* ROUND 1, BENGALS SELECT JOE BURROW, QB */Burrow Era

[spicoli]

Way to kill off  our perfectly fine Joey B thread fellas...nice work. 

[Cricket]

Lavar Arrington 

 

 

 

[Shebengal]

On 8/31/2020 at 11:03 AM, Jamie_B said:

Stop funding schools through property taxes, poorer kids end up with shittier schools that way.

 

 

The Ohio Supreme Court has said 4 times, most recently in 1997, that the way schools are funded in Ohio is unconstitutional. 23 years later, the legislative branch of Ohio government has yet to come up with a solution. 

[Jamie_B]

3 minutes ago, Shebengal said:

The Ohio Supreme Court has said 4 times, most recently in 1997, that the way schools are funded in Ohio is unconstitutional. 23 years later, the legislative branch of Ohio government has yet to come up with a solution. 

Not surprised they haven't either.

[claptonrocks]

On 8/31/2020 at 10:58 AM, I_C_Deadpeople said:

There needs to be a broad based increase in the level and form of education. Inner city schools and poorer area schools have kids in it that do not eat well enough and do not have the same education tools to work with. I would start there - it would literally be a 20 year experiment. But many studies have proven that basic nutrition is critical at the younger ages in learning. Combine that with a better learning environment (not just poor black kids but all poor kids) and over time you increase the overall level of education, tolerance, understanding, etc - and you can start breaking cycles.  

 

It seems to me that a lot of the current racism and discrimination stems from poor education of 'white folk' - so they have to be included in the education reform. 

 

If 20 years ago there had been a focus on smart nutrition (in schools) and better tools(computers, books, classes on these topics, more teachers, etc.) for learning in all schools, where would we be today? What higher percentage of under privileged kids would now be breaking the cycle?

I agree....perfect sense...

[sparky151]

3 hours ago, Shebengal said:

The Ohio Supreme Court has said 4 times, most recently in 1997, that the way schools are funded in Ohio is unconstitutional. 23 years later, the legislative branch of Ohio government has yet to come up with a solution. 

 

There was another OSC decision prior to Derolph saying the property tax was constitutional. The legislature simply disagrees with the court over whether the court's opinion matters. After 4 rulings, the court said they were done with the matter and it was up to the General Assembly. 

[Jupiter Fan]

On 8/28/2020 at 9:43 AM, vanmorrissey said:

Based on this, the Bengals have to be the slowest team in the NFL.   I don't think they are going to win a single game.

Nevermind

[Le Tigre]

On 9/1/2020 at 4:56 PM, sparky151 said:

 

There was another OSC decision prior to Derolph saying the property tax was constitutional. The legislature simply disagrees with the court over whether the court's opinion matters. After 4 rulings, the court said they were done with the matter and it was up to the General Assembly. 

Working in the public school district world, there are so many reasons why the legislature—over decades and different administrations/state houses—cannot come to a resolution. The many interested factions outside of the legislature, will never remotely be able to agree on anything. And, go figure, it all comes down to money—and who gets it. 
 

 

[Griever]

Joe Mixon hopes to play rest of career with Joe Burrow

The Bengals officially announced running back Joe Mixon‘s contract extension on Wednesday and Mixon met the media to discuss his future with the team later in the day.

 

In a perfect Bengals world, Mixon would spend the life of his new deal alongside rookie quarterback Joe Burrow as a central part of a productive offense. Mixon believes that offense has “a lot of potential to do a lot of special things” and he said he’s seen enough from Burrow to know he doesn’t want to play with any other quarterbacks.

“I really don’t think he’s your typical rookie,” Mixon said, via Ben Baby of ESPN.com. “He’s definitely going to be a great guy here in this league for years to come, and I hope I can finish my career here with him.”

 

Mixon is signed through 2024 and Burrow’s contract runs through the same year when you take the team’s fifth-year option into account. Should all go according to plan, it’s a good chance that won’t be the end of their time together.

