New Orleans = Casualty of Iraq War

[Guest BlackJesus]

[u]Another Terrible Casualty of the Iraq War
How New Orleans was Lost
By PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS[/u]

Chalk up the city of New Orleans as a cost of Bush's Iraq war.

There were not enough helicopters to repair the breeched levees and rescue people trapped by rising water. Nor are there enough Louisiana National Guards available to help with rescue efforts and to patrol against looting.

The situation is the same in Mississippi.

The National Guard and helicopters are off on a fools mission in Iraq.

The National Guard is in Iraq because fanatical neoconsevatives in the Bush administration were determined to invade the Middle East and because the incompetent Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld refused to listen to the generals, who told him there were not enough regular troops available to do the job.

After the invasion, the arrogant Rumsfeld found out that the generals were right. The National Guard was called up to fill in the gaping gaps.

Now the Guardsmen, trapped in the Iraqi quagmire, are watching on TV the families they left behind trapped by rising waters and wondering if the floating bodies are family members. None know where their dislocated families are, but, shades of Fallujah, they do see their destroyed homes.

The mayor of New Orleans was counting on helicopters to put in place massive sandbags to repair the levee. However, someone called the few helicopters away to rescue people from rooftops. The rising water overwhelmed the massive pumping stations, and New Orleans disappeared under deep water.

What a terrible casualty of the Iraqi war--one of our oldest and most beautiful cities, a famous city, a historic city.

Distracted by its phony war on terrorism, the US government had made no preparations in the event Hurricane Katarina brought catastrophe to New Orleans. No contingency plan existed. Only now after the disaster are FEMA and the Corp of Engineers trying to assemble the material and equipment to save New Orleans from the fate of Atlantis.

Even worse, articles in the New Orleans Times-Picayune and public statements by emergency management chiefs in New Orleans make it clear that the [b]Bush administration slashed the funding for the Corp of Engineers' projects to strengthen and raise the New Orleans levees and diverted the money to the Iraq war. [/b]

Walter Maestri, emergency management chief for Jefferson Parish, told the New Orleans Times-Picayune (June 8, 2004): [i]"It appears that the money has been moved in the president's budget to handle homeland security and the war in Iraq, and I suppose that's the price we pay. Nobody locally is happy that the levees can't be finished, and we are doing everything we can to make the case that this is a security issue for us."[/i]

Why can't the US government focus on America's needs and leave other countries alone? Why are American troops in Iraq instead of protecting our own borders from a mass invasion by illegal immigrants? [b]Why are American helicopters blowing up Iraqi homes instead of saving American homes in New Orleans? [/b]

How can the Bush administration be so incompetent as to expose Americans at home to dire risks by exhausting American resources in foolish foreign adventures? What kind of "homeland security" is this?

All Bush has achieved by invading Iraq is to kill and wound thousands of people while destroying America's reputation. The only beneficiaries are oil companies capitalizing on a good excuse to jack up the price of gasoline and Osama bin Laden's recruitment.

What we have is a Republican war for oil company profits while New Orleans sinks beneath the waters.

[-GoBengals-]

i hate bush more than i hate just about anything else in the world..

but that article was fucking stupid.

[Guest steggyD]

[quote name='GoBengals' date='Sep 2 2005, 02:41 AM']i hate bush more than i hate just about anything else in the world..

but that article was fucking stupid.
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[Guest BlackJesus]

[u]New Orleans After Katrina [/u]

Tuesday night, as water rose to 20 feet through most of New Orleans, CNN relayed an advisory that food in refrigerators would last only four hours, would have to be thrown out. The next news item from CNN was an indignant bellow about "looters" of 7/11s and a Walmart. Making no attempt to conceal the racist flavor of the coverage, the press openly describes white survivors as "getting food from a flooded store," while blacks engaged in the same struggle for survival are smeared as "looters."

