T-Dub Posted March 1, 2020 Report Share Posted March 1, 2020 25 minutes ago, PatternMaster said: Who said that was the plan? Hopefully the oline will continue to improve like they did as the season progressed. The Bengals started Smith and Jerry at LT for the majority of the season, I doubt that will be the case for the upcoming season. I think the oline will be improved because of better talent and the coaching staff having more time to get guys who fit their system. There's plenty of things a team can do to cut down on the sacks allowed, having a mobile QB that has a great pocket presence is a start. Pop Need to add a real RT at least & probably another interior lineman. I think it's the idea of running Hart out there for another year that bothers me. It's harder to tell who is really screwing up inside but I'm also sick of watching a G/C do that zone protection shuffle-step where they seemingly can't figure out who to block and settle on nobody. We've had 2 shitty OL coaches in a row so maybe it's scheme, but since they're also our scouts we end up with bad players to match the bad coaching. I've watched the OL go from bad to worse over the last few years & expecting a rookie QB to fix all that makes no sense to me. For some reason people take that as a lack of faith in Burrow & it turns into.. whatever this is I don't want to see that talent thrown to the wolves because people think he's Superman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatternMaster Posted March 1, 2020 Report Share Posted March 1, 2020 6 minutes ago, T-Dub said: Need to add a real RT at least & probably another interior lineman. I think it's the idea of running Hart out there for another year that bothers me. It's harder to tell who is really screwing up inside but I'm also sick of watching a G/C do that zone protection shuffle-step where they seemingly can't figure out who to block and settle on nobody. I've watched the OL go from bad to worse over the last few years & expecting a rookie QB to fix all that makes no sense to me. For some reason people take that as a lack of faith in Burrow & it turns into.. whatever this is I really like Isaiah Wilson from UGA, hopefully they draft him in the second round Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dub Posted March 1, 2020 Report Share Posted March 1, 2020 11 minutes ago, PatternMaster said: I really like Isaiah Wilson from UGA, hopefully they draft him in the second round Sounds kind of raw, you think he's pro-ready enough to warrant 2-1? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted March 1, 2020 Report Share Posted March 1, 2020 48 minutes ago, T-Dub said: Sounds kind of raw, you think he's pro-ready enough to warrant 2-1? Hes raw.. Id say late third very early fourth.. Rams like him too... Sit and be mentored by Big Whit for a year... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dub Posted March 1, 2020 Report Share Posted March 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, claptonrocks said: Hes raw.. Id say late third very early fourth.. Rams like him too... Sit and be mentored by Big Whit for a year... Whit's a free agent. I'd say let him mentor our guys instead but I'm pretty sure that bridge was burned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted March 1, 2020 Report Share Posted March 1, 2020 5 minutes ago, T-Dub said: Whit's a free agent. I'd say let him mentor our guys instead but I'm pretty sure that bridge was burned. Maybe..probably so.. Pretty sure Rans bring him back for another season.. I think he likes it there now.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatternMaster Posted March 1, 2020 Report Share Posted March 1, 2020 2 hours ago, T-Dub said: Sounds kind of raw, you think he's pro-ready enough to warrant 2-1? He played for two years in the SEC, he's not coming straight outta high school... Getting a quality OT is just as hard as getting a quality QB, you may have to go a little early but it's worth it 1 hour ago, claptonrocks said: Hes raw.. Id say late third very early fourth.. Rams like him too... Sit and be mentored by Big Whit for a year... No way he makes it that far in the draft, he could be a first round pick. He was a 2 year starter on the best oline in the best conference in CFB. Drafting Wilson at the top of the second round would a great move to protect Burrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|SF2| Posted March 2, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2020 7 hours ago, PatternMaster said: He played for two years in the SEC, he's not coming straight outta high school... Getting a quality OT is just as hard as getting a quality QB, you may have to go a little early but it's worth it No way he makes it that far in the draft, he could be a first round pick. He was