Media: Trump all over Epstein files

The People: Show us the files!

Trump: I wll release Epstein files!

The People: OK where are the files?

Trump: Sure let me just tamper with them first

The Media: Trump may tamper with files!

FBI: We are tampering with the files

DOJ: OK here are the tampered files

The People: Hey these files are tampered with!

Trump: No they are a Democrat hoax! Also the only guilty people are Bill Clinton and these random black celebrities I don't like!

The Media: Epstein Files may have been tampered with!

The People: (gasping) Damn you, Pam Bondi!

You see why I no longer take this shit seriously

I dont know what you want. If were going to complain about them not following the rule of law, the answer is exactly what? What processes or faculty does anyone have here? Do we just say hey were going to arrest Trump with what power to do so? What police? What grounds? Seems as if anything that we want to get him on has to follow some sort of case law? I dont know what you want here.

5 hours ago, Jamie_B said:

I dont know what you want. If were going to complain about them not following the rule of law, the answer is exactly what? What processes or faculty does anyone have here? Do we just say hey were going to arrest Trump with what power to do so? What police? What grounds? Seems as if anything that we want to get him on has to follow some sort of case law? I dont know what you want here.

A general strike. Crowds in the streets. Shut this shit down entirely while we still have a chance.

"Rule of Law"? WTF is that? This administration breaks the law with impunity.

What I want are real life consequences. Not more "hearings" and another round of feckless hand-wringing from a fake opposition party.

"Why won't this corrupt government save us from the corrupt government?!"

27 minutes ago, T-Dub said:

A general strike. Crowds in the streets. Shut this shit down entirely while we still have a chance.

"Rule of Law"? WTF is that? This administration breaks the law with impunity.

What I want are real life consequences. Not more "hearings" and another round of feckless hand-wringing from a fake opposition party.

"Why won't this corrupt government save us from the corrupt government?!"

I'd love a general strike, but we have to remember that we live in a hyper-individualized nation, for right or wrong. The question is how long it takes for the conditions to break for that to happen, meaning how long does it take for this stuff to deeply effect people's pocketbooks and not just poor people, but the middle-class people, especially and for them to realize that blaming the other isnt fixing their problems.

I think you'd have better luck with going after Bondi/Patel. Im not even being flippant here, thats how little faith I have in a population that voted this guy in with the popular vote too. In order to change minds you have to see things get bad for more people than it is now.

8 minutes ago, Jamie_B said:

I'd love a general strike, but we have to remember that we live in a hyper-individualized nation, for right or wrong. The question is how long it takes for the conditions to break for that to happen, meaning how long does it take for this stuff to deeply effect people's pocketbooks and not just poor people, but the middle-class people, especially and for them to realize that blaming the other isnt fixing their problems.

I think you'd have better luck with going after Bondi/Patel. Im not even being flippant here, thats how little faith I have in a population that voted this guy in with the popular vote too. In order to change minds you have to see things get bad for more people than it is now.

It would have to be organized with the big trade unions. Teamsters, AFL-CIO, NUHW. Hell, any one of them alone could end this shit in a week.

2 minutes ago, T-Dub said:

It would have to be organized with the big trade unions. Teamsters, AFL-CIO, NUHW. Hell, any one of them alone could end this shit in a week.

Not likely quick enough for you but there are plans.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/jan/22/autoworkers-uaw-shawn-fain-may-2028-national-strike

11 minutes ago, Jamie_B said:

Not likely quick enough for you but there are plans.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/jan/22/autoworkers-uaw-shawn-fain-may-2028-national-strike

2 more years of this and it's not going to matter. Not really about what I want or when. They'll be "domestic terrorists" simply for discussing it.

Here ya go, Jamie. Co-incidentally, this article appeared this morning. I knew a few people who were associated with/went through the Highlander School and looked up to them. This'll help you keep the faith:

Progressive Educator Myles Horton's Lessons for Fighting for Social Justice Today

15 hours ago, Jamie_B said:

I think you'd have better luck with going after Bondi/Patel.

Undoubtedly, because it's mostly symbolic and accomplishes nothing. That's our modern Democratic Party in a nutshell.

Meanwhile, from the “You can’t make this shit up” files:

Republicans in the Ohio House want to name a 2 mile stretch of I-70 that goes through downtown Columbus “Donald J. Trump Freedom Highway “. Ignoring the fact that in the last election, Kamala Harris beat Trump by 38 points in Columbus, and also ignoring the fact that this stretch of freeway runs through Joyce Beatty’s district and she’s suing the Trump administration over renaming the Kennedy Center, this is just a stupid idea.

1 hour ago, Shebengal said:

Meanwhile, from the “You can’t make this shit up” files:

Republicans in the Ohio House want to name a 2 mile stretch of I-70 that goes through downtown Columbus “Donald J. Trump Freedom Highway “. Ignoring the fact that in the last election, Kamala Harris beat Trump by 38 points in Columbus, and also ignoring the fact that this stretch of freeway runs through Joyce Beatty’s district and she’s suing the Trump administration over renaming the Kennedy Center, this is just a stupid idea.

