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2 hours ago, Jamie_B said:

 

Sure.

 

Next question. Has Hunter Biden texted with anyone on his Dad's staff to try to overturn the election?

 

I don't necessary have issue with Thomas doing the work she's doing with regard to her agency, however her trying to get the election overturned does create a conflict of interest for her husband when it comes to ruling on the elections. 

 

Not sure I see anything remotely the same with Biden.

 

This is what we call a false equivalency. 

 

Who is "we"?

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OK I had to come out of lurk mode just to 

 

:lmao:

 

at you mf's STILL talking about Hunter god damn Biden's god damn laptop.

 

Do you listen to yourselves? What's the matter, have you forgotten about Hillary's emails?!

 

This weasel con artist scumbag you blindly support deleted 7 *hours* of White House recordings during a failed coup attempt and you want to talk about an alleged laptop.  Fucking priceless.

 

I'll just say again for the record that White Christian Nationalist fucks can all suck a rancid dick.  You're traitors, pure & simple, only you're too god damned ignorant to realize it yet.

 

"Democrats are the *real* racists"? motherfucker please..  Are you for real with this nonsense?  There's your everyday white fragility and then there's this triggered fuckin mayonnaise-flavored snowflake.  God forbid we admit slavery happened. Good lord the mental gymnastics you've got going on there.  Absolutely mind boggling.

 

The rest of y'all, who-dey, good luck trying to get some of these goofs to stop stabbing themselves in the eye with a fork every time they eat.  Jesus wept I feel stupider just from having skimmed over some of this nonsense.  Just.. wow.

 

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3 hours ago, Jamie_B said:

This fixation with Hunter Biden is a distraction. He doesn't hold office and has no effect on public policy. 

 

It's weird, I do agree, but you have to look back all the way to Billy Carter. That's as far back as I can go because I was not alive during Nixon or Ford. But Remember Billy Beer? The fixation on him, or the underage drinking Bush sisters? Or Obama's and possible weed party they were at? It's just like celeb watching. I don't get it and I don't like it, but with Hunter, it's a bit different. He was involved in shady deals, but he shared bank accounts with dad, where all this money was going into. I think it's the media trying to make that connection to say something more was going on? No idea, but it is a news story as much as you and I thinnk it's kinda dumb. 

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17 minutes ago, T-Dub said:

OK I had to come out of lurk mode just to 

 

:lmao:

 

at you mf's STILL talking about Hunter god damn Biden's god damn laptop.

 

Do you listen to yourselves? What's the matter, have you forgotten about Hillary's emails?!

 

This weasel con artist scumbag you blindly support deleted 7 *hours* of White House recordings during a failed coup attempt and you want to talk about an alleged laptop.  Fucking priceless.

 

I'll just say again for the record that White Christian Nationalist fucks can all suck a rancid dick.  You're traitors, pure & simple, only you're too god damned ignorant to realize it yet.

 

"Democrats are the *real* racists"? motherfucker please..  Are you for real with this nonsense?  There's your everyday white fragility and then there's this triggered fuckin mayonnaise-flavored snowflake.  God forbid we admit slavery happened. Good lord the mental gymnastics you've got going on there.  Absolutely mind boggling.

 

The rest of y'all, who-dey, good luck trying to get some of these goofs to stop stabbing themselves in the eye with a fork every time they eat.  Jesus wept I feel stupider just from having skimmed over some of this nonsense.  Just.. wow.

 

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TDub.  Welcome back, please stay around.  You are greatly missed, at least by me, any way.

 

I really think most politicians are crap, maybe some are bigger piles of shit than others but piles of shit none the least.

 

When I think of politics I always remember this....

 

 

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3 hours ago, Jamie_B said:

 

 

 

I dont even know where to start with this.....


I have seen it man. I will NEVER side with democrats ever again after what I have seen them doing to marginal communities. As a minority in CA whty have FUGGGGGED us over here. Dig below the lies. Look at democrat run cities.. Not saying Republicans are good either. They are pussies and don't do anything they say they will do either. But they don't use that stupid race card us minorities are kind of getting tired of. In CA it's terrible here. 

 

Something that really caught me by surprise.. 17 out of the highest crime big cities are democrat run. Two are independants, and one is Republican (Jacksonville, FL). I have watched year after year democrats promise stuff, and year after year the news cover for them. 

 

Not sure how to respond to your posts here either, but if you have a question feel free and ask! We are all Bengal fans here and I don't hate any of you for your views. Just be respectful and we can chat. 

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2 hours ago, Jamie_B said:

 

Sure.

 

Next question. Has Hunter Biden texted with anyone on his Dad's staff to try to overturn the election?

 

I don't necessary have issue with Thomas doing the work she's doing with regard to her agency, however her trying to get the election overturned does create a conflict of interest for her husband when it comes to ruling on the elections. 