The reverence for property is now the underlying theme of many newscasts, with defense of The Gap being almost the first order of duty for the forces of law and order. But the citizens looking for clothes to wear and food to eat are made of tougher fiber and are more desperate than the polite demonstrators who guarded The Gap and kindred chains in Seattle in 1999. The police in New Orleans are only patrolling in large armed groups. One spoke of "meeting some resistance," as if the desperate citizens of New Orleans were Iraqi insurgents.

Also on Tuesday night the newscasts were reporting that in a city whose desperate state is akin the Dacca in Bangladesh a few years ago, there were precisely seven Coast Guard helicopters in operation. [b]Where are the National Guard helicopters? Presumably strafing Iraqi citizens on the roads outside Baghdad and Fallujah.[/b]

As the war's unpopularity soars, there will be millions asking, Why is the National Guard in Iraq, instead of helping the afflicted along the Gulf in the first crucial hours, before New Orleans, Biloxi, and Mobile turn into toxic toilet bowls with thousands marooned on the tops of houses.

As thousands of trapped residents face the real prospect of perishing for lack of a way out of the flooding city, [b]Bush's first response was to open the spigots of the Strategic Petroleum Reserve at the request of oil companies and to order the EPA to eliminate Clean Air standards at power plants and oil referiners across the nation, supposedly to increase fuel supplies--a goal long sought by his cronies at the big oil companies.[/b]

In his skittish Rose Garden press conference, Bush told the imperiled people of the Gulf Coast not to worry, the Corps of Engineers was on the way to begin the reconstruction of the Southland. [b]But these are the same cadre of engineers, who after three years of work, have yet to get water and electrical power running in Baghdad for more than three hours a day.[/b] [img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons//23.gif[/img]

It didn't have to be this bad. The entire city of New Orleans needed have been lost. Hundreds of people need not have perished. Yet, it now seems clear that the Bush administration sacrificed New Orleans to pursue its mad war on Iraq.

As the New Orleans Times-Picayune has reported in a devastating series of articles over the last two years, city and state officials and the Corps of Enginners had repeatedly requested funding to strengthen the levees along Lake Pontchartrain that breeched in the wake of the flood. But the Bush administration rebuffed the requests repeatedly, reprograming the funding from levee enhancement to Homeland Security and the war on Iraq.

This year the Bush administration slashed funding for the New Orleans Corps of Engineers by $71.2 million, a stunning 44.2 percent reduction from its 2001 levels. A Corps report noted at the time that
"major hurricane and flood protection projects will not be awarded to
local engineering firms. . . . Also, a study to determine ways to
protect the region from a Category 5 hurricane has been shelved for
now."

Work on the 17th Street levee, which breached on Monday night, came to a halt earlier this summer for the lack of $2 million.

"It appears that the money has been moved in the president's budget to handle homeland security and the war in Iraq, and I suppose that's the price we pay," Walter Maestri, emergency management chief for Jefferson Parish, Louisiana told the Times-Picayune in June of last year. "Nobody locally is happy that the levees can't be finished, and we are doing everything we can to make the case that this is a security issue for us."

These are damning revelation that should fuel calls from both parties for Bush's resignation or impeachment.

[b]The greatest concern for poor people in these days has come from President Hugo Chavez of Venezuela, who ­ fresh from a chat with Fidel Castro, has announced that Venezuela will be offering America's poor discounted gas through its Citgo chain.[/b] He's says his price will knock out the predatory pricing at every American pump. Citgo should issue to purchasers of each tankful of gas vouchers for free medical consultations via the internet with the Cuban doctors in Venezuela.

No politician in America has raised the issue of predatory pricing as gasoline soars above $3. The last time there was any critical talk about the oil companies was thirty years ago.

Maybe the terrible disaster along the Gulf coast will awaken people to the unjust ways in which our society works. That's often the effect of natural disasters, as with the Mexican earthquake, where the laggardly efforts of the police prompted ordinary citizens to take matters into their own hands.