a 2 year starter on the best oline in the best conference in CFB. Drafting Wilson at the top of the second round would a great move to protect Burrow. Nah man. Guy is maybe a third rounder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snarkster Posted March 2, 2020 Report Share Posted March 2, 2020 Tua's becoming a bit of a jigsaw puzzle below the waist and he's close to 6'0" than his listed 6'1". Yeah, he's mobile, but Jeaux ain't exactly a statue and (excepting the most special cases), mobility in a college QB is somewhat mitigated by the size quickness upgrade he'll face in most NFL defenders across the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfine Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 Let it begin https://www.si.com/nfl/2020/03/09/tua-tagovailoa-cleared-football-activity-injury-nfl-draft Former Alabama quarterback Tua Tagovailoa has been cleared for all football activities, according to ESPN's Laura Rutledge. Tagovailoa will hold a pro day on April 9 after training in Nashville, per Rutledge. He did not participate in workouts at the NFL combine in Indianapolis, but he did meet with NFL teams as well as undergo a physical exam. Alabama team physician Dr. Lyle Cain said he was "ecstatic" with the results of Tagovailoa's scan on Monday, per Rutledge. Let Miami trade 5,18, and 39 for Joe and we'll take Tua at 5, Murray at 18, Best WR (Higgins) and OL (Niang) available at 33 and 39. Let Andy play out his contract while Tua gets 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cricket Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 30 minutes ago, bfine said: Let it begin https://www.si.com/nfl/2020/03/09/tua-tagovailoa-cleared-football-activity-injury-nfl-draft Former Alabama quarterback Tua Tagovailoa has been cleared for all football activities, according to ESPN's Laura Rutledge. Tagovailoa will hold a pro day on April 9 after training in Nashville, per Rutledge. He did not participate in workouts at the NFL combine in Indianapolis, but he did meet with NFL teams as well as undergo a physical exam. Alabama team physician Dr. Lyle Cain said he was "ecstatic" with the results of Tagovailoa's scan on Monday, per Rutledge. Let Miami trade 5,18, and 39 for Joe and we'll take Tua at 5, Murray at 18, Best WR (Higgins) and OL (Niang) available at 33 and 39. Let Andy play out his contract while Tua gets 100% ...and what is Plan B when a team trades up to the fourth pick to take Tua? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfine Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 7 minutes ago, Cricket said: ...and what is Plan B when a team trades up to the fourth pick to take Tua? Simmons at 5 and Mahomes Love at 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 36 minutes ago, bfine said: Simmons at 5 and Mahomes Love at 18 Youve made some interesting scenarios... I would listen ro the 3 Miami picks... Bottom line though I dont ever want to watch Dalton is stripes anymore..Enough allready.. Crazy as it may be this young man is the best thing to come to ths team since AJ Green.. I want him as the leader and no one else... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
membengal Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 12 hours ago, bfine said: Let it begin https://www.si.com/nfl/2020/03/09/tua-tagovailoa-cleared-football-activity-injury-nfl-draft Former Alabama quarterback Tua Tagovailoa has been cleared for all football activities, according to ESPN's Laura Rutledge. Tagovailoa will hold a pro day on April 9 after training in Nashville, per Rutledge. He did not participate in workouts at the NFL combine in Indianapolis, but he did meet with NFL teams as well as undergo a physical exam. Alabama team physician Dr. Lyle Cain said he was "ecstatic" with the results of Tagovailoa's scan on Monday, per Rutledge. Let Miami trade 5,18, and 39 for Joe and we'll take Tua at 5, Murray at 18, Best WR (Higgins) and OL (Niang) available at 33 and 39. Let Andy play out his contract while Tua gets 100% NO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky151 Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 15 hours ago, bfine said: Let it begin https://www.si.com/nfl/2020/03/09/tua-tagovailoa-cleared-football-activity-injury-nfl-draft Former Alabama quarterback Tua Tagovailoa has been cleared for all football activities, according to ESPN's Laura Rutledge. Tagovailoa will hold a pro day on April 9 after training in Nashville, per Rutledge. He did not participate in workouts at the NFL combine in Indianapolis, but he did meet with NFL teams as well as undergo a physical exam. Alabama team physician Dr. Lyle Cain said he was "ecstatic" with the results of Tagovailoa's scan on Monday, per Rutledge. Let Miami trade 5,18, and 39 for Joe and we'll take