I_C_Deadpeople Posted March 16, 2021 Report Share Posted March 16, 2021 7 minutes ago, HOF dan said: Lawson went on record saying he would have been happy to stay with the Bengals. You think the Jets offer any greener pastures? "Greener' in terms of more guaranteed dollars..Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griever Posted March 16, 2021 Report Share Posted March 16, 2021 7 minutes ago, I_C_Deadpeople said: "Greener' in terms of more guaranteed dollars..Yes I was thinking jerseys lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky151 Posted March 16, 2021 Report Share Posted March 16, 2021 For what it's worth, PFF considers Lawson a better player than Hendrickson. Lawson was 14th ranked edge defender with overall rating of 76.3. Run defense was 61.1 and pass rushing was 84.9. Hendrickson was 28th ranked, 70.9 overall, 53.9 in run defense and 77.0 in pass rush. Lawson also played 150 more snaps last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalFanInTO Posted March 16, 2021 Report Share Posted March 16, 2021 1 hour ago, UncleEarl said: My guess is Lawson could have stayed. Jackson will get a good offer as well. Honestly, why would they stay? If you had a choice, and the money was equal, would you play for the Bengals? My understanding, and I do not know if this is true, is that the Bengals offered Lawson the same contract as Hendrickson. Lawson only wanted a three year deal so he could be a free agent again at 28. Bengals insisted on the fourth year. Lawson picked the Jets. Bengals gave the contract to Hendrickson. Lawson had 11.5 sacks over the past three seasons and only played in 35 of a possible 48 games. I know that he was second in the league in GPDCTTQB Rating (Getting Pretty Damn Close To The QB) and his RBTQBA (Run By The Quarterback Average) was at an All Pro level while Hendrickson is only in the NFL because of Cam Jordan but I am actually glad that Lawson didn't choose to stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Shebengal Posted March 16, 2021 Report Share Posted March 16, 2021 11 hours ago, Jamie_B said: And he's now a Bengal And my hubby is NOT happy about it. He wanted him in Cleveland. So for me-win/ win. 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_C_Deadpeople Posted March 16, 2021 Report Share Posted March 16, 2021 The Bengals signed pass rusher Trey Hendrickson to a four-year, $60 million contract. The commitment at signing is considerably lower than that. Per a source with knowledge of the terms, Hendrickson will receive a $10 million signing bonus and a $6 million roster bonus, both of which are guaranteed. The deal also has a base salary of $3.8 million in 2021 (non-guaranteed, but guaranteed as a practical matter), along with $200,000 in per-game roster bonuses. That’s a total payout of $20 million for one year. The Bengals can escape the rest by moving on before the fifth day of the 2022 league year, when another $6 million roster bonus comes due. The total payout for 2022 is $12 million. The deal pays $13 million in 2023 (that includes an early $3 million roster bonus) and $15 million in 2024. It’s still a one-year-at-a-time contract for the Bengals, which makes sense given that Hendrickson had three so-so seasons before exploding in 2020, with 15.5 sacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted March 16, 2021 Report Share Posted March 16, 2021 The team signed a high end free agent to a deal that doesn't hamstring them if it doesnt work out? Who locked Mike Brown in the basement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_C_Deadpeople Posted March 16, 2021 Report Share Posted March 16, 2021 1 hour ago, BengalFanInTO said: My understanding, and I do not know if this is true, is that the Bengals offered Lawson the same contract as Hendrickson. Lawson only wanted a three year deal so he could be a free agent again at 28. Bengals insisted on the fourth year. Lawson picked the Jets. Bengals gave the contract to Hendrickson. Lawson had 11.5 sacks over the past three seasons and only played in 35 of a possible 48 games. I know that he was second in the league in GPDCTTQB Rating (Getting Pretty Damn Close To The QB) and his RBTQBA (Run By The Quarterback Average) was at an All Pro level while Hendrickson is only in the NFL because of Cam Jordan but I am actually glad that Lawson didn't choose to stay. Good news is our defensive coaches are excellent at coaching up so we can expect big things from Hendrickson and any other defensive FA we sign. Meanwhile, JB is looking for an additional insurance policy against injury becuase we wouldn't want to actually pay fair value for a good guard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_C_Deadpeople Posted