[Guest steggyD]

Did you also know that our shadow government actually caused this hurricane to happen? It's true, it's all part of the plan, create major havoc, looting, oil rigs reported gone bad. Then raise the gas prices, make a killing off of that stuff.

Yeah, the government has been manipulating weather for years. We cause earthquakes too, remember the tsunami about 9 months ago?

[Guest BlackJesus]

[u]Bring Them Home...NOW!
The National Guard Belongs in New Orleans and Biloxi. Not Baghdad.
By NORMAN SOLOMON[/u]

The men and women of the National Guard shouldn't be killing in Iraq. They should be helping in New Orleans and Biloxi.

The catastrophic hurricane was an act of God. But the U.S. war effort in Iraq is a continuing act of the president. And now, that effort is hampering the capacity of the National Guard to save lives at home.

Before the flooding of New Orleans drastically escalated on Tuesday, the White House tried to disarm questions that could be politically explosive. "To those of you who are concerned about whether or not we're prepared to help, don't be, we are," President Bush said. "We're in place, we've got equipment in place, supplies in place, and once the -- once we're able to assess the damage, we'll be able to move in and help those good folks in the affected areas."

Echoing the official assurances, CBS News reported: "[b]Even though more than a third of Mississippi's and Louisiana's National Guard troops are either in Iraq or supporting the war effort[/b], the National Guard says there are more than enough at home to do the job."

But after New Orleans levees collapsed and the scope of the catastrophe became more clear, such reassuring claims lost credibility. The Washington Post reported on Wednesday: "With thousands of their citizen-soldiers away fighting in Iraq, states hit hard by Hurricane Katrina scrambled to muster forces for rescue and security missions yesterday -- calling up Army bands and water-purification teams, among other units, and requesting help from distant states and the active-duty military."

The back-page Post story added: "National Guard officials in the states acknowledged that the scale of the destruction is stretching the limits of available manpower while placing another extraordinary demand on their troops -- most of whom have already served tours in Iraq or Afghanistan or in homeland defense missions since 2001."

Speaking for the Mississippi National Guard, Lt. Andy Thaggard said: "Missing the personnel is the big thing in this particular event. We need our people." According to the Washington Post, [b]the Mississippi National Guard "has a brigade of more than 4,000 troops in central Iraq" while "Louisiana also has about 3,000 Guard troops in Baghdad."[/b]

National Guard troops don't belong in Iraq. They should be rescuing and protecting in Louisiana and Mississippi, not patrolling and killing in a country that was invaded on the basis of presidential deception. They should be fighting the effects of flood waters at home -- helping people in the communities they know best -- not battling Iraqi people who want them to go away.

Bring the National Guard home. Immediately.

[Guest BlackJesus]

[quote]Yeah, the government has been manipulating weather for years. We cause earthquakes too, remember the tsunami about 9 months ago?[/quote]

[color="blue"][i][b]Nice change of the subject by trying to focus on something that was not even implied..... good way not to focus on Bushs Fuck up

our National Guard is meant for things like this === National catastrophes instead they are being blown up in Iraq Nation Building[/color] [/b][/i]

[-Dan_Bengals_FL-]

[quote name='BlackJesus' date='Sep 2 2005, 02:46 AM']As thousands of trapped residents face the real prospect of perishing for lack of a way out of the flooding city, [b]Bush's first response was to open the spigots of the Strategic Petroleum Reserve at the request of oil companies and to order the EPA to eliminate Clean Air standards at power plants and oil referiners across the nation, supposedly to increase fuel supplies--a goal long sought by his cronies at the big oil companies.[/b]
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It's things like that, which really piss me off. I hate when politicians use disasters to push their own agenda.

[Guest BlackJesus]

[b]Brilliant [/b]




[u]Larisa Alexandrovna
Mr. Bush, Go Cheney Yourself! [/u]

We have no leadership, no captain at the helm as it were. We are, in effect, being led from disaster to disaster by a headless horseman run amok with stuffed pockets and an empty conscience.