Tua at 5, Murray at 18, Best WR (Higgins) and OL (Niang) available at 33 and 39. Let Andy play out his contract while Tua gets 100% If Miami wants Burrow instead of Tua, it should cost them more than the Redskins paid to get RG3. That was 3 1sts and a 2nd. Burrow is a better prospect than RG3 was, and they're trading up to #1, not 2 (that was the year Luck went first overall). So it would or at least should take all 3 of Miami's first and both 2nds this year. That would be a nice haul in a generally good draft year. But we'd still need to replace Dalton and couldn't be confident Tua is there at 5. We'd probably sign Bridgewater or Winston in FA and trade Andy. Then use the picks to fix the O-line and defense. We would have 3 firsts plus 3 seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfine Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 5 hours ago, sparky151 said: If Miami wants Burrow instead of Tua, it should cost them more than the Redskins paid to get RG3. That was 3 1sts and a 2nd. Burrow is a better prospect than RG3 was, and they're trading up to #1, not 2 (that was the year Luck went first overall). So it would or at least should take all 3 of Miami's first and both 2nds this year. That would be a nice haul in a generally good draft year. But we'd still need to replace Dalton and couldn't be confident Tua is there at 5. We'd probably sign Bridgewater or Winston in FA and trade Andy. Then use the picks to fix the O-line and defense. We would have 3 firsts plus 3 seconds. Of course the three 1st rounders the Rams got for RGIII was over 3 years. That's less value than two 1st rounders in the current year. We may be able to get a little more, but I was being realistically conservative. Can't see the need to trade Andy in the scenario, Of course there's no guarantee that Tua would be there at 5, but an elite prospect will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky151 Posted March 11, 2020 Report Share Posted March 11, 2020 Yes, getting all the picks in the current year is part of the higher price than for RG3. Personally I'd be happy to let them keep the Texans first round pick this year in return for Miami's 1st in 2021 (likely in the top half of the draft with a rookie QB). But if we're aiming for Tua in this scenario, then Andy would be gone. We don't need a 17 mil backup QB. We could of course trade the top pick for a fortune, then keep Andy while building around him. But most of us would like a QB with a higher ceiling than Dalton offers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_C_Deadpeople Posted March 14, 2020 Report Share Posted March 14, 2020 With pro days and visits shut down it gets more intriguing with Tua as teams will not be able to gauge his medical progress Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|westside bengal| Posted March 14, 2020 Report Share Posted March 14, 2020 I am sure if Tua WANTS to be seen throwing we will see videos popping up in April. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky151 Posted March 15, 2020 Report Share Posted March 15, 2020 I expect free agency and the draft to be pushed back a month or two due to the virus. So Tua will have more time to heal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jupiter Fan Posted March 15, 2020 Report Share Posted March 15, 2020 I guess I'm missing the reason Miami would give up 3 1st round plus 2nd round picks for JB. They have further to go rebuild wise than we do. Fun to speculate but damn, let's be real. And I really like JB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted March 15, 2020 Report Share Posted March 15, 2020 1 minute ago, Jupiter Fan said: I guess I'm missing the reason Miami would give up 3 1st round plus 2nd round picks for JB. They have further to go rebuild wise than we do. Fun to speculate but damn, let's be real. And I really like JB. You b right . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
membengal Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 Rumors of other bad stuff in his medicals... Hard HARD pass: https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/armando-salguero/article241873141.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 7 hours ago, membengal said: Rumors of other bad stuff in his medicals... Hard HARD pass: https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/armando-salguero/article241873141.html Ok aside from a broken finger 2 bad ankles a serious hip problem and god knows wat else hes good to go right? Im sure all of it can be overlooked!..😎 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_C_Deadpeople Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 Someone will overlook it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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