MrChadRico Posted April 3, 2020 Report Share Posted April 3, 2020 Hola Bengals fans! I hope it's okay with you guys that I drop in for a friendly NFL Draft convo. I'm a Dolphins fan, who posts on Finheaven.com and weve been talking about the draft alot, like I'm sure you guys have been and I have a few questions for you guys. 1) Would you guys want to trade down and what would it cost? So we have the #5, #18, #26, #39, #56 in the first 2 rounds as well as 2 picks in every round 3-7. We also have all of our picks in 2021 as well as Houstons 1st and 2nd rounder. Most of the proposals I've seen tossed around are Cin #1 for Mia #5, #18, #39 and a 1st or 2nd in 2021 or #5, #18, CB Xavian Howard and a mid round pick? Personally I think the Dolphins would be paying too much in the first proposal and I hate to lose Howard in the second one, but weve needed a QB for 20 years and if Burrow is finaly the guy then we will live with it and be happy. Do either of those deals work for you guys? If not what deal would you be happy with? 2) Having studied the 3 QBs at the top, Burrow, Tua and Herbert; how much better is Burrow really than the other 2? I've admittedly spent alot more time researching Tua, Love and Herbert than I have Burrow. I'm curious how you guys have them ranked. Do you have Burrow way ahead of the others? The consensus on the Dolphins board is that they want Tua, no matter the cost, even over Burrow. Personally Tua's injury history and size scares me to death so i would personally rather see us trade up with you guys to get Burrow. Herbert is a freak athlete but our fans hate the idea of drafting Herbert and I cant give a good excuse why, other than "he reminds us of Tannehill" its ridiculous. 3) if you guys did trade down and got the #5 and #18 pick, who would you guys want at those spots? Thank you guys in advance for letting me come over and have this convo and good luck in the draft! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicoli Posted April 3, 2020 Report Share Posted April 3, 2020 Fuck no! GTFOH with that shit! If the Miami brass wants Burrow so bad, why the fuck wouldn't we want him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
membengal Posted April 3, 2020 Report Share Posted April 3, 2020 Welcome. No. There is nothing you could offer. Maybe 10 number one picks? Even then, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted April 3, 2020 Report Share Posted April 3, 2020 My strong preference is to stay at 1 and take Burrow. If somehow you could acquire pick 2, I might consider it. Because Tua is the only other QB in this draft I’m remotely interested in. Or you would have to give us all of your 1s this year AND 2 first round picks next year so we can move up for Lawrence or Fields. But that’s not happening, so I’m perfectly happy to stay at 1 and take Burrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|SF2| Posted April 3, 2020 Report Share Posted April 3, 2020 Yes, MrChadRico, I would love to trade. I want the #5, #18, #39 and your second first round pick for next year. Don't listen to all these "Get off My Lawn" grumpy old men with their ball sacks hanging around their knees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akiliMVP Posted April 3, 2020 Report Share Posted April 3, 2020 Fuck no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|SF2| Posted April 3, 2020 Report Share Posted April 3, 2020 26 minutes ago, akiliMVP said: Fuck no Be nice to our guest, he isn't from Pissburgh or Cleveland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfine Posted April 3, 2020 Report Share Posted April 3, 2020 1 hour ago, spicoli said: Fuck no! GTFOH with that shit! If the Miami brass wants Burrow so bad, why the fuck wouldn't we want him? You live in Cincinnati, not Cleveland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfine Posted April 3, 2020 Report Share Posted April 3, 2020 1 hour ago, MrChadRico said: Hola Bengals fans! I hope it's okay with you guys that I drop in for a friendly NFL Draft convo. I'm a Dolphins fan, who posts on Finheaven.com and weve been talking about the draft alot, like I'm sure you guys have been and I have a few questions for you guys. 1) Would you guys want to trade down and what would it cost? So we have the #5, #18, #26, #39, #56 in the first 2 rounds as well as 2 picks in every round 3-7. We also have all of our picks in 2021 as well as Houstons 1st and 2nd rounder. Most of the proposals I've seen tossed around are Cin #1 for Mia #5, #18, #39 and a 1st or 2nd in 2021 or #5, #18, CB Xavian Howard and a mid round pick? Personally I think the Dolphins would be paying too much in the first proposal and I hate to lose Howard in the second one, but weve needed a QB for 20 years and if Burrow is finaly the guy then we will live with it and be happy. Do either of those deals work for you guys? If not what deal would you be happy with? 2) Having studied the 3 QBs at the top, Burrow, Tua and Herbert; how much better is Burrow really than the other 2? I've admittedly spent alot more time researching Tua, Love and Herbert than I have Burrow. I'm curious how you guys have them ranked. Do you have Burrow way ahead of the others? The consensus on the Dolphins board is that they want Tua, no matter the cost, even over Burrow. Personally Tua's injury history and size scares me to death so i would personally rather see us trade up with you guys to get Burrow. Herbert is a freak athlete but our fans hate the idea of drafting Herbert and I cant give a good excuse why, other than "he reminds us of Tannehill" its ridiculous. 