[b][u]SUSPENDING HIGHER GROUND[/u][/b]

On September 11, 2001, The Vacationing and un-elected President of this country was tooling around on his holiday and even making time to fit in a little PR in Florida too.

Later it was the "bring it on" hubris of a boy-king, who had spent his entire life doing absolutely nothing of value, now deciding the fate of thousands upon thousands of people.

Still later, it was a Veruca Salt-like tantrum of "I want it now Daddy, I WANT IT NOW!" demanding of either Rummy or Cheney that he get his golden- egg- laying Goose.

Now this dim-witted and loathed bully of a child still sits on his beach blanket while "his" toy soldiers are sent to kill "his" toy victims. "Daddy, I WANT IT NOW!"

[b][u]Daddy VP Delivers:[/u][/b]

[b]So what happens when, once again, our leadership is sun-bathing and there is a national emergency? What happens when children are drowning in attics while others are burning in the sun on Cajun hot roofs? What happens to a great city like New Orleans when funding for emergency spending has been cut so that Bush can play war and "toys can kill toys?[/b]"

[b]What happens when the entire military and emergency resources of a nation – the ones not yet outsourced to Project Lying Bastards – are tied up in simulations of being prepared for emergencies, and by being tied up are not prepared at all?[/b]

Just a few of these simulations listed below, taking place over the last few weeks, have tied up all of our resources that are otherwise needed for a catastrophe like Katrina that is unfolding before our eyes:


[u][b]Town Hall Set, Roll Camera:[/b][/u]

So while children are drowning and others are floating around, dead in the water, the wannabe Yale cowboy struts around the set of his faux town hall meetings, has a bit of cake with John McCain, and takes in some fresh air in Colorado.

Congress? Anyone?

Dick? Where is Dick? Anyone?

Condi? Rummy? Any other Iran-Contra Folks?

Bueller? Bueller? Anyone?

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Hello?

So where does that leave us, the citizens of this raped, pillaged, terrorized, demoralized, freedom loving nation?

[b]Floating face down, eyes affixed on a once great New Orleans![/b]


[u][b]Screw you and the horse you rode in on[/b][/u]

I am more afraid of my leadership than I am of the looming “terrorist” threat. What is terrorism if not the instilling of “fear” on a consistent basis and negligence that results in massive death tolls? I am more afraid of this psychotic designer cowboy (and Yale cheerleader) and his circle of friends than I am of the color coded boogeyman used by a corrupt corporate brood to frighten the very people they are tasked with nurturing.

Are we really this stupid or do we just pretend to be in order to get a tax cut? [b]Where are the billionaires of this country who have so lovingly raped the conscience of a nation in order to get those few extra billions? [/b]

I can imagine fleets of private planes sent to Katrina’s ground zero and how many lives could be lifted and flown to safety. Imagination is good; it keeps us from going mad. [b]Pat Robertson, that bastion of Christian pay-per-view values, is worth upwards of half a billion dollars. Care to write a check, Pat?[/b]

[b]How about ExxonMobil, Halliburton, and other war profiteers, you guys want to help out for operation Save the Drowning Children?[/b]


[u][b]Homeland Front Group[/b][/u]

What happens when Chertoff (whose name actually means "of the Devil" in Russian) decides to forgo civil liberties in general and abuses his office, err, industrial department of Homeland Security? What happens when these Homelanders declare Martial Law in order to keep people from looting, but will not supply them with water, food, and other life sustaining supplies?

Apparently not a damn thing.