 

Not sure I see anything remotely the same with Biden.

 

This is what we call a false equivalency. 

 

This type of election has never happened before. Lots of weird videos of people getting kicked out of counting rooms or saying they are leaving and then going back in and counting more that were stored away under a table.. Just a lot of weird stuff. I am not saying Trump won, but because we never had an election like that I thought it should have been looked into. They did and that was that. I don't thinkn they should have continued that narrative, but questioning an election is hardly unheard of. Hillary contested the election and actually still is when being interviewed, as well as that weird podesta guy. 

 

 

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33 minutes ago, T-Dub said:

 

This weasel con artist scumbag you blindly support deleted 7 *hours* of White House recordings during a failed coup attempt and you want to talk about an alleged laptop.  Fucking priceless.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It was not a coup attempt. Sorry man but the FBI came out and said it was not an insurrection, and that it was just a riot. One of the guys today that was there was aquitted because the cops had the doors open and were letting people in. But calling it a coup atttempt is 100% wrong. It was a riot at the worst place to have a riot. 

 

 

 

 

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I'm going to bed, I have a friend who is a capitol police officer that I messaged to be safe that day.

 

As far as I'm concerned every last person involved in going into that building that day is a traitor and can rot in a jail cell for it. They called it their 1776. That was their words.

 

Fuck every single one of those traitors.

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8 minutes ago, Jamie_B said:

How many court cases do yall need before you come to grips with the fact that Trump lost?

 

I say Trump lost... People's hatred for Trump made people vote against their own interests and livelihood which is really crazy for me. I don't like Trump (but I did vote for him), but My 401k, and stocks LOVED him. That's all I care about. AM I DOING BETTER? Under Biden I have to un-retire, and my 401k is down 25% in 5 months. I have literally lost 75k worth of value in my 401k since november... That's a hard pill for me to swallow. He's definitely not doing me or my family any favors. There is a growing movement of minorities in CA that are just sick and tired of being used. I am one of them. My family are also involved.

 

My parents lost their farm because of democrat water and land laws that would not let them clear undergrowth. They had to sell because they kept losing money. My parents hired approx 250 seasonal workers, which are jobs no longer there. We had some cool cats that would travel in their 5th wheels and travel trailers that would sit on our land, and work for my parents for 4 months a year, then they would love to the next job and we would see them again in 8 months. It sucks man. Progressive laws are not helping us minorities. 

 

Do you have a 401k? Do you have stocks? Just curious. You don't have to answer. 

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2 minutes ago, Jamie_B said:

I'm going to bed, I have a friend who is a capitol police officer that I messaged to be safe that day.

 

As far as I'm concerned every last person involved in going into that building that day is a traitor and can rot in a jail cell for it. They called it their 1776. That was their words.

 

Fuck every single one of those traitors.

 

The cops that let them in are traitors too? That kind of mindset is why the country is divided. What about the people that took over the govt buildings and police stations in Portland and Seattle? They are traitors too right? What about the democrats who are trying to cut police forces? This is that weird insane crap that makes me REALLY dislike the democrat party. They don't care about the normal citizen. They cut your protection but you pay taxes so they can have it? 

 

It's mostly progressive democrats doing this so they can go to hell. They are the traitors in my eye. The republicans that let the progressive democrats do this without calling them out are also traitors in my eyes. 

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1 hour ago, Gary said:

 

The cops that let them in are traitors too? That kind of mindset is why the country is divided. What about the people that took over the govt buildings and police stations in Portland and Seattle? They are traitors too right?

 

 

No, because a POLICE STATION is not the Capitol.  Take the boot out of your mouth, damn.  

 

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That kind of mindset is why the country is divided

 

 

Yes, that is why.  Not the mob of pissed off losers trying to overturn a presidential election to enact a platform of hate and bigotry.  It's the *holding them accountable for it* that's the problem.  JFC.

 

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Gary said:

 

 

It was not a coup attempt. Sorry man but the FBI came out and said it was not an insurrection, and that it was just a riot.

 

 

 

 

Show me where the FBI said anything of the sort.  You're fucking delusional, bud.

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8 hours ago, Gary said:

 

I say Trump lost... People's hatred for Trump made people vote against their own interests and livelihood which is really crazy for me. I don't like Trump (but I did vote for him), but My 401k, and stocks LOVED him. That's all I care about. AM I DOING BETTER? Under Biden I have to un-retire, and my 401k is down 25% in 5 months. I have literally lost 75k worth of value in my 401k since november... That's a hard pill for me to swallow. He's definitely not doing me or my family any favors. There is a growing movement of minorities in CA that are just sick and tired of being used. I am one of them. My family are also involved.

