CincyInDC Posted March 2, 2022 Report Share Posted March 2, 2022 Seize the means of production and nationalize the banks, Comrade! Or is it universal health insurance? I get these things mixed up all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted March 7, 2022 Report Share Posted March 7, 2022 Drew Sample's wife's grandmother is stuck in Ukraine Trapped in Ukraine: Bengals tight end, wife sound alarm with family stuck in war-torn nation | Fox News Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steggyD Posted March 8, 2022 Report Share Posted March 8, 2022 On 3/1/2022 at 6:07 PM, kennethmw said: Ahhhh, a Conspiracy Theory!! Another Fine Action from the Conservative Entertainment Apparatus Echo Chamber!! Got any Whataboutisms?? Conspiracy theory? Have you read any of the history on Ukraine? We, the United States of America, have been using them as a pawn against the Russians since WWII. And before that, there were the Nazis and Russians using Ukraine. Ukraine is a very corrupt nation full of Nazis and pro-Russians. And of course, there are those involved in neither. Nothing exists in a vacuum. We were very involved in Ukraine, and very involved with painting Russia as a bad guy for the last half a decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steggyD Posted March 8, 2022 Report Share Posted March 8, 2022 On 3/1/2022 at 11:57 AM, Jamie_B said: But also the point in posting that is that Ukraine would have had military aid that they could be using right now had Trump not withheld it over his desire to get dirt on Biden over what amounted to a rumor about DNC Servers. This was why he was impeached. Are you kidding me? They withheld $400 million for about 3 months. They received the money in September. And how many billions of dollars has Ukraine received from Europe, etc since 2014 (about 17 billion) ? But this $400 million for three months is the reason they can't fend off Russia. GTFOH with your CNN headlines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 2 hours ago, steggyD said: Are you kidding me? They withheld $400 million for about 3 months. They received the money in September. And how many billions of dollars has Ukraine received from Europe, etc since 2014 (about 17 billion) ? But this $400 million for three months is the reason they can't fend off Russia. GTFOH with your CNN headlines. I have no idea where you get that 17 billion number, do you have a source? Also you're just ok with withholding that money so that they would investigate Biden? And who said that money was the difference between fending off Russia or not? I said it's aid they didn't have, that's all. You went from A to Z not me. Even if only for 3 months, it would have been longer had they not got caught. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|kennethmw| Posted March 11, 2022 Report Share Posted March 11, 2022 On 3/8/2022 at 4:19 PM, steggyD said: Conspiracy theory? Have you read any of the history on Ukraine? We, the United States of America, have been using them as a pawn against the Russians since WWII. And before that, there were the Nazis and Russians using Ukraine. Ukraine is a very corrupt nation full of Nazis and pro-Russians. And of course, there are those involved in neither. Nothing exists in a vacuum. We were very involved in Ukraine, and very involved with painting Russia as a bad guy for the last half a decade. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted March 11, 2022 Report Share Posted March 11, 2022 Ukraine does have a Nazi problem. Putin bombing Jewish sites shows that this is not what this was about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steggyD Posted March 12, 2022 Report Share Posted March 12, 2022 https://www.newsweek.com/us-nato-helped-trigger-ukraine-war-its-not-siding-putin-admit-it-opinion-1685554 Basically what I'm trying to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steggyD Posted March 12, 2022 Report Share Posted March 12, 2022 23 hours ago, kennethmw said: 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 I guess that means you don't know anything about Ukraine. Got it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted March 12, 2022 Report Share Posted March 12, 2022 6 hours ago, steggyD said: https://www.newsweek.com/us-nato-helped-trigger-ukraine-war-its-not-siding-putin-admit-it-opinion-1685554 Basically what I'm trying to say. Nato's expansion into Ukraine is something Ukraine should have the right to make a choice about as should any other sovereign nation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|kennethmw| Posted March 13, 2022 Report Share Posted March 13, 2022 13 hours ago, steggyD said: I guess that means you don't know anything about Ukraine. Got it. No, it means I don't debate cultists! Once we can't agree on what actual facts are, there is no longer any reason for discussion. That's like wrestling a pig in a Stye. You get dirty, and the pig enjoys it!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steggyD Posted March 16, 2022 Report Share Posted March 16, 2022 On 3/12/2022 at 8:52 PM, kennethmw said: No, it means I don't debate cultists! Once we can't agree on what actual facts are, there is no longer any reason for discussion. That's like wrestling a pig in a Stye. You get dirty, and the pig enjoys it!! What cult do you think I am part of? