bfine Posted April 17, 2020 Report Share Posted April 17, 2020 Jason and I (Clapton picked for the Browns) did a RD 1 mock last week and below are the results 1. Cincinnati Bengals- JOE BURROW/QB 2. Washington Redskins- CHASE YOUNG/DE 3. Detroit Lions- JEFF OKUDAH/CB 4. New York Giants- JEDRICK WILLIS/OT 5. Miami Dolphins- JUSTIN HERBERT/QB 6. Los Angeles Chargers- TUA T./QB 7. Carolina Panthers- DERREK BROWN/DT 8. Arizona Cardinals- ISAIAH SIMMONS/LB 9. Jacksonville Jaguars- TRISTAN WIRFS/OT 10. Cleveland Browns- ANDREW THOMAS/OT 11. New York Jets- CEEDEE LAMB/WR 12. Las Vegas Raiders- HENRY RUGGS III/WR 13. San Francisco 49ers (from Indianapolis)- JAVON KINLAW/DT 14. Tampa Bay Buccaneers- MEKHAI BECTON/OT 15. Denver Broncos- JERRY JUDY/WR 16. Atlanta Falcons- K'LAVON CHASSION/DE 17. Dallas Cowboys- CJ HENDERSON/CB 18. Miami Dolphins (from Pittsburgh)- JUSTIN JEFFERSON/WR 19. Las Vegas Raiders (from Chicago)- KENNETH MURRAY/LB 20. Jacksonville Jaguars (from LAR)-BRANDON AIYUK/WR 21. Philadelphia Eagles- TEE HIGGINS/WR 22. Minnesota (from Buffalo)- ROSS BLACKLOCK/DT 23. New England Patriots- JACOB EAISON/QB 24. New Orleans Saints- PATRICK QUEEN/LB 25. Minnesota Vikings- KRISTIAN FULTON/CB 26. Miami Dolphins (from Houston)- JOSH JONES/0T 27. Seattle Seahawks- YETUR GROSS-MATOS/DE 28. Baltimore Ravens- DENZEL MIMS/WR 29. Tennessee Titans- XAVIER MCKINNEY/S 30. Green Bay Packers- LEVISKA SHENAULT/WR 31. San Francisco 49ers- TRAVON DIGGS/RB 32. Kansas City Chiefs- JONATHAN TAYLOR/RB Now the Bengals are on the clock with pick #33. Who do you have? After a couple days of suggesting we will take the most suggested and complete RD 2. Our goal will be to get to the Bengals’ 3rd rounder before the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfine Posted April 17, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2020 Below is who NFL.COM has as top rated remain in each position (overall grade): RB D’ANDRE SWIFT (6.78) CLYDE EDWARDS-HELAIRE (6.39) WR MICHAEL PITTMAN (6.38) JALEN REGOR (6.36) BRYAN EDWARDS (6.35) TE COLE KMET (6.34) HARRISON BRYANT (6.32) OT ISAIAH WILSON (6.34) AUSTIN JACKSON (6.34) ROBERT HUNT (6.34) Interior CESAR RUIZ (6.40) JOHN SIMPSON (6.35) LLOYD CUSHENBERRY (6.32) DE MARION DAVIDSON (6.35) AJ ESPENSA (6.35) JULIAN OKWARA (6.30) DT JORDAN ELLIOTT (6.36) RAEKWON DAVIS (6.35) JUSTIN MADUBUIKE (6.34) LB ZACK BAUN (6.50) MALIK HARRISON (6.34) LOGAN WILSON (6.33) CB JEFF GLADNEY (6.40) JAYLON JOHNSON (6.37) AJ TERRELL (6.36) S ANTOINE WINFIELD JR (6.36) KYLE DUGGER (6.34) ASHTON DAVIS (6.33) You can research here: https://www.nfl.com/draft/tracker/prospects Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HavePityPlease Posted April 17, 2020 Report Share Posted April 17, 2020 For me it's Cesar Ruiz Reasoning? We still don't have a starting RG on the roster (IMO) and while my secondary instinct is OT, I think it's higher value to plug Ruiz in at RG *and* he's a plug-and-play backup for Hopkins at C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
membengal Posted April 17, 2020 Report Share Posted April 17, 2020 Reagor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted April 17, 2020 Report Share Posted April 17, 2020 Isaiah Wilson at 2.... DeAndre Swift thought he was usefull!! Btw i like your Raiders picks!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengaled Posted April 17, 2020 Report Share Posted April 17, 2020 I'm torn between Baun and Espeneza. I think Espenesa is the better value, but Baun does some of the things he does and could add LB help. Isaiah Wilson is growing on me, as a tackle would be my first choice all things being equal, but they're not. Baun would be my choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicoli Posted April 17, 2020 Report Share Posted April 17, 2020 Isaiah Wilson for me as well. Definitely wouldn't be mad at Pittman or Winfield though. I like Davidson a lot too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_C_Deadpeople Posted April 17, 2020 Report Share Posted April 17, 2020 1 minute ago, bengaled said: I'm torn between Baun and Espeneza. I think Espenesa is the better value, but Baun does some of the things he does and could add LB help. Isaiah Wilson is growing on me, as a tackle would be my first choice all things being equal, but they're not. Baun would be my choice. I know less about scouting LB's as the Bengals scouts...good grief i hope we can find a good LB this draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfine Posted April 18, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2020 4 hours ago, I_C_Deadpeople said: I know less about scouting LB's as the Bengals scouts...good grief i hope we can find a good LB this draft I think money would be getting