[b]After all, no blond "good Christian" wealthy Republican children are drowning. Fox News anchors sit laughing at this tragedy but cry and piss on themselves because a blond girl on an island went missing (no offense to the family of the missing girl). [/b]

[b]Do you realize that one person - one single person who is white, blond haired, and blue eyed - is more important to the networks than the thousands of black children spiraling to their deaths in a swirl of sewage in a once historic city?[/b] [img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons//41.gif[/img]

Looting is what the networks are covering, as though such activity is "typical" of what "black people" do. The majority of residents left behind were the poor, who - due to the inexcusable mismanagement of emergency resources, coupled with high oil prices - were unable to leave on their own. The poor in this country happen to be minorities, so the people left behind were minorities.

Take away food, water, and other supplies and what should someone do? Swim over to an ATM and get some soggy money out? Or maybe dive in, holding their breath, and swim through their underwater living room looking for a lost wallet? Not to worry, the Pentagon is on its way, Martial law is declared, journalists are forced out, and those saved are happily dining on cat food.
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[b]Bush's cutting of his vacation short by a whole two hours - jetting off to DC, from where he can look Presidential -- is almost as timely as is him finally putting down My Pet Goat. [/b] [img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons//24.gif[/img] [img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons//24.gif[/img] [img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons//24.gif[/img]

And where is that treasure of a mother, that national “I love my gay daughter when it works for the campaign” bastion of integrity? Lynn Cheney, the doyenne of Christian values, is probably rehearsing her “I am an indignant mother” routine, somewhere in the bowls of her underground mansion. Because she is not out, carrying buckets or collecting donations or for god’s sake doing something to help the people of “her country.”

Congress is still on vacation even though we are witnessing a national tragedy that could produce the worst death toll in recent US history.

[b]Condi’s father – a prominent minister and educator - is spinning in his grave as black women and children drown, while Condi stands and shills somewhere – who the hell knows where – on how we are spreading Democracy. As though such a thing as Democracy could be spread through rape, torture, and murder, like some venereal disease.[/b]

Where is the god damn leadership of this country? Dick, Condi, Rummy, anyone? Bueller? Anyone?


[u][b]Screw It[/b][/u]

There is no representation of the people and there is no care for the people, just as long as the consumer keeps on consuming and the breeder keeps on breeding. We are a commodity, nothing more. How else to explain such indifference and barrage of smiling, giggling photo ops?

How else to explain the military allegiance to a small group of men and not to the country and its people? A Secret Service agent will take a bullet for a traitor or put one into an innocent person for a group of traitors, but will not come out as a whistleblower against a treasonous leadership gluttonous on its power binge. Yes, what a noble job, to be privy to atrocity after atrocity and still bow down and say “sir, may I have another?”

I am horrified at this gross neglect, abuse of power, and absolute disregard for decency. I remember Lynn Cheney, in her smarmy over-glossed way, staging that attack on John Kerry - who unlike her war dodging husband and ruthless corporate dictator, managed to go to Vietnam, come back to fight for the rights of soldiers and against an illegal war, and serve his country for 30+ years. Speaking of Kerry, Lynn said – memorably - “this is not a good man.”

Oh? Mrs. Cheney, Mrs. Bush (all of you, collectively), given that you are mothers, do explain to us what any of your husbands has ever done that did not directly benefit himself and/or his friends financially? One act of note, of real noble value should be easy to locate from such “good men” as these.

What have you fine ladies done with your very public time? Well Lynn wrote a little sexy Romance novel, and Laura is in charge of “gangs,” whatever the hell that means.

Why are you fine mothers not swimming in the sea of New Orleans rescuing children? Why are you not screaming in horror as the Children’s Hospital becomes slowly submerged under water?

How about one Christian act of selflessness that you and yours have done (excluding large charitable donations that pay out in bigger tax cuts)? Such good Christians should have armies of cross-worthy accomplishments.

[b]One example is all that is needed for a full pardon from us, the small “we the people” who can die for this country, bleed for this country, starve in this country, and work to death in this country so that “you, the employees” can have cocktail parties and take the twins to NYC for fashion week.[/b]


[u][b]Twins? You girls shopping okay?[/b][/u]

This entire lot is nothing more than a bunch of hooligans, all of whom should be held accountable for dereliction of duty, crimes against the citizens of this nation, and crimes against humanity.