3) if you guys did trade down and got the #5 and #18 pick, who would you guys want at those spots? Thank you guys in advance for letting me come over and have this convo and good luck in the draft! My apologies; not all Bengals fans are asshats. Burrow is coming off the greatest season in the history of college football and it's going to take a lot to go elsewhere. Some people who have defended Andy for years and say "it's not just the QB" would not even consider 4 first round picks (3 2020, 1 2021) for him. If there were guarantees that Tua would be there I'd take it, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|High School Harry| Posted April 3, 2020 Report Share Posted April 3, 2020 2 hours ago, MrChadRico said: Hola Bengals fans! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|High School Harry| Posted April 3, 2020 Report Share Posted April 3, 2020 Dang! I knew this was going to be a great thread... Carry on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|westside bengal| Posted April 3, 2020 Report Share Posted April 3, 2020 I am not part of the Bengals organization but as a fan for me to think about a trade the Bengals would need all of Miami's 2020 picks and I would need tax free ownership of a Miami Beach ocean front mansion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted April 3, 2020 Report Share Posted April 3, 2020 If all 3 first round picks plus pick 39 and your second 1st rounder in 2021 Id think long and hard.. Ok ive thought long and hard and if you want him that bad why wouldnt we?.. Tua is busted up.. Herbert doesnt do much for me. Joe Burrow is going to be a Bengal...sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky151 Posted April 3, 2020 Report Share Posted April 3, 2020 4 hours ago, MrChadRico said: Hola Bengals fans! I hope it's okay with you guys that I drop in for a friendly NFL Draft convo. I'm a Dolphins fan, who posts on Finheaven.com and weve been talking about the draft alot, like I'm sure you guys have been and I have a few questions for you guys. 1) Would you guys want to trade down and what would it cost? So we have the #5, #18, #26, #39, #56 in the first 2 rounds as well as 2 picks in every round 3-7. We also have all of our picks in 2021 as well as Houstons 1st and 2nd rounder. Most of the proposals I've seen tossed around are Cin #1 for Mia #5, #18, #39 and a 1st or 2nd in 2021 or #5, #18, CB Xavian Howard and a mid round pick? Personally I think the Dolphins would be paying too much in the first proposal and I hate to lose Howard in the second one, but weve needed a QB for 20 years and if Burrow is finaly the guy then we will live with it and be happy. Do either of those deals work for you guys? If not what deal would you be happy with? 2) Having studied the 3 QBs at the top, Burrow, Tua and Herbert; how much better is Burrow really than the other 2? I've admittedly spent alot more time researching Tua, Love and Herbert than I have Burrow. I'm curious how you guys have them ranked. Do you have Burrow way ahead of the others? The consensus on the Dolphins board is that they want Tua, no matter the cost, even over Burrow. Personally Tua's injury history and size scares me to death so i would personally rather see us trade up with you guys to get Burrow. Herbert is a freak athlete but our fans hate the idea of drafting Herbert and I cant give a good excuse why, other than "he reminds us of Tannehill" its ridiculous. 3) if you guys did trade down and got the #5 and #18 pick, who would you guys want at those spots? Thank you guys in advance for letting me come over and have this convo and good luck in the draft! Welcome to Go-Bengals. 1 The team isn't very interested in trading down. Personally, I'm also not interested. It would take a knockout offer, something better than the RG3 trade (3 1sts and a 2nd) to get Burrow imo. 2 Yes, I rate Burrow as clearly better than Tua or Herbert. Herbert reminds me of Gabbert, a guy who has the tools but not the production to justify a high first round pick. Tua seems injury prone and also didn't elevate his team mates as much as Burrow did. Burrow's arm strength is average but serviceable. Most QB arms get stronger during their NFL career so I don't see it as an issue. The other knock on him is he was a 1 year wonder. He played pretty well late in 2018, then obviously much better once Brady arrived at LSU. If I were convinced Tua would stay healthy (I'm not convinced of that), then he would be a clear 2nd best QB prospect in this draft. 