 

My parents lost their farm because of democrat water and land laws that would not let them clear undergrowth. They had to sell because they kept losing money. My parents hired approx 250 seasonal workers, which are jobs no longer there. We had some cool cats that would travel in their 5th wheels and travel trailers that would sit on our land, and work for my parents for 4 months a year, then they would love to the next job and we would see them again in 8 months. It sucks man. Progressive laws are not helping us minorities. 

 

Do you have a 401k? Do you have stocks? Just curious. You don't have to answer. 

 

 

Stocks have been over valued anyway and because of the Republican tax cuts, rather than use the money they got back to invest in their workforce, companies simply took it and purchased their own stock. This artificially raises the value of the company when that much stock is purchased it fools investors into thinking the company is worth more than it is. 

 

Next we for the past few years have been in a global pandemic, this changed the landscape of how the economy fundamentally works, it exposed things that leftists like me have been arguing for a very long time. That workers have been getting the shaft for decades, and guess what? They are tired of it. What we are seeing now with this "great realignment" of people quitting their jobs for better things, or things like Starbucks and Amazon workers forming unions, is exactly people "voting in their own interest". We called them "essential workers" when we needed them during the pandemic, and then we scream "15 dollars is too much for flipping hamburgers, that's socialism, communism, ect.." when we don't deem them essential anymore, but then get pissed off when my hamburger isn't done just right or on time. Frankly I am in full support of these people finally getting the raise they deserve and full support of the entire food industry unionizing. 

 

Next alot of the issues in the economy are systemic and have been this way for decades, it's just that the problems got accelerated because of the pandemic. Global Supply Chains that some idiot thought that just in time shipping could do just fine with except when they couldnt because demand shifted when people couldnt leave their homes and couldn't spend money like they used to on services and instead spent it on goods causing that demand to go up in those sectors and the just in time shipping couldnt handle that kind of increase in demand, has caused inflation that we see now. ..... And this isn't just happening in the US....it's a global problem. But sure that's Biden's fault. (Of course had Cheetolini taken this pandemic seriously at all and not just cared about the stock market and his reelection we might have done better.... there would still be these issues as we see them in other countries as well.....but maybe less people would have died?..... I mean his own Dr. Brix said so)

 

As to having a 401k, yes I am white so I am prt of the 53% of white people who own stock..... (13% of Black families, and 10% of Hispanic families own) ..... 

 

I could as you only give a shit about myself, but when I watch Ohio and much of the mid-west struggle with an opioid crisis because much of the mid-west jobs we're shipped overseas as part of this nonsense that globalization was a good idea, I am pretty ok with working the rest of my life if it means actually solving some of the problems this country faces and breaking the backs of the oligarchs in this country. Fuck Bezos, Fuck Musk, and fuck the whole lot of them that have convinced far too many people that wealth trickles down. It doesn't, they just use it to send themselves into space. 

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9 hours ago, Gary said:

 

The cops that let them in are traitors too? That kind of mindset is why the country is divided. What about the people that took over the govt buildings and police stations in Portland and Seattle? They are traitors too right? What about the democrats who are trying to cut police forces? This is that weird insane crap that makes me REALLY dislike the democrat party. They don't care about the normal citizen. They cut your protection but you pay taxes so they can have it? 

 

It's mostly progressive democrats doing this so they can go to hell. They are the traitors in my eye. The republicans that let the progressive democrats do this without calling them out are also traitors in my eyes. 

 

 

If we find out that there were Capitol police that actually were a part of the conspiracy and not just "let people in" because there were 2 or 3 of them against a whole mob so leaving their stations to regroup with their fellow officers in larger numbers was a tactic for their own safety, and for preparing for the larger fight, and not just "letting people in", then yes those officers are traitors.....and they are worse than the traitors that stormed the capitol because they swore an oath to protect it.

 

But I have not seen that yet.

 

I would suggest that "cutting the police force" isn't really what you're being told it is. It's simply a matter of recognizing that the job of the police has grown into things they really aren't best equipped to do and it is putting a strain on them to do things that should not be their jobs. What "defund the police" means is that we reallocate the some of the funds that police get and put it into things like social services that can help prevent some of these problems.

 

Seriously turn off the Fox News and try digging deeper into some of these issues, instead of just repeating tropes. 

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Trump was the best thing that ever happened to Democrats. It's the only argument they have anymore. Well, what about Trump?

 

I'm not even a Trumper, but any time I argue against a Dem politician, someone says, "well, Trump". Fuck Trump.


Both parties need to hold their politicians accountable for what they do. But the problem is each side only reads news articles that lean their direction, so they have a skewed image of reality.

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1 hour ago, steggyD said:

 


Both parties need to hold their politicians accountable for what they do. But the problem is each side only reads news articles that lean their direction, so they have a skewed image of reality.

