membengal Posted February 18, 2021 Report Share Posted February 18, 2021 Just now, MichaelWeston said: You can add 3 players in the top 3 rounds to the lines. That should be the goal. If we get an added pick MAYBE take a luxury pick in the 3rd WR. Probably take another lineman. Firmly disagree that you HAVE to go line with first three picks. You can keep saying it, but that doesn't make it right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
membengal Posted February 18, 2021 Report Share Posted February 18, 2021 Just now, MichaelWeston said: Sure, but that doesn't need filled with the 5th overall pick. That could be Breshad Perriman and we could be fine because we have 2 studs already. Or Chris Conley and then you have his blocking too. Or, and stay with me here, could be filled with Ja'Marr Chase if he is there who a potential generational talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted February 18, 2021 Report Share Posted February 18, 2021 3 hours ago, Jamie_B said: You use FA to address needs and the draft to take the best talent. imho Sewell is rated higher on big boards than Chase, but Chase is rated higher than any of the DEs. Taking players for need over talent is exactly what we did in the 90s. The only time you should take for need over talent is when the talent is close. You don't take the best talent when you are already pretty solid at a position. Drafting a first round corner makes far more sense than drafting a first round WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted February 18, 2021 Report Share Posted February 18, 2021 Just now, membengal said: Or, and stay with me here, could be filled with Ja'Marr Chase if he is there who a potential generational talent. And then piss away your talent you already have at WR? Doesn't make sense. And around 50% of first round WRs bust. Chase hasn't played in a season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
membengal Posted February 18, 2021 Report Share Posted February 18, 2021 Just now, MichaelWeston said: You don't take the best talent when you are already pretty solid at a position. Drafting a first round corner makes far more sense than drafting a first round WR. You take the best talent at 5, always (unless a QB). You do not reach for need and pass up a potential generational talent at WR particularly when you are replacing AJ Green. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted February 18, 2021 Report Share Posted February 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, membengal said: Firmly disagree that you HAVE to go line with first three picks. You can keep saying it, but that doesn't make it right. I don't get it. Every year we have a crappy line and people wonder why. It's because we don't invest in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
membengal Posted February 18, 2021 Report Share Posted February 18, 2021 Just now, MichaelWeston said: And then piss away your talent you already have at WR? Doesn't make sense. And around 50% of first round WRs bust. Chase hasn't played in a season. How in the fuck does adding Chase piss away Boyd and Higgins? Are you high? They targeted AJ 100+ times last year. Those targets will need to replaced. I nominate Chase if he is there. With Boyd and Higgins still being 1000 yard candidates themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
membengal Posted February 18, 2021 Report Share Posted February 18, 2021 Just now, MichaelWeston said: I don't get it. Every year we have a crappy line and people wonder why. It's because we don't invest in it. If only there were other avenues to address line... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted February 18, 2021 Report Share Posted February 18, 2021 Just now, membengal said: You take the best talent at 5, always (unless a QB). You do not reach for need and pass up a potential generational talent at WR particularly when you are replacing AJ Green. Are we going to trade Tyler Boyd then? Just let him catch less passes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
membengal Posted February 18, 2021 Report Share Posted February 18, 2021 Just now, MichaelWeston said: Are we going to trade Tyler Boyd then? Just let him catch less passes? You are being non-sensical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
membengal Posted February 18, 2021 Report Share Posted February 18, 2021 Ja'Marr tortured college football at the highest level as an 18 and 19-year-old. He's a prodigy. If he somehow gets to 5, and the Bengals have done what they need to in FA, then, yes, have at it Bengals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted February 18, 2021 Report Share Posted February 18, 2021 Just now, membengal said: If only there were other avenues to address line... There is just no way you can look at this draft and this team and come to the conclusion that we won't still need some sort of impact offensive lineman when the draft comes along. I would like to believe it to but I don't. I'd like to be pimps from Oakland or cowboys from Arizona but it's not Halloween. Grow up, Peter Pan! Count Chocula! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted February 18, 2021 Report Share Posted February 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, membengal said: You are being non-sensical. Cowboys just drafted CeeDee Lamb. It made no sense. Now they will give up Micheal Gallup. You don't draft a player just to have to trade an already good player you have. It's a dumb way of team building. Trade down and stockpile OL and DL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicoli Posted February 18, 2021 Report Share Posted February 18, 2021 Sign 2 starting caliber OL in FA and the starting 5 up front is fixed. Add depth in the middle rounds. That allows you to take the very best player you can get with your premium 5th overall pick and this year that just happens to be Pitts or one of the big 3 WRs. There are no pass rushers worth that pick this year so it’s stupid to even talk about taking one. This doesn’t have to be that hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicoli Posted February 18, 2021 Report Share Posted February 18, 2021 14 minutes ago, MichaelWeston said: Chase hasn't played in a season. Neither has Sewell.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