My god, cutting funding (alone, without adding the negligence and middle finger to “duty”) for emergency services to pay off the already rich “Bush Pioneers” in tax cuts, results in this: death. [b]What will the Bush minions say now: “We did not know that a Hurricane could or would do that?” [/b] [img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons//23.gif[/img]

Odd, we knew about hurricanes, especially those of us who went through four of them last year in a three week run. FEMA warned of them for New Orleans starting in 2001. We knew. Scientists knew. So did city of New Orleans via its mayor who repeatedly asked for government funding, over and over, and over. In fact, every rational person on the planet knows that the top priority of a good leader is "the people", not his frat house pals!

Tax cuts to the top-already-grossly-rich 2% of the nation over the duties to the other 98% of the people, is unpardonable!

We have to sit and watch the myriad of horrors inflicted on us and on others on behalf of us: Dick simulates, Bush tans, Laura reads, twins go shopping, Lynn writes trite tales of love, and a psychotic Rummy tortures, rapes, and murders in our name.

[u][b]That about cover it? Not quite.[/b][/u]

Mr. Bush, go Cheney yourself!

And Mr. Cheney, take your war games, your Rummy, Rove, Condi, Hadley, Libby, and especially your over priced and frozen over wife, and shove them up your Ashcroft.

[Guest steggyD]

[quote name='BlackJesus' date='Sep 2 2005, 02:50 AM'][color="blue"][i][b]Nice change of the subject by trying to focus on something that was not even implied..... good way not to focus on Bushs Fuck up

our National Guard is meant for things like this === National catastrophes instead they are being blown up in Iraq Nation Building[/color] [/b][/i]
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I didn't change the subject. It works right along with everything else. They hijack planes, crash them into our own buildings, our government does. Then we pick a couple countries to "declare war" on. We don't have enough military, due to downsizing, so we send national guard over to help these people who decide to blow themselves up, along with whoever is near them. The people back home are getting a little too cozy. They are not buying into this patriot act stuff as much as the government would like, and other such issues. Plus, gas prices are high, but they can be even higher, right? So, what does the government do next? The most logical conclusion ever. Start a hurricane, a huge one, and run it right through the Gulf, where it can "destroy" oil rigs and refineries, and then destroy a gulf town, a very well populated one. Of course, it will be full of brown people, so that this all looks even better. Knowing that the National Guard is in Iraq, trying to dismantle bombs attached to any given person, the people of the area will flip out and riots will break out. Then the gas prices will rise around the country, because of course, they'll keep buying it, even up to $5 a gallon. People will never stop driving, let's test it out, right. As if selling gas at a reasonable price to more wasn't enough, sell 1/4 the amount of gas at a higher price, then the gas companies break even, they hope. Now, the economy falls apart, and our national guard is still in Iraq or maybe even Iran by this point in time. Riots begin to break out around the nation, due to long gas lines, high prices, lack of employment, etc. So, the government declares marshall law. But of course, there are no troops to really use for enforcing marshall law, because they are all dead, after fighting off Syrians and Saudis. So all of the citizens just kill each other off, and the gas companies sell gas to the invading foreigners, because they're going to drive all the cars that are left lying around the nation, after all the citizens offed each other. THE END.

[Guest steggyD]

[quote name='Dan_Bengals_NJ' date='Sep 2 2005, 02:55 AM']It's things like that, which really piss me off. I hate when politicians use disasters to push their own agenda.
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Oh yeah, I forgot to add this into my timeline.

Thinking ahead and helping to ease inevitable rising prices of oil is such a horrible thing to do. Shame on the Pres.