 

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/09/02/joe-mixon-hopes-to-play-rest-of-career-with-joe-burrow/

[Griever]

Love the video editing on the throw, makes it look like he's throwing a bullet. Bengals social media really stepping up this year.

 

 

[claptonrocks]

29 minutes ago, Griever said:

Love the video editing on the throw, makes it look like he's throwing a bullet. Bengals social media really stepping up this year.

 

 

And Drew Sample caught it thinking "damn if I get tight throws like this Im gonna have a big year"..

 

[|BlackJesus|]

[|BlackJesus|]

[|BlackJesus|]

 

 

[|SF2|]

On 8/31/2020 at 2:15 AM, Homer_Rice said:

 

This is not the correct sub-forum, but issues have become so tangled up recently that I hope the mods will give me the benefit of the doubt. You deserve an honest (and earnest) reply. I don't doubt your sincerity; I think you do mean well. But I want to try to show you that your approach cannot, and will not, work.

 

Let's do a mind-experiment. Walk a mile in these shoes.

 

You consider yourself to be an honorable and respectable person. You've got a job, you care about your family and friends, you don't actively wish harm on others. You just want to live a decent life for you and yours.

 

But your boss is a micro-manager. In fact, all your bosses are micro-managers. Always looking over your shoulder. You are not stupid and furthermore, you really want to do a good job because, hey, you care about your integrity and striving for excellence is a part of that.

 

Still, those damn bosses. They won't give you the freedom to use your experience to make the operation better, even though you know that some of your solutions are really good and will work. Furthermore, they are always looking over your shoulder, pointing out meaningless corrections. "No, don't do it that way, do it this way." All day long. Every day. Different bosses. All your bosses. And these are not merely isolated interventions into how you go about your day; they are constant--all the damn time. They are not only being petty about matters, but they never let up. They are always looking at you.

 

You begin to get the feeling that they don't trust you. This bothers you because you think you are trustworthy. You're trying to be upright , to do the right thing. But, it doesn't seem to matter. No matter how often you try to explain to the bosses that you really mean well, they still micro-manage. They still watch you like a hawk. It's bothersome and eventually, it makes you angry. And it's a righteous anger, too. You're not crazy, you just want to get along and have the liberty to enjoy your professionalism and your life in general.

 

Let's go a bit further. You are tough, you are in the middle of this hellish work environment and it never seems to get better. It gets worse from time to time though. But again, you are tough and smart, so you figure out ways to navigate the bullshit, to make your life as good as possible under the circumstances. And let's say you even meet with some success. You get a minor promotion here and there. But still, those damn micro-managers--they don't go away. Always there, always judging you, always ready to correct what they perceive to be the slightest slip up. And one day, as you walk into that little office you have been given, a couple of your subordinates walk in, people who supposedly work for you. There's a problem. It causes some disagreements. But what you notice is that there are really two problems and it isn't the first, professional problem that gives you pause. It's the second problem that really bothers you. You notice that your subordinates are micro-managers, too. They're looking at you, they're judging you. And even though they think you have some limited competence, they don't trust you because you are somehow "different." And it isn't a difference of personality or of character. It's a difference because you simply look different.

 

And you realize, this micro-management isn't only about you, it's about all the people who look different the same way you look different. And you realize, this is the same crap that your parents had to go through. And your grandparents went through. And back into the deep past. It never changes, not in any substantial way at the core of matters. And then, you have an even more terrible thought: it's going to be this way for your children, and for their children, and for their children's children.

 

It's never going to end. And why? Is it your fault for being born the way you were born? Is it your fault that the micro-managers are going to micro-manage? And why do you have to be on the receiving end of this artificial bullshit?

 

...to be continued.

A few years ago I would have moved this but the issues have become part of the NFL and other leagues whether one agrees or not.  

[|High School Harry|]

3 hours ago, SF2 said:

A few years ago I would have moved this but the issues have become part of the NFL and other leagues whether one agrees or not.  

As it is, I think you're the Last MOD Standing.

[|Montana Bengal|]

49 minutes ago, High School Harry said:

As it is, I think you're the Last MOD Standing.

