WRAPradio Posted March 8, 2022 Report Share Posted March 8, 2022 overthecap.com has us at $34.6M under the cap. spotrac has us at $35.8M under the cap. These numbers include the JBIII franchise tag, but I'm hoping we still get a long-term deal done with him. Hobson normally says we keep, what, $10M for injuries and draft picks...so that would give us about $25M to spend in FA? I'm no cap/FA expert, but it feels like we're going to run through this money quickly. Add another $10M by cutting Waynes...that should have been done yesterday as far as I'm concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRAPradio Posted March 8, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2022 Here are our top salaries. If we sign another center, saving 6M by cutting Hopkins would be nice; and as much as I love Mixon, I hate paying that much for a RB...especially one that's not a 3-down back because he can't protect. I'm not suggesting cutting him, I'm wondering if there's a way to lower his cap hit. Looking at the overall roster, we spend way too much on the RB position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRAPradio Posted March 8, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2022 This WR room is going to start getting really expensive in the next couple of years with Boyd, Chase and Higgins. WE may want to look at drafting a WR in the later rounds to see if we can develop someone behind the those three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snarkster Posted March 8, 2022 Report Share Posted March 8, 2022 1 hour ago, WRAPradio said: overthecap.com has us at $34.6M under the cap. spotrac has us at $35.8M under the cap. These numbers include the JBIII franchise tag, but I'm hoping we still get a long-term deal done with him. Hobson normally says we keep, what, $10M for injuries and draft picks...so that would give us about $25M to spend in FA? I'm no cap/FA expert, but it feels like we're going to run through this money quickly. Add another $10M by cutting Waynes...that should have been done yesterday as far as I'm concerned. If we sign a Center, you can probably factor Hopkins' cap figure in as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted March 8, 2022 Report Share Posted March 8, 2022 1 hour ago, WRAPradio said: This WR room is going to start getting really expensive in the next couple of years with Boyd, Chase and Higgins. WE may want to look at drafting a WR in the later rounds to see if we can develop someone behind the those three. I'm hoping we draft a #4 WR that can do kick returns and maybe develop into a starter when that WR room becomes too expensive. And even if he doesnt I think we draft at least Boyd's replacement soon. I also don't think we will be able to afford Chase and Higgins, and will likely have to draft another WR to replace one of them as well. Obviously Chase is preferable to keep, not a slight on Higgins as he is a good #1, but Chase is special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleEarl Posted March 8, 2022 Report Share Posted March 8, 2022 12 minutes ago, Jamie_B said: I'm hoping we draft a #4 WR that can do kick returns and maybe develop into a starter when that WR room becomes too expensive. And even if he doesnt I think we draft at least Boyd's replacement soon. I also don't think we will be able to afford Chase and Higgins, and will likely have to draft another WR to replace one of them as well. Obviously Chase is preferable to keep, not a slight on Higgins as he is a good #1, but Chase is special. They could afford Chase and Higgins, but Boyd will have to go. That might happen faster than you think if the Bengals somehow ran into a good TE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted March 8, 2022 Report Share Posted March 8, 2022 Just now, UncleEarl said: They could afford Chase and Higgins, but Boyd will have to go. That might happen faster than you think if the Bengals somehow ran into a good TE. So do they turn from a 3WR 1 TE to a 2 WR 2 TE base? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleEarl Posted March 8, 2022 Report Share Posted March 8, 2022 5 minutes ago, Jamie_B said: So do they turn from a 3WR 1 TE to a 2 WR 2 TE base? Possibly. You go with your talent. They sure don't have the talent for a 2TE base. Just throwing out a scenario on how you can keep your two top WRs. A good receiving TE can supplant a high end slot WR. I think Boyd is great, but he makes too much money for a #3 target at best. Then again, see someone get injured and they'll be glad they have him. Sigh...these are the kinds of decisions they are going to have to make in a couple years. Can't keep 'em all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted March 8, 2022 Report Share Posted March 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, UncleEarl said: Possibly. You go with your talent. They sure don't have the talent for a 2TE base. Just throwing out a scenario on how you can keep your two top WRs. A good receiving TE can supplant a high end slot WR. I think Boyd is great, but he makes too much money for a #3 target at best. Then again, see someone get injured and they'll be glad they have him. Sigh...these are the kinds of decisions they are going to have to make in a couple years. Can't keep 'em all. The Bengals rarely give a 3rd contract, so I think Boyd moving on when his contract is up is pretty likely. Though I say that and I wont be surprised of Uzomah is on his 3rd contact with us next year, at a reduced rate than his current one mind you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_C_Deadpeople Posted March 8, 2022 Report Share Posted March 8, 2022 Well, it was fun while it lasted. Even if it never got started. For all his huffing and puffing, Aaron Rodgers didn’t blow Green Bay’s house down. Ian Rapoport of NFL Media reports that the Packers and Rodgers have agreed to terms on a four-year, $200 million deal. It makes him the highest paid player in league history. He’ll get $153 million guaranteed, and it will reduce his cap number of $46.66 million. As usual, the devil will reside in the details of the deal. How much is fully guaranteed at signing? Is it a two-year commitment? Three years? Four? We’ll know once the deal is available to be scrutinized. Regardless, it ends the drama regarding Rodgers’s destination. For all the bluster about wanting out, he’s staying put. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRAPradio Posted March 8, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2022 10 minutes ago, I_C_Deadpeople said: Well, it was fun while it lasted. Even if it never got started. For all his huffing and puffing, Aaron Rodgers didn’t blow Green Bay’s house down. Ian Rapoport of NFL Media reports that the Packers and Rodgers have agreed to terms on a four-year, $200 million deal. It makes him the highest paid player in league history. He’ll get $153 million guaranteed, and it will reduce his cap number of $46.66 million. As usual, the devil will reside in the details of the deal. How much is fully guaranteed at signing? Is it a two-year commitment? Three years? Four? We’ll know once the deal is available to be scrutinized. Regardless, it ends the drama regarding Rodgers’s destination. For all the bluster about wanting out, he’s staying put. Wow! It just boggles my mind how other teams do this and here we are $30M+ UNDER the cap and we're already talking about how we may need to replace Boyd and Higgins! Burrow hasn't even signed his new contract yet. Other teams seem to make it work, I'm hoping we have a capoligist that can make it work for us too. I do like that we're never in cap hell, but at the same time I don't know if we give ourselves a consistent shot to win managing the cap like we do. Being a Lakers fan, I love how they went all in for a championship in 2020, but now they're in cap hell and will probably miss the playoffs this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky151 Posted March 8, 2022 Report Share Posted March 8, 2022 Other teams take it one year at a time. You don't hear nonsense from them about putting money aside for a Burrow extension that may not come for 3 years. In the NFL, the future is now and the Bengals should be going all-in for 2022. We'll see if they actually do that or not. History says they won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_C_Deadpeople Posted March 8, 2022 Report Share Posted March 8, 2022 21 minutes ago, WRAPradio said: Wow! It just boggles my mind how other teams do this and here we are $30M+ UNDER the cap and we're already talking about how we may need to replace Boyd and Higgins! Burrow hasn't even signed his new contract yet. Other teams seem to make it work, I'm hoping we have a capoligist that can make it work for us too. I do like that we're never in cap hell, but at the same time I don't know if we give ourselves a consistent shot to win managing the cap like we do. Being a Lakers fan, I love how they went all in for a championship in 2020, but now they're in cap hell and will probably miss the playoffs this year. The cap can be manipulated (legally), leveraged may be a better term but eventually you have to de-leverage like the Saints had to do. Leveraging works best when the cap is rising each year, it is supposed to be at around $270M ny 2024/25 so a lot of teams will push contract dollars out using voidable years, etc. And of course many teams re-do contrcats to move base salaires to bonuses etc etc. Butn the $153M gurantee in the Rodgers deal is a huge huge number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted March 8, 2022 Report Share Posted March 8, 2022 5 hours ago, WRAPradio said: Here are our top salaries. If we sign another center, saving 6M by cutting Hopkins would be nice; and as much as I love Mixon, I hate paying that much for a RB...especially one that's not a 3-down back because he can't protect. I'm not suggesting cutting him, I'm wondering if there's a way to lower his cap hit. Looking at the overall roster, we spend way too much on the RB position. Your right... Mixon's 8mil is high but he's signed to a contract and Bengals will pay him.. Its also nice to have a top runner as well. Chris Evans could make a push on snaps this year. Kid is good.. Darren Simmons budget is lower than I thought.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky151 Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 That budget for Simmons is just McFearsome. Huber and Harris are free agents at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 This was a good video Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
membengal Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 John Sheerhan, with the appropriate deep sigh, dealing with Hobson's latest inanity: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat Posted March 10, 2022 Report Share Posted March 10, 2022 On 3/9/2022 at 10:29 AM, membengal said: John Sheerhan, with the appropriate deep sigh, dealing with Hobson's latest inanity: I needed to hear that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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