[Guest BlackJesus]

[color="green"][i][b]Steggy.... you can poke fun at the assinine theory of starting a hurricane all you want....(which no one is eveb claiming) it doesn't hide the fact that as a Nation our National Guard is playing Empire in Iraq right now being blown up when they should have been in the US ready to help the Nation !!! Also Bush barley cut his vacation short by a few hours and was asleep at the wheel just like he was when he wet his pants on 9/11 sitting in the classroom.... he has a derelection of intelligence and action that should be obvious to someone as intelligent as yourself... but I guess we weave a tangled web when we don't want to believe we are being duped. I sure was before the election.....[/b][/i][/color]

[Guest BlackJesus]

[i][b]If these drowning kids were white, christian, and in Aruba.... the Nation would be up in arms fighting over eachother to help... Hell Bush would probably have dropped his chainsaw from cutting fake brush at the ranch and personally throw some fake eye drops in his eyes and at least gave a tearful fake speech. Sorry Keyante' wrong color.... try not to choke on the sewage.... [img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/28.gif[/img] [/b][/i]

[Guest BengalBacker]

You amaze me BJ.

Conflict management eh?

You always manage to see at least one side of a conflict, I'll give you that.

[Guest BlackJesus]

[quote]You amaze me BJ.

Conflict management eh?[/quote]

[i][b]actually no it is Conflict Analysis & Resolution

However with that comes the understanding that some conflicts are not resolveable and that some conflicts are inherently healthy and must play themselves out. Then even further my specialty is Seperatist movements and groups. (9 predominate ones) however it is precisley because I understand the origin of conflict that I am not blind to the hardships and systematic injstice implanted on others. As for blunt language... I call it like I see it. [/b][/i]

[Homer_Rice]

[quote]while Condi stands and shills somewhere[/quote]

Condi Rice = Hattie the Witch

[Guest oldschooler]

[quote name='BlackJesus' date='Sep 2 2005, 12:50 AM'][color="blue"][i][b]Nice change of the subject by trying to focus on something that was not even implied..... good way not to focus on Bushs Fuck up

our National Guard is meant for things like this === National catastrophes instead they are being blown up in Iraq Nation Building[/color] [/b][/i]
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The Government is sending AT LEAST 40,000 troops to
help out in New Orleans and other places ravaged by
the Hurricane. The war in Iraq has NOTHING to do with
what is going on down in New Orleans...my God.

Why am I not surprised that Left Wing nut jobs are trying
to blame this stupid shit on Bush and the war ? :roll:

[Guest oldschooler]

[quote name='BlackJesus' date='Sep 2 2005, 01:43 AM'][i][b]If these drowning kids were white, christian, and in Aruba.... the Nation would be up in arms fighting over eachother to help... Hell Bush would probably have dropped his chainsaw from cutting fake brush at the ranch and personally throw some fake eye drops in his eyes and at least gave a tearful fake speech.  Sorry Keyante' wrong color.... try not to choke on the sewage....  [img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons//28.gif[/img] [/b][/i]
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:roll:


Dumbest fucking post of the day.
Do you actually think that the Nation isn`t
worried about these people ?

Do you actually think that race and religion
has anything to do with this shit ?

Oh wait...what am I thinking ?
Of course you do....


Yeah I`m sure they`re just picking through and
rescuing any White Christians that look like they`re
middle class...

[Jason]

Most of the National Guard in Iraq are trained soldiers. They are combat experts. Who in NO do they need to fight? There are plenty of National Guard who are trained for relief efforts and support, and those will be, and are in NO.

[ryanham]

Funny how people love to point out how biased the media is being with they show white people "finding food" and black people "looting", but it's not media bias when people are obviously way off base about what troops are doing over in Iraq.

The Army Corp of Engineers can't keep electricity on in Bahgdad because insurgents keep BLOWING UP THE WORK THEY JUST DID. We don't have insurgents in New Orleans trying to kill government officials...well...at least no one that organized.