Not quite

[|SF2|]

On 9/3/2020 at 11:27 AM, Montana Bengal said:

Not quite

Yeah, just because we aren’t giving out warnings and banning people doesn’t mean we aren’t around.  We used to have a rule no politics in the football thread but sports and politics are now joined at the hip. 

[spicoli]

4 hours ago, SF2 said:

Yeah, just because we aren’t giving out warnings and banning people doesn’t mean we aren’t around.  We used to have a rule no politics in the football thread but sports and politics are now joined at the hip. 

Then make a new ‘politics in sports’ forum and leave this one to just football.  Just a suggestion. 

[Jason]

3 hours ago, spicoli said:

Then make a new politics in sports forum and leave this one to just football.  Just a suggestion. 

Seconded

[T-Dub]

6 minutes ago, UncleEarl said:

Not trying to “weaponize” Dr.King.  My thought process is about what will work. Competing protests that end up in fights and murders will only result in pain and suffering.  I’m all for civil disobedience, but when you start hurting others it crosses a line and usually leads to retaliatory actions. An endless cycle.  

 

Not saying you are, just read it though.  They make solid points about this passive depiction of him & how it's not terribly accurate.

 

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I’m all for civil disobedience, but when you start hurting others it crosses a line

 

 

That line was crossed by racially-motivated police brutality.  It seems pointless to me to condemn relatively minor property damage while ignoring the systemic state-sponsored violence that created it.  

[UncleEarl]

22 minutes ago, T-Dub said:

 

Not saying you are, just read it though.  They make solid points about this passive depiction of him & how it's not terribly accurate.

 

 

 

That line was crossed by racially-motivated police brutality.  It seems pointless to me to condemn relatively minor property damage while ignoring the systemic state-sponsored violence that created it.  

My condemnation of the actions of the police in these situations was supposed to be assumed.  Minor vandalism isn’t good, but not what I’m referring to.  I’m talking about people attacking each other.   The old “an eye for an eye leaves everyone blind.”

[T-Dub]

2 hours ago, UncleEarl said:

My condemnation of the actions of the police in these situations was supposed to be assumed.  Minor vandalism isn’t good, but not what I’m referring to.  I’m talking about people attacking each other.   The old “an eye for an eye leaves everyone blind.”

 

I get that.  It's hard for me to understand the mentality behind these militia types.   They've talked all this shit about resisting government oppression and blahblah fuckin blah then when confronted with mass protests over the same shit their reaction is to tool up and go try to intimidate the protesters.   How am I supposed to look at that and think anything other than "these dicks just want an excuse to shoot someone?"

[claptonrocks]

9 hours ago, UncleEarl said:

DrKing had a great influence on civil rights. What he did was effective.  It’s a tragedy it cost him his life.  We are at a crossroads.  If we go down the path of violence no one will win. It will be an endless standoff with casualties on both sides. Think Israel and Palestine.  Serbs and Croats.  At some point it stops mattering who is right and who is wrong.  Hatred and resentment set in.  At some point there is no going back.  
 

I want what you want.  I am just afraid of the road we going down right now.   

Well thought out..

The road you talk about is here and now..

I have thoughts and suggestions..

Everyone has their own...

It doesnt matter..

Society quit listening years ago..they just talk now..

Is it time for a change from capitalist society into socialism now?

We'll see if it happems soon..

 

a

 

 

[|SF2|]

8 hours ago, claptonrocks said:

Well thought out..

The road you talk about is here and now..

I have thoughts and suggestions..

Everyone has their own...

It doesnt matter..

Society quit listening years ago..they just talk now..

Is it time for a change from capitalist society into socialism now?

We'll see if it happems soon..

 

a

 

 

You can blame social media for it.  People spend more time texting and following people they agree with and no longer read actual news.  The whole “hands up don’t shoot”  narrative concerning Michael Brown was created by social media and resulted in numerous riots and acts of vandalism.   
 

On the flip side without video the George Floyd killer might have walked. 
 

People can post a 5 second video with zero context and cause nationwide outrage in a matter of a few hours.