supremacist despot that thinks we should do things like nuke hurricanes. Like I said elsewhere, miss me with this "both sides" prevaricating. It's really not that hard to choose one right now. Apparently not for you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted September 25, 2020 Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Jamie_B said: She is an odd bird but on this one topic she is not wrong. No ....it is Marxism.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted September 25, 2020 Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 Just now, claptonrocks said: No ....it is Marxism.... Neoliberalism? Hardly You should really at least look up these things, you dont seem to understand them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dub Posted September 25, 2020 Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 5 hours ago, Jamie_B said: Neoliberalism? Hardly You should really at least look up these things, you dont seem to understand them. They're just boogeyman scare words to a lot of people right now. They'd say "commie" but most people are familiar enough with McCarthyism to know that's propaganda. Call it "socialism" and you can get people living off Social Security and food stamps to vote against themselves. Gonna drop this quote in here again Quote “Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires.” -Ronald Wright Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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