Also, how could you expect someone to see into the future and say "Hey, you know what, in August a big ass hurricane will strike New Orleans and the gulf coast, flooding the city and putting peoples lives in danger. That means we shouldn't send National Guardsmen over to Iraq to help stop jackasses from killing my neighbor and the other millions of innocents." I might be wrong, but it's possible that no one in the White House, or the current administration for that matter, owns a crystal ball.

Although sometimes I do think Bush uses a Magic 8 Ball...

Disclaimer: I am neither Republican nor Democrat, I just hate Dumbasses.

[Jason]

Leave it to the friggin Democrats to get political in a time of disaster like this when we should be uniting to help these people!

[Guest bengalrick]

[quote name='Jason' date='Sep 2 2005, 09:27 AM']Leave it to the friggin Democrats to get political in a time of disaster like this when we should be uniting to help these people!
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i think that i will try to stay out of this fucking RETARDED thread... thanks for uniting us while we need to be one bj...

[Guest BlackJesus]

[quote]thanks for uniting us while we need to be one bj...[/quote]

[color="green"][i][b]hey if you call supporting idiotic press conferences and photo ops and Bush taking 3 days to end his vacation while people in wheel chairs drown uniting then fine..... fly overs in air force one are great .... but the incompetence of this government to handle any sort of catastrophe, or prepare for one in advance is disgraceful, laughable, and revolting. The propaganda machine is focuging on the sewage drinched teenagers running off with sneakers while thousands of bodies float in the streets.... The Mayor of New Orleans himself told Bush to "get off his ass and do something" this morning....... it is a disgrace.... but not surpising that the same guy who played golf while memos reading "Bin Laden about to attack" would also stay on the Ranch while we had several days notice to evacuate the poor and elderly. Which oh by the way we provided the poor no evacuation.... I guess Bush forgot that not everybody has millions in Oil money and can jump on private jets when shit hits the fan.....

fucking disgusting that people equate loyalty to incompetence and betrayal of our own American people dying on roof tops [/b][/i][/color]

[Guest oldschooler]

[quote name='BlackJesus' date='Sep 2 2005, 09:45 AM'][color="green"][i][b]hey if you call supporting idiotic press conferences and photo ops and Bush taking 3 days to end his vacation while people in wheel chairs drown uniting then fine..... fly overs in air force one are great .... but the incompetence of this government to handle any sort of catastrophe, or prepare for one in advance is disgraceful, laughable, and revolting.  The propaganda machine is focuging on the sewage drinched teenagers running off with sneakers while thousands of bodies float in the streets.... The Mayor of New Orleans himself told Bush to "get off his ass and do something" this morning....... it is a disgrace.... but not surpising that the same guy who played golf while memos reading "Bin Laden about to attack" would also stay on the Ranch while we had several days notice to evacuate the poor and elderly.  Which oh by the way we provided the poor no evacuation.... I guess Bush forgot that not everybody has millions in Oil money and can jump on private jets when shit hits the fan..... 

fucking disgusting that people equate loyalty to incompetence and betrayal of our own American people dying on roof tops [/b][/i][/color]
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What`s even more fucking disgusting is using a National
tragedy as yet ANOTHER fucking platform to bash Bush.

I think what Rick was saying is that there is MORE than enough
shit that has already polarized this Nation..and in a time of tragedy
we should unite and not make it into political bullshit rhetoric
filled platform for you to whack off on...

At least that`s what I got out of it...

[Guest BlackJesus]

[i]"I keep hearing that it's coming. This is coming. That is coming. My answer to that is B.S. Where is the beef? They're feeding the people a line of bull, and they are spinning and people are dying" [/i]
[b]--- New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin [/b]



[b]=[/b] Federal Emergency Management Director Michael Brown told CNN that federal officials were unaware of the crowds at the convention center until Thursday and thus did not begin to drop any supplies, despite the fact that city officials had been telling people for days to gather there.