March 16, 2021 Report Share Posted March 16, 2021 1 minute ago, Jamie_B said: The team signed a high end free agent to a deal that doesn't hamstring them if it doesnt work out? Who locked Mike Brown in the basement? Clearly no other team provided a better contract so there is the possibility that this guy will "earn" the right to be cut before the deal is finished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted March 16, 2021 Report Share Posted March 16, 2021 1 minute ago, I_C_Deadpeople said: Clearly no other team provided a better contract so there is the possibility that this guy will "earn" the right to be cut before the deal is finished. Why is that clearly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_C_Deadpeople Posted March 16, 2021 Report Share Posted March 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, Jamie_B said: Why is that clearly? Because he would have signed with the other team if their was a better deal on the table, or at least waited as he thought through his options. I am not really pissing on the deal, but Lawson was a known commodity in our system and Hendrickson is not. We did not want to provide the guarantees to Lawson the jets did and so Hendrickson is Plan B. At best, this is a wash from an overall talent perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted March 16, 2021 Report Share Posted March 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, I_C_Deadpeople said: Because he would have signed with the other team if their was a better deal on the table, or at least waited as he thought through his options. I am not really pissing on the deal, but Lawson was a known commodity in our system and Hendrickson is not. We did not want to provide the guarantees to Lawson the jets did and so Hendrickson is Plan B. At best, this is a wash from an overall talent perspective. We're going to have to agree to disagree. I'll take the guy with 13.5 sacks over the guy with 5.5 every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOF dan Posted March 16, 2021 Report Share Posted March 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Shebengal said: And my hubby is NOT happy about it. He wanted him in Cleveland. So for me-win/ win. 😂 that made me laugh! I love your conflicted family situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shebengal Posted March 16, 2021 Report Share Posted March 16, 2021 Just now, HOF dan said: that made me laugh! I love your conflicted family situation. Glad I can be a source of amusement for you.😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griever Posted March 16, 2021 Report Share Posted March 16, 2021 hmm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_C_Deadpeople Posted March 16, 2021 Report Share Posted March 16, 2021 5 minutes ago, Griever said: hmm... "That spells trouble for Cincy"? When did we get out of trouble, moves like this just keep us there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOF dan Posted March 16, 2021 Report Share Posted March 16, 2021 20 minutes ago, Shebengal said: Glad I can be a source of amusement for you.😉 I hope that didn't come out wrong....I certainly didn't mean to insult you or your family. It's just that I recently moved away from Brown's territory and was plugged into their mindset as you are with your family.....so - I can relate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
membengal Posted March 16, 2021 Report Share Posted March 16, 2021 Who the fuck is cody benjamin? Awuzie is a really good fit for a zone heavy scheme - I like the signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BengalFanInTO Posted March 16, 2021 Report Share Posted March 16, 2021 59 minutes ago, I_C_Deadpeople said: Because he would have signed with the other team if their was a better deal on the table, or at least waited as he thought through his options. I am not really pissing on the deal, but Lawson was a known commodity in our system and Hendrickson is not. We did not want to provide the guarantees to Lawson the jets did and so Hendrickson is Plan B. At best, this is a wash from an overall talent perspective. A known commodity at what? Almost getting sacks?!? 11.5 sacks over three seasons and 20 over his career playing with Geno Atkins and Carlos Dunlap taking the heat off of him for the majority of it. I'm not sure this is the spilled milk people should be crying over. I'm not saying Hendrickson is the next big thing. The one year wonder thing certainly worries me but, Lawson has done next to nothing but get hurt, almost sack the QB and help lead the Bengals to last place in the league in sacks last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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