UncleEarl Posted March 26, 2021 Report Share Posted March 26, 2021 Just now, spicoli said: So he sucks because Turner recommended him....got it 👍 C'mon...he's a 6th round pick. What makes you think he can do it? You just don't plug in 6th rounders unless they have proven it. Or, you shouldn't. They did that with Michael Jordan, who was a fourth round pick, and see what that got them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicoli Posted March 26, 2021 Report Share Posted March 26, 2021 Just now, UncleEarl said: C'mon...he's a 6th round pick. What makes you think he can do it? You just don't plug in 6th rounders unless they have proven it. Or, you shouldn't. They did that with Michael Jordan, who was a fourth round pick, and see what that got them. They threw MJ in there as a raw rookie. This will be Williams’ third year in the system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleEarl Posted March 26, 2021 Report Share Posted March 26, 2021 3 minutes ago, spicoli said: Yeah. His name is Semaji Perine. A guy claimed off waivers....😅 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicoli Posted March 26, 2021 Report Share Posted March 26, 2021 1 minute ago, UncleEarl said: A guy claimed off waivers....😅 C’mon man. You’re better than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted March 26, 2021 Report Share Posted March 26, 2021 Just now, spicoli said: For a guy that’s a part time good blocker? They’re mostly in the spread so it’s not like he gets a ton of opportunities to even get out there and do his thing. The offense ran the best last year with him in and not Mixon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleEarl Posted March 26, 2021 Report Share Posted March 26, 2021 3 minutes ago, spicoli said: They threw MJ in there as a raw rookie. This will be Williams’ third year in the system. That doesn't mean he's any better. Now, if the Bengals know something more about Williams, Ok. Then again I don't have any memories of Williams or Perine being counted on to block pass rushers. Yeah, so what if Burrow takes an extra dozen hits or so next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleEarl Posted March 26, 2021 Report Share Posted March 26, 2021 1 minute ago, spicoli said: C’mon man. You’re better than that. Seriously? I thought it was a preposterous statement. Lighten up, man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicoli Posted March 26, 2021 Report Share Posted March 26, 2021 3 minutes ago, UncleEarl said: I thought it was a preposterous This whole conversation is getting preposterous. Gio is a fan favorite, fine. That doesn’t make him irreplaceable though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicoli Posted March 26, 2021 Report Share Posted March 26, 2021 12 minutes ago, MichaelWeston said: 23 minutes ago, spicoli said: The offense ran the best last year with him in and not Mixon. Actually you could probably make a pretty decent argument that the offense ran best with Perine and Williams in there during the last few games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalFanInTO Posted March 26, 2021 Report Share Posted March 26, 2021 30 minutes ago, UncleEarl said: Do the Bengals have cap issues? Am I missing something? Why make your team worse when you don't have to? What are they going to get for Bernard? A third or worse? If Zach Taylor and Mike Brown want to win games this year they shouldn't trade Bernard. If I were Taylor or Burrow I would stand on my head to keep him. Bingo. The Bengals don't need the cap space and the guy brings intangibles that most won't realize...pass blocking (one of the best in the league), leadership and pass catching ability. I like his veteran presence in the backfield and having Mixon, Perine, Williams AND Bernard is not an issue. RBs get hurt. Having three serviceable guys behind Mixon is a good thing. They keep four backs on the 53 man roster. Where's the issue here? Sure, if someone offers you a sweet ass deal for him in his final year of his contract and Gio is good to go, fine, but why you'd give up a guy who blocks like a mofo for our franchise QB on 3rd down is mystifying. Why do you think so many teams are inquiring about him?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleEarl Posted March 26, 2021 Report Share Posted March 26, 2021 11 minutes ago, spicoli said: This whole conversation is getting preposterous. Gio is a fan favorite, fine. That doesn’t make him irreplaceable though. Other than you getting offended, how is it preposterous? My desire to keep Bernard has nothing to do with being a fan favorite. The guy can play and has proven it. If you want to win you need guys like that. If the Bengals were up against the cap then maybe you have to take that risk. The Bengals aren't up against the cap and they don't have to take that risk of using a 6th round pick or a guy who has been waived by WFT and Miami to play crucial downs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicoli Posted March 26, 2021 Report Share Posted March 26, 2021 19 minutes ago, BengalFanInTO said: but why you'd give up a guy who blocks like a mofo for our franchise QB on 3rd down is mystifying. Why do you think so many teams are inquiring about him?!? You guys realize that with Burrow in there they’re almost exclusively going to be in empty sets on 3rd down, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicoli Posted March 26, 2021 Report Share Posted March 26, 2021 11 minutes ago, UncleEarl said: Other than you getting offended How am I getting offended? I don’t see Gio as some irreplaceable part, that doesn’t mean I’m offended by any of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleEarl Posted March 26, 2021 Report Share Posted March 26, 2021 7 minutes ago, spicoli said: How am I getting offended? I don’t see Gio as some irreplaceable part, that