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steggyD Posted March 16, 2022 Report Share Posted March 16, 2022 On 3/12/2022 at 1:35 PM, Jamie_B said: Nato's expansion into Ukraine is something Ukraine should have the right to make a choice about as should any other sovereign nation. True, but do you think USA would sit by and allow Russia to build defenses in Mexico? When you play politics with other nations, sometimes people die. It's been like that since the beginning of civilization. Is it right? No, I wish there were no wars. But since we have multiple nations with multiple values, sometimes bad things are going to happen. Especially when you keep poking at your so called enemy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted March 16, 2022 Report Share Posted March 16, 2022 5 minutes ago, steggyD said: True, but do you think USA would sit by and allow Russia to build defenses in Mexico? When you play politics with other nations, sometimes people die. It's been like that since the beginning of civilization. Is it right? No, I wish there were no wars. But since we have multiple nations with multiple values, sometimes bad things are going to happen. Especially when you keep poking at your so called enemy. Sure but lets not call them our so called enemy, Putin is former KGB and has always had ideas of returning Russia to it's former "glory". His entire worldview is through that KGB lens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted March 16, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2022 Agree.. Putin wants a reformed USSR.. Any country that has boundaries with Russia are included in his plans.. KGB was a monstrous unit that had no civil humanity thoughts at all..Murderous Thugs .. I think Putin is a devil and a coup or assassination has to take place soon.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steggyD Posted March 16, 2022 Report Share Posted March 16, 2022 1 hour ago, claptonrocks said: Agree.. Putin wants a reformed USSR.. Any country that has boundaries with Russia are included in his plans.. KGB was a monstrous unit that had no civil humanity thoughts at all..Murderous Thugs .. I think Putin is a devil and a coup or assassination has to take place soon.. I have a plan, but it would involve a little collateral damage. All western nations should release missiles on all locations at one time that Putin and any of his closest buddies will be. Just blow it all up at once, no declaration of war or anything, just fucking do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted March 16, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2022 10 minutes ago, steggyD said: I have a plan, but it would involve a little collateral damage. All western nations should release missiles on all locations at one time that Putin and any of his closest buddies will be. Just blow it all up at once, no declaration of war or anything, just fucking do it. Collateral damage.. Would make us no better than Putan.. Let his own do the dirty deed.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted March 16, 2022 Report Share Posted March 16, 2022 You guys realize that Putin has nukes right? Anything that involves the use of any military force is a bad bad idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steggyD Posted March 16, 2022 Report Share Posted March 16, 2022 32 minutes ago, Jamie_B said: You guys realize that Putin has nukes right? Anything that involves the use of any military force is a bad bad idea. I'm talking very unrealistic situation here. I know this won't happen, but if it could, then ... High tech precision weapons. Blow shit up fast, before he can react to nukes. That's why I say all his buddies, too. Kill them all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted March 16, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2022 1 hour ago, steggyD said: I'm talking very unrealistic situation here. I know this won't happen, but if it could, then ... High tech precision weapons. Blow shit up fast, before he can react to nukes. That's why I say all his buddies, too. Kill them all. Im not so sure John Bolton wouldn't agree with you and that's not a good side to be on in dodgeball.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted March 17, 2022 Report Share Posted March 17, 2022 Above all, while defending our own vital interests, nuclear powers must avert those confrontations which bring an adversary to a choice of either a humiliating retreat or a nuclear war. To adopt that kind of course in the nuclear age would be evidence only of the bankruptcy of our policy—or of a collective death-wish for the world. -- John F. Kennedy, American University speech, June 1963 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|kennethmw| Posted March 21, 2022 Report Share Posted March 21, 2022 On 3/1/2022 at 5:26 PM, Jamie_B said: We are seeing the results of just how bad of an idea it was. It should have been apparent to everyone that by the way he behaved during the campaign was the way he was going to govern. Not a Biden or Harris fan by any stretch of the imagination but dear God nothing could be as bad as the former fascist gameshow host of a President. He had zero qualifications to govern, and the results show it. On 3/1/2022 at 5:50 PM, claptonrocks said: You say the word fascist when mentioning Trump.. Can you not see that the Biden admin are bent on making this country socialists? Or is that aok with you? I don’t think you have a Fucking Clue about what communism is. But, then again, I don’t think you have a Fucking Clue about anything!😂😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dub Posted July 11, 2022 Report Share Posted July 11, 2022 On 2/28/2022 at 5:18 PM, Jamie_B said: Why hasn't Kyle Rittenhouses mother taken him to Ukraine? Because he was only interested in finding an excuse to shoot political opponents. It was domestic terrorism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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