membengal Posted February 18, 2021 Report Share Posted February 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, spicoli said: Sign 2 starting caliber OL in FA and the starting 5 up front is fixed. Add depth in the middle rounds. That allows you to take the very best player you can get with your premium 5th overall pick and this year that just happens to be Pitts or one of the big 3 WRs. There are no pass rushers worth that pick this year so it’s stupid to even talk about taking one. This doesn’t have to be that hard. LIKE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted February 18, 2021 Report Share Posted February 18, 2021 13 minutes ago, membengal said: How in the fuck does adding Chase piss away Boyd and Higgins? Are you high? They targeted AJ 100+ times last year. Those targets will need to replaced. I nominate Chase if he is there. With Boyd and Higgins still being 1000 yard candidates themselves. Thats not how it works. All 100 targets don't go to the next WR. AJ didn't catch 100 balls. He caught 47. Essentially you are replacing 47 completed passes for sure but any incomplete pass potentially takes away from another WRs completed pass. (Or leads to a first down which could lead to more targets). But to oversimplify it that way is just not very smart. Now you expect to have 3 1000 yard recievers.....You made my point Count Chocula! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted February 18, 2021 Report Share Posted February 18, 2021 5 minutes ago, spicoli said: Sign 2 starting caliber OL in FA and the starting 5 up front is fixed. Add depth in the middle rounds. That allows you to take the very best player you can get with your premium 5th overall pick and this year that just happens to be Pitts or one of the big 3 WRs. There are no pass rushers worth that pick this year so it’s stupid to even talk about taking one. This doesn’t have to be that hard. Who are those players and who starts at the other 2 spots? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted February 18, 2021 Report Share Posted February 18, 2021 6 minutes ago, spicoli said: Sign 2 starting caliber OL in FA and the starting 5 up front is fixed. Add depth in the middle rounds. That allows you to take the very best player you can get with your premium 5th overall pick and this year that just happens to be Pitts or one of the big 3 WRs. There are no pass rushers worth that pick this year so it’s stupid to even talk about taking one. This doesn’t have to be that hard. The only logical options are 1. Sewell 2. Trade down and compile picks....if the BPA is then a WR so be it, but you have already compiled the picks to take the OL/DL that is more necessary than the WR who will be the 3rd option. Why can no one name a team with 3 stud WRs who did well in the playoffs this year? Maybe the Bucs who lucked into Antonio Brown? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted February 18, 2021 Report Share Posted February 18, 2021 16 minutes ago, spicoli said: Sign 2 starting caliber OL in FA and the starting 5 up front is fixed. Add depth in the middle rounds. That allows you to take the very best player you can get with your premium 5th overall pick and this year that just happens to be Pitts or one of the big 3 WRs. There are no pass rushers worth that pick this year so it’s stupid to even talk about taking one. This doesn’t have to be that hard. Hopefully they can sign Moten.. Maybe a guard but the team likes Sua-Filo at LG.. Maybe they bring back Spain at RG... They arent spending big money on any guard.. If they trade back to 9 or so they can grab Darrishaw if they dont sign Moten . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
membengal Posted February 18, 2021 Report Share Posted February 18, 2021 21 minutes ago, MichaelWeston said: Thats not how it works. All 100 targets don't go to the next WR. AJ didn't catch 100 balls. He caught 47. Essentially you are replacing 47 completed passes for sure but any incomplete pass potentially takes away from another WRs completed pass. (Or leads to a first down which could lead to more targets). But to oversimplify it that way is just not very smart. Now you expect to have 3 1000 yard recievers.....You made my point Count Chocula! TARGETED. They TARGETED AJ 100+ times. Those TARGETS need to be replaced. Stop being an ass. You changed targeted to completed. Just, fuck off with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
membengal Posted February 18, 2021 Report Share Posted February 18, 2021 20 minutes ago, MichaelWeston said: The only logical options are 1. Sewell 2. Trade down and compile picks....if the BPA is then a WR so be it, but you have already compiled the picks to take the OL/DL that is more necessary than the WR who will be the 3rd option. Why can no one name a team with 3 stud WRs who did well in the playoffs this year? Maybe the Bucs who lucked into Antonio Brown? They had 3 stud WRs and STILL signed Antonio Brown. And then WON a super bowl. Weird, that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicoli Posted February 18, 2021 Report Share Posted February 18, 2021 17 minutes ago, MichaelWeston said: Who are those players and who starts at the other 2 spots? so I’m guessing you want the entire starting 5 replaced in one off-season? sign Thuney, send a 5th round pick to the Rams for RT Rob Havenstein....Price plays Center if Hopkins can’t go...Williams stays at LT.....also don’t forget we have Pollack as OL coach now, not idiot Turner or ketchup boy. https://www.si.com/nfl/bengals/gm-report/rams-right-tackle-rob-havenstein-available-via-trade-could-pique-bengals-interest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_C_Deadpeople Posted February 18, 2021 Report Share Posted February 18, 2021 Heaven forbid we should have too much skill at a position Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted February 18, 2021 Report Share Posted February 18, 2021 36 minutes ago, spicoli said: so I’m guessing you want the entire starting 5 replaced in one off-season? sign Thuney, send a 5th round pick to the Rams for RT Rob Havenstein....Price plays Center if Hopkins can’t go...Williams stays at LT.....also don’t forget we have Pollack as OL coach now, not idiot Turner or ketchup boy. https://www.si.com/nfl/bengals/gm-report/rams-right-tackle-rob-havenstein-available-via-trade-could-pique-bengals-interest The Bengals wont sign any high priced guard.. They like SuaFilo at LG and possibly re-sign Spain at RG... Rams arent parting with. Havenstein for a fifth roinder..no how no way.. His contract is friendly thru 2022.. My belief is theyll want a 2nd or 3rd rounder... Settle for a 3rd rounder probably.. Theyre not giving him away... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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