Willie Gay in the 4th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|SF2| Posted April 18, 2020 Report Share Posted April 18, 2020 Why Ruggs over Judy for Oakland err Las Vegas at WR? Honestly don’t know either very well but Judy’s name is mentioned all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRAPradio Posted April 18, 2020 Report Share Posted April 18, 2020 5 minutes ago, bfine said: I think money would be getting Willie Gay in the 4th. 2nd or maybe 3rd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicoli Posted April 18, 2020 Report Share Posted April 18, 2020 5 minutes ago, SF2 said: Why Ruggs over Judy for Oakland err Las Vegas at WR? Honestly don’t know either very well but Judy’s name is mentioned all the time. I would definitely take Lamb over either one. I'll be surprised if that's not the way they go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfine Posted April 18, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2020 4 minutes ago, SF2 said: Why Ruggs over Judy for Oakland err Las Vegas at WR? Honestly don’t know either very well but Judy’s name is mentioned all the time. Speed. It's a Raiders tradition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted April 18, 2020 Report Share Posted April 18, 2020 44 minutes ago, bfine said: Speed. It's a Raiders tradition. Ruggs..Juedy..makes no difference....they Need receivers... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|High School Harry| Posted April 18, 2020 Report Share Posted April 18, 2020 11 hours ago, WRAPradio said: 2nd or maybe 3rd. Third very likely (imho) if he is there, second not impossible although I would not care for it with so many others who would also probably be available. I don't think he will be there in the fourth but if he is, the Bengal rep should pull a hamstring and go on IR sprinting to the podium with the pick. Well, if they had a podium to sprint to this year. 11 hours ago, bfine said: Speed. It's a Raiders tradition. A third round pick for John Ross? Wonder if the Bengals would take it if offered? Not that it would be. Or the Bengals would take it if offered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRAPradio Posted April 18, 2020 Report Share Posted April 18, 2020 20 minutes ago, High School Harry said: Third very likely (imho) if he is there, second not impossible although I would not care for it with so many others who would also probably be available. I don't think he will be there in the fourth but if he is, the Bengal rep should pull a hamstring and go on IR sprinting to the podium with the pick. Well, if they had a podium to sprint to this year. A third round pick for John Ross? Wonder if the Bengals would take it if offered? Not that it would be. Or the Bengals would take it if offered. Deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|SF2| Posted April 18, 2020 Report Share Posted April 18, 2020 12 hours ago, bfine said: Speed. It's a Raiders tradition. Good point. They love shiny objects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfine Posted April 19, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2020 I'd be very tempted for Baun and would have gone Gladney had we not made hay at the position in FA, So I'll be the 3rd and make the pick Isaiah Wilson/ OT Would like to do a 2nd round mock tomorrow. Let me know if you want to participate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengaled Posted April 19, 2020 Report Share Posted April 19, 2020 On 4/18/2020 at 8:35 AM, High School Harry said: A third round pick for John Ross? Wonder if the Bengals would take it if offered? Not that it would be. Or the Bengals would take it if offered. No, of course not given our WR room and the promise he's shown. You let him play out that 4th year and decide where to proceed then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky151 Posted April 19, 2020 Report Share Posted April 19, 2020 Why? Ross is going into the 4th year of his contract. It will be the final season since the team isn't going to pay 15 mil to exercise his 5th year option. Maybe they sign him to a new deal after the season but they could do that regardless of what team he plays for in 2020. Meanwhile a 3rd round pick could be used on a WR who may well be better than Ross. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengaled Posted April 19, 2020 Report Share Posted April 19, 2020 10 minutes ago, sparky151 said: Why? Ross is going into the 4th year of his contract. It will be the final season since the team isn't going to pay 15 mil to exercise his 5th year option. Maybe they sign him to a new deal after the season but they could do that regardless of what team he plays for in 2020. Meanwhile a 3rd round pick could be used on a WR who may well be better than Ross. You don't know that about the 5th year option. I'd be a helluva lot more willing to bet on him providing offense in his 4th year vs the scrapheap project type WR available after the 3rd round, not to mention that would likely ALSO fuck up our whole draft board even more, were it to transpire. That's just not very logical thinking. You let him play that 4th year out and see what transpires from what you originally invested the 10th pick in the draft in. A lot of John Ross' lack of development sits squarely on Marvin Lewis' shoulders. No one will ever convince me otherwise. He's a player that is likely moving up and it would be absolutely foolish to trade that out in his 4th year for some 3rd round project rookie WR. Let's put it like this....for one I am absolutely certain this team isn't ready to do what you and a few misguided others suggest. John Ross will play here this year and that's a virtual given. Let's revisit this in next year's offseason and we take another look at who was right and who was wrong. If it's me, I will gladly eat crow, but I am not worried about that TBH! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted April 19, 2020 Report Share Posted April 19, 2020 25 minutes ago, bengaled said: You don't know that about the 5th year option. I'd be a helluva lot more willing to bet on him providing offense in his 4th year vs the scrapheap project type WR available after the 3rd round, not to mention that would likely ALSO fuck up our whole draft board even more, were it to transpire. That's just not very logical thinking. You let him play that 4th year out and see what transpires from what you originally invested the 10th pick in the draft in. A lot of John Ross' lack of development sits squarely on Marvin Lewis' shoulders. No one will ever convince me otherwise. He's a player that is likely moving up and it would be absolutely foolish to trade that out in his 4th year for some 3rd round project rookie WR. Let's put it like this....for one I am absolutely certain this team isn't ready to do what you and a few misguided others suggest. John Ross will play here this year and that's a virtual given. Let's revisit this in next year's offseason and we take another look at who was right and who was wrong. If it's me, I will gladly eat crow, but I am not worried about that TBH! John Ross makes backers backup to cover that speed... Lewis never used rookies much... He got hurt... The talent is there now.. maybe Joe can throw some passes his way that dont bounce a foot in front of him or just underthrow his speed.. If anything else hes a touchdown waiting to happen... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cricket Posted April 19, 2020 Report Share Posted April 19, 2020 28 minutes ago, claptonrocks said: John Ross makes backers backup to cover that speed... Lewis never used rookies much... He got hurt... The talent is there now.. maybe Joe can throw some passes his way that dont bounce a foot in front of him or just underthrow his speed.. If anything else hes a touchdown waiting to happen... I would be all in on this...if he had not dropped so many passes. Let’s all hope that we get what was expected when he was drafted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengaled Posted April 19, 2020 Report Share Posted April 19, 2020 8 minutes ago, Cricket said: I would be all in on this...if he had not dropped so many. Let’s all hope that we get what was expected when he was drafted. When a player, especially a WR, doesn't have the trust of his head coach, he presses. When that happens he doesn't look balls into his hands before trying to make a bigger play and the result is a drop. Call me crazy, but I bet this represents a HUGE part of John Ross lack of success. A good coach is a psychiatrist and if there's a nuanced way to coach the best oout of a player, he finds it. Marvin Lewis was a good coach in many ways, but he failed horribly and in all the worst ways with the direction he chose to coach this kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOF dan Posted April 19, 2020 Report Share Posted April 19, 2020 6 minutes ago, bengaled said: When a player, especially a WR, doesn't have the trust of his head coach, he presses. When that happens he doesn't look balls into his hands before trying to make a bigger play and the result is a drop. Call me crazy, but I bet this represents a HUGE part of John Ross lack of success. I agree and if you listened to TJ Housh's interview he said the same. John Ross needs to get his confidence back. I'm with you Ed.......Marvin hurt his potential Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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