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On 7/24/2020 at 6:14 PM, CincyInDC said:

 

Whenever Dalton plays, the quarterback position becomes Schrödinger's QB.  We don't know how important the QB position is until we know the results of the game. 

 

If we lose, Dalton isn't good enough to play the sport's most important position.  If we win, the position is not quite as important as if we lose. 

 

I cant agree with anything you just shared ...

Differs..

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1 hour ago, SF2 said:

It took Manning 6 years to win his first playoff game. 

Manning sucked in the playoffs.  A top 5 regular season QB.  Not even a top 20 playoff QB.  He was carried by the rest of his team in both SB years in the playoffs.  Manning sucked in big games in college as well.  Never got the big win.  I would take Eli over Peyton in a single important game.

 

Hopefully Mr. Burrow will continue his clutch performances in college as a pro.  I'd rather have a playoff baller than a regular season machine who wilts under pressure.

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11 hours ago, UncleEarl said:

Manning sucked in the playoffs.  A top 5 regular season QB.  Not even a top 20 playoff QB.  He was carried by the rest of his team in both SB years in the playoffs.  Manning sucked in big games in college as well.  Never got the big win.  I would take Eli over Peyton in a single important game.

 

Hopefully Mr. Burrow will continue his clutch performances in college as a pro.  I'd rather have a playoff baller than a regular season machine who wilts under pressure.

It was odd that Peyton was a better regular season QB but Eli was a better playoff QB

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Dear High School Harry
 
The start of training camp is always an exciting time, and we know there is extra enthusiasm this year to see all of the players we added during free agency and the draft take their first official snaps as Bengals players.
 
Health and safety is our top priority as we prepare for players to return. We are taking all of the necessary steps to follow the guidelines established by the NFL, local government officials and medical professionals.
 
Last Friday night, the NFL and NFLPA came to an agreement that enables us to open training camp on time. Part of this agreement says there will be no preseason games. The team will be preparing for the season opener against the LA Chargers on September 13. We remain hopeful that we will be able to host fans in a reduced capacity for our regular season games pending approval by local and state government officials. Please note - during our re-seating process, resulting price adjustments due to a seat location change and any canceled game credits will be applied at that time. This process is expected to start in August and you can expect updates in the coming weeks.
 
As a result of increased safety protocols, fans and visitors will not be permitted to attend training camp practices. We know so many of our Season Ticket Members look forward to this experience and we will miss seeing you this year. We will work hard to bring you behind-the-scenes coverage on Bengals.com and social media throughout training camp so you can still feel close to the action.
 
We appreciate your support and will continue to share updates as we have more information.
 
Stay safe & WHO DEY!
 
 
Katie "Pumpkin" Blackburn
Executive Vice President
Cincinnati Bengals

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2 hours ago, I_C_Deadpeople said:

It was odd that Peyton was a better regular season QB but Eli was a better playoff QB

I always thought that Peyton "tried too hard"  instead of taking what the game was giving him in the playoffs.  He often did that during the season too but often got away with it.

 

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Some of that is officiating. If Ty Law's muggings of Marvin Harrison got called PI in New England, history is a lot different. 

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4 hours ago, sparky151 said:

Some of that is officiating. If Ty Law's muggings of Marvin Harrison got called PI in New England, history is a lot different. 

The SB pick six against the Saints was not due to officiating

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Since preseason has been cancelled, I'm waiting to see something about the refund of the tickets for season ticket holders who had to buy them with the package.

And waiting and waiting and...

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23 hours ago, High School Harry said:

Since preseason has been cancelled, I'm waiting to see something about the refund of the tickets for season ticket holders who had to buy them with the package.

And waiting and waiting and...

Yea, they dragging it out to collect as much interest as they can before refunding any money.

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Interest?  Rates are so low that interest shouldn't figure in any organization's decisions on the timing of refunds. If they had say $50 mil in season ticket sales (probably much too high a number), and get 20 basis points on their business deposits, then 2 of 10 games at full price for preseason would earn them $20K if they wait a full year. Or less than $2K if they wait a month.  They aren't obliged to pay and likely won't refund the money until the date of the game has passed. 

 

They're losing much more money from parking, concessions, and onsite merchandise sales than any they earn from delaying refunds on preseason tickets.

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4 hours ago, sparky151 said:

Interest?  Rates are so low that interest shouldn't figure in any organization's decisions on the timing of refunds. If they had say $50 mil in season ticket sales (probably much too high a number), and get 20 basis points on their business deposits, then 2 of 10 games at full price for preseason would earn them $20K if they wait a full year. Or less than $2K if they wait a month.  They aren't obliged to pay and likely won't refund the money until the date of the game has passed. 

 

They're losing much more money from parking, concessions, and onsite merchandise sales than any they earn from delaying refunds on preseason tickets.

Parking is City of Cincinnati or Hamilton County because they own the lots like they do PBS although the Bengals may get a cut.

Concessions are franchised out to Aramark Company.  Bengals get a huge franchise fee from the company and not anything from the stuff sold.  The Bengals have already made their money before the first drop of Coke hits the cup of mostly ice.  

Onsite merchandise most to the company with the Bengals and NFL getting a cut.

 

The Browns are above all things business people.  The season ticket money is invested wisely in high yield investments and are pulling in big bucks.  Ray is right.  The longer they hold on to it the more they make.

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6 hours ago, sparky151 said:

Interest?  Rates are so low that interest shouldn't figure in any organization's decisions on the timing of refunds. If they had say $50 mil in season ticket sales (probably much too high a number), and get 20 basis points on their business deposits, then 2 of 10 games at full price for preseason would earn them $20K if they wait a full year. Or less than $2K if they wait a month.  They aren't obliged to pay and likely won't refund the money until the date of the game has passed. 

 

They're losing much more money from parking, concessions, and onsite merchandise sales than any they earn from delaying refunds on preseason tickets.

I'm crappy at math and will go with your numbers.  You also have to add in the money they're holding on while we wait to see if we're going to opt out, so they're holding on to money for all 10 games right now.  In business it's the lost pennies that kill you.

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18 hours ago, High School Harry said:

Parking is City of Cincinnati or Hamilton County because they own the lots like they do PBS although the Bengals may get a cut.

Concessions are franchised out to Aramark Company.  Bengals get a huge franchise fee from the company and not anything from the stuff sold.  The Bengals have already made their money before the first drop of Coke hits the cup of mostly ice.  

Onsite merchandise most to the company with the Bengals and NFL getting a cut.

 

The Browns are above all things business people.  The season ticket money is invested wisely in high yield investments and are pulling in big bucks.  Ray is right.  The longer they hold on to it the more they make.

 

Yes, the Brown family are shrewd business people as their sweetheart stadium lease indicates. But the ticket sales money is certainly not invested in high yield investments. It will be in a low rate, on demand deposit account. As noted previously, the team doesn't owe a refund until the date of the canceled game has passed. They can't recognize revenue until it has been earned. So at the moment, the unplayed games will be a liability on the team's balance sheet, which will be settled by returning the money paid for them. That money won't be taking market risks or locked up at higher rates. 

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