doesn’t mean I’m offended by any of it. Ok, man. I just don’t get your “better than that” comment. Pair that with the “petty” one and you may understand my response. I am not trying to offend, and am happy you are not. At the same time if you are not offended you may want to back off on the passive aggressive comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicoli Posted March 26, 2021 Report Share Posted March 26, 2021 Lol that comment you made about being Mike Browns grandson WAS petty! As for the Perine comment, I assumed you had eyes and actually watched Perine play in a Bengals uniform. Waiver wire is irrelevant to the conversation. That’s all I meant. Water under the bridge in my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleEarl Posted March 26, 2021 Report Share Posted March 26, 2021 Just now, spicoli said: Lol that comment you made about being Mike Browns grandson WAS petty! My, God... it was a joke! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dub Posted March 26, 2021 Report Share Posted March 26, 2021 1 hour ago, UncleEarl said: So, you're assuming Mixon will be healthy and play all 17 games? Big assumption. Hey at least he's actually done that before, unlike the LT we're going to happily hang our season on once again. And we have capable back-ups for Mixon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Shebengal Posted March 26, 2021 Report Share Posted March 26, 2021 57 minutes ago, BengalFanInTO said: Bingo. The Bengals don't need the cap space and the guy brings intangibles that most won't realize...pass blocking (one of the best in the league), leadership and pass catching ability. I like his veteran presence in the backfield and having Mixon, Perine, Williams AND Bernard is not an issue. RBs get hurt. Having three serviceable guys behind Mixon is a good thing. They keep four backs on the 53 man roster. Where's the issue here? Sure, if someone offers you a sweet ass deal for him in his final year of his contract and Gio is good to go, fine, but why you'd give up a guy who blocks like a mofo for our franchise QB on 3rd down is mystifying. Why do you think so many teams are inquiring about him?!? Agreed, even though I know we have more money tied up in this position than most teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalFanInTO Posted March 26, 2021 Report Share Posted March 26, 2021 1 hour ago, spicoli said: You guys realize that with Burrow in there they’re almost exclusively going to be in empty sets on 3rd down, right? Erroneous. Bengals played a 3 WR set more than any other set on 3rd down last season (72% of the time) like most NFL teams. Nice try though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted March 26, 2021 Report Share Posted March 26, 2021 Some general thoughts Grading the offseason position by position QB: B--Brandon Allen I like Allen, I don't like not hedging here. I think that Dobbs makes a ton of sense because he is still young and could develop. RB: A--Samaje Perrine Perrine is on the rise and getting him for 2 years is important. I really like Bernard and hope he sticks around. That group of 3 plus a rookie and Williams is solid. WR: F--Mike Thomas This was a completely negligent offseason when it comes to adding players. They didn't need much to improve this group and they did nothing. Starting 3rd speed 3rd WRs were going for 3-4 Million and we weren't in play. One of the things that I haven't seen talked about was that Thomas has shown some flashes in the offense. Would I count on him? No. But he had by far his most productive year of his career. 13-132-1 and when thrown to the QB had a 95.7 passer rating. He has never really been asked to be a major player in the offense and he is only 26. TE: C Losing Cethan Carter was a blow and they haven't added anything yet. A stretch the field guy and a special teamer should be on the horizon. Definitely an incomplete OL: C I think the attempts were there, but they fell flat. One short term solution just won't cut it for the mess this offensive line has been for 4 years. Reiff is a good add but he is short term and even with him you only have 2 solid lineman of the 5. You have to get atleast one more in free agency and 1 very early in the draft. DL: F Losing Carl Lawson was just idiotic. Hendrickson isn't the player Lawson is and we were forced into him. I like him but we botched this. Ogunjobi is an interesting add but can't be it at DT. DT is not deep in this draft so I'd like for us to sign another guy. I would also like them to sign another DE. I expect an early pick as well. Kerrigan and another DT in Free Agency bump this up but still no stars. LB: A- We haven't done anything yet. I am hopeful that Bynes is back soon S: A We might have the best overall unit in the league. Allen and Wilson round out the group perfectly. CB:A- Our overall 5 is an improvement. There are still many CBs left so we may have rushed in to fast here, but the 3 guys we signed all have upside. I love having 5 capable guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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T-Dub Posted March 26, 2021 Report Share Posted March 26, 2021 9 minutes ago, MichaelWeston said: LB: A- We haven't done anything yet. I am hopeful that Bynes is back soon Interesting stuff overall but this was a headscratcher for me. Do we even have LB's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Jersey Bengal Posted March 26, 2021 Report Share Posted March 26, 2021 Good for us no doubtLp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted March 26, 2021 Report Share Posted March 26, 2021 Just now, T-Dub said: Interesting stuff overall but this was a headscratcher for me. Do we even have LB's? Yes but...no coach..😎 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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