 

One "side" tried to violently overturn the results of an election that didn't go their way by storming the US capitol, attacking police, and trying to execute elected officials.  Anyone that participated in that, or supports or tries to excuse it, is a traitor to the United States and the Constitution.  Period.

 

This "both sides" shit is a nonstarter.  Try again.

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26 minutes ago, T-Dub said:

 

One "side" tried to violently overturn the results of an election that didn't go their way by storming the US capitol, attacking police, and trying to execute elected officials.  Anyone that participated in that, or supports or tries to excuse it, is a traitor to the United States and the Constitution.  Period.

 

This "both sides" shit is a nonstarter.  Try again.

How many people showed up at the "insurrection"? How many guns were involved?

 

I promise you that if that side decided to overturn the election, it would have turned out very different. The insurrection is no different than the buildings burned down in multiple cities the prior summer. A small group of people got a little nuts, but insurrection is laughable at best.

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2 minutes ago, steggyD said:

How many people showed up at the "insurrection"? How many guns were involved?

 

I promise you that if that side decided to overturn the election, it would have turned out very different. The insurrection is no different than the buildings burned down in multiple cities the prior summer. A small group of people got a little nuts, but insurrection is laughable at best.

 

Except that this was an attack on our government, not the Target down the street.

 

That anyone want's to equate this is amazing to me.

 

There was not any protestors involved in the protests the prior summer that showed up with zip ties with the intention of hog tying their elected representatives, that you would equate them is mind boggling to me.

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18 hours ago, Gary said:

I was a democrat until I realized that democrats were about as corrupt as they come in 2014. So I went independent. Since going independent I have kept a close on on both parties. While I don't like either of them much at all it's really clear that the democrats politicians are a bunch of racist idiots. I HATE them always using the race card, and I HATE that they fight fake wars like this "don't say gay" crap which has nothing to do with the bill that was passed. Nothing at all. I don't like democrats promising things to minorities and never delivering after they get the vote. 

 

I vote in local elections only as that has the most to do with our every day lives. 

 

Republicans don't do anything either. They don't defend themselves, they don't call out democrat racism and corruption enough, and they are too weak to stand up to the utter crap the progressive commie left is trying to push. Republicans have been trash too. I will never be a republican or a democrat.

 

 

I might have to go back to work now because I cannot make money on the market, and my 401k has lost about 25% value in 7 months. 

 

1. I cannot invest right now, because the stock market is just trash and you cannot trust anything. 

2. In Sacramento (downtown) about half the restaurants have closed down because they can't find people to work and the rules during covid were just suffocating. 

3. I have not been able to buy any baseball, football, cards because nothing is ever in stock. Literally nothing, for a year and a half has been available in a target or walmart. They don't ever update their web pages so you get tricked into thinking they have stock when they really don't. 

4. Prices on gas, and FOOD have been crazy. I was able to retire under Trump because my 401k rocked, stocks were doing great. Even under covid lockdowns my stocks were still doing awesome. Now I have to sit on my ever decreasing dollar which is only making a couple points, but losing more than that in total value. 

5. I cannot tap into my 401k yet because I am too young (without penalty), but I guess I should have because it's lost 26% value since last november. I cannot invest right now, so I might need to get a job again because of Biden. 

6. Under democrat rule, California has turned into a huge dump. There are homeless blanket forts everywhere (tarps, but they look like old school blanket forts you used to build with cushions and blankets). Along the freeway downtown there is this one blanket fort that's like 200 yards or more long. Lot of people live in it, and it looks pretty flipping neat (if I was still a kid). 

 

So replace both parties. The democrats are going WAY too far left, and the republicans are too much of pussies to do anything about ANYTHING. But replace democrats first because Biden is one flipping idiot of a president and he needs to leave ASAP. 

Good post..

Yeah its a fuckin shame where we're at now..

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15 hours ago, westside bengal said:

 

TDub.  Welcome back, please stay around.  You are greatly missed, at least by me, any way.

 

I really think most politicians are crap, maybe some are bigger piles of shit than others but piles of shit none the least.

 

When I think of politics I always remember this....

 

 

Truth...

 

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3 hours ago, steggyD said:

How many people showed up at the "insurrection"? 

 

Thousands? 

 

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How many guns were involved?

 

https://www.wsj.com/articles/oath-keepers-cached-weapons-for-jan-6-capitol-attack-prosecutors-say-11642693058

 

Hard to say, they were cached in vehicles and hotels nearby for supply after they'd gained control of the building.  Luckily they all turned chickenshit after one of them got shot, like the cowardly traitors that they are.

 

Keep making excuses for them, like the traitor that you are as well. 

 

If you hate democracy so much, why don't you just leave?  Plenty of other nations out there that'd be happy to have another bootlicking sycophant.  I'm sure Daddy Vlad could use more cannon fodder.

 


 

 

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