3 If we got a godfather offer and traded down, then we might sign Winston or Newton as QB. Tanking for Trevor isn't really an option. Pick 5 would likely be Simmons if available or an OT. Pick 18 could be a LB or WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akiliMVP Posted April 3, 2020 Report Share Posted April 3, 2020 Trading down to 5 doesn't guarantee them Tua. Tua is the only QB even remotely close to Burrow. Settling for a huge downgrade in Herbert with 5 would be a major loss. The fit, value and need is too good for them to trade away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted April 3, 2020 Report Share Posted April 3, 2020 1 hour ago, akiliMVP said: Trading down to 5 doesn't guarantee them Tua. Tua is the only QB even remotely close to Burrow. Settling for a huge downgrade in Herbert with 5 would be a major loss. The fit, value and need is too good for them to trade away. Youd think Miami would trade fir the Skins second pick and get Tua.. No..that owner is sold lock stock and barrell over JB... I can see all this playing out again next year for Lawrence... Oh btw whos the only QB to beat Trevor Lawrence?...You know...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sox Posted April 4, 2020 Report Share Posted April 4, 2020 Not interested.If teams are willing to part with a zillion picks,that means he's worth spending our single first round pick on. As far as management,Mike Brown loves QB's,and more importantly,money.Draft Burrow,immediate excitement and new season ticket holders as well as a new fan base in SE Ohio. Trade him? Fans will leave,and they will hemorrhage the season ticket holders they still have. It's not going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Posted April 4, 2020 Report Share Posted April 4, 2020 Hell to the fuck no.. Not unless it was number 2.. I have a feeling Tua will be better in the short term, but Burrow will be better long term and win more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whodey365 Posted April 4, 2020 Report Share Posted April 4, 2020 It would take the Bengals absolutely fleecing Miami. I'm thinking all the picks. At least all 1s and 2s this year and a 1 and 2 next year. I don't know if Brown even goes for that. He passed up a ridiculous offer to stay put and draft Akili Smith. You can't write a better story than Joe Burrow to the Bengals and it's the quickest way to get fans back in the stands. Also you have to wonder if Brown would rather pay 1 first round picks salary as opposed to 3 this year. If Cincy did trade out I'd look at Herbert or just ride Dalton 1 more year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatternMaster Posted April 4, 2020 Report Share Posted April 4, 2020 No reason to trade, every other QB in the draft has major red flags and this franchise needs QB moreso than any other position. Besides do think Mike Brown wants to pay 3-5 first round picks over the next two years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluhartz Posted April 4, 2020 Report Share Posted April 4, 2020 nope/bye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOF dan Posted April 4, 2020 Report Share Posted April 4, 2020 12 hours ago, Sox said: Not interested.If teams are willing to part with a zillion picks,that means he's worth spending our single first round pick on. As far as management,Mike Brown loves QB's,and more importantly,money.Draft Burrow,immediate excitement and new season ticket holders as well as a new fan base in SE Ohio. Trade him? Fans will leave,and they will hemorrhage the season ticket holders they still have. It's not going to happen. That pretty much sums it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|SF2| Posted April 4, 2020 Report Share Posted April 4, 2020 16 hours ago, claptonrocks said: If all 3 first round picks plus pick 39 and your second 1st rounder in 2021 Id think long and hard.. Ok ive thought long and hard and if you want him that bad why wouldnt we?.. Tua is busted up.. Herbert doesnt do much for me. Joe Burrow is going to be a Bengal...sorry They have a bunch of picks next year as well. Plus their organization is pretty dysfunctional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted April 4, 2020 Report Share Posted April 4, 2020 Joe Burrow will be a Cincinnati Bengal. Bet on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted April 4, 2020 Report Share Posted April 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Jamie_B said: Joe Burrow will be a Cincinnati Bengal. Bet on it. You betcha!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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