I think we should rename every federally-funded anything the "Donald J. Trump Very Stable Genius ______________". We could replace Lincoln's head at the Monument with Trump's constipated pucker-face. Put an extra gold star on the flag, just for him.

Maybe seeing him plastered on everything would help drive the point home?

Dear Leader raped and sold little girls

Oh my goodness, could Tatyana Gabbard be a Russian spy? Appointed by someone Russia is blackmailing with video of him raping children?

https://www.newsweek.com/tulsi-gabbard-dni-whistleblower-complaint-congress-11453594

MAYBE TODAY IS THE DAY!!!

11 hours ago, CincyInDC said:

MAYBE TODAY IS THE DAY!!!

He dared to make even a feeble gesture against Dear Leader so he is being sidelined.

How fucked are we that the kook notion of him being sprayed with something is not outside the realm of possibilities? Might want to look up the Skripal poisoning in the UK before you dismiss it out of hand.

McConnell is ancient and sickly. I do not think he was poisoned or infected. I'm only pointing out that people he may have offended have shown themselves willing and capable of such things.

BTW yall see the alleged autopsy photos of Epstein's neck? I'm no doctor but he did not hang himself with bed sheets.

Our President did that.

I suppose everyone's seen the "Obamas as monkeys" AI slop posted by Dear Leader. While fairly typical crass "tacky racist dementia grandpa with access to social media" I've also seen a lot people saying he's gone too far.. Not raping kids, not trying to overthrow the government, but this here?

All he's really doing is holding up a mirror to a part of this country we've been pretending didn't exist. Every time I read "unprecedented" or the like I just roll my eyes.

31 minutes ago, T-Dub said:

I suppose everyone's seen the "Obamas as monkeys" AI slop posted by Dear Leader. While fairly typical crass "tacky racist dementia grandpa with access to social media" I've also seen a lot people saying he's gone too far.. Not raping kids, not trying to overthrow the government, but this here?

All he's really doing is holding up a mirror to a part of this country we've been pretending didn't exist. Every time I read "unprecedented" or the like I just roll my eyes.

Yeah the Bigotry has been there out in the open for a while, yall are pretending that this is new?

It's only a very small step below the pedo stuff, that is easily the most disgusting thing

Also how fucking sad it it we are comparing the two and comparing them from the same guy and that that guy is our President?

Though I suppose you're right. America is not like this because Trump is President. Trump is President because America is like this

Think it's worth remembering that not voting "won" that election by a large margin. The majority of eligible voters decided not to bother. Now we're in a position I don't think we can vote our way out of anymore.

Trump should've been in prison for money laundering 20 years ago. Epstein was convicted as a sex offender for solicting prostitution from minors in 2008.

Ultimately this country was founded on the basis of white supremacy and it won't survive the 21st century if we insist on clinging to it. And shouldn't.

Oh look, it's another MAGAt that thinks it's OK to assault teenage girls. GOP = Gang of Pedos

• a tyrant that fucks kids, it's important to add. Not even Hitler did that.

One of his sons also has a minor cabinet position in the Trump White House.

Totally exonerated!

4 hours ago, T-Dub said:

One of his sons also has a minor cabinet position in the Trump White House.

Totally exonerated!

Damn, he’s creepy looking.

Also, my husband fell asleep to C-SPAN the other night during the Wexner deposition. I was half listening to it and he either is suffering from dementia, or has the worst case of convenient amnesia I’ve ever seen, and I’m banking on the latter. This is a man who micromanaged his Limited stores, according to my niece who worked in one when she was in high school and college and got her degree in fashion merchandising. I tried to get her to move to Columbus and work at the Limited headquarters and she said no way. Plus, every time I had a closing in his little New Albany neighborhood, I had to give the management company the buyer’s name and sales price because they had a report they had to fill out for Mr. Wexner. He wanted to know who was moving into his neighborhood. You’re going to tell me that as much as he micromanaged everything, he didn’t know that Epstein was one of the trustees for his foundation?? PUH-LEEZE!! Plus, he’s also been subpoenaed to provide testimony in the whole Dr. Richard Strauss investigation, plus he owned Abercrombie and Fitch, and the former CEO and an associate is accused of sexually abusing male models for A&F. A&F used to advertise looking for fit models for their clothing, and at one point my son fit the guidelines and I mentioned it to him and he was like, “No, thanks.” He didn’t care for their clothing.

Damn, he’s creepy looking.

2 minutes ago, Shebengal said:

Also, my husband fell asleep to C-SPAN the other night during the Wexner deposition. I was half listening to it and he either is suffering from dementia, or has the worst case of convenient amnesia I’ve ever seen, and I’m banking on the latter. This is a man who micromanaged his Limited stores, according to my niece who worked in one when she was in high school and college and got her degree in fashion merchandising. I tried to get her to move to Columbus and work at the Limited headquarters and she said no way. Plus, every time I had a closing in his little New Albany neighborhood, I had to give the management company the buyer’s name and sales price because they had a report they had to fill out for Mr. Wexner. He wanted to know who was moving into his neighborhood. You’re going to tell me that as much as he micromanaged everything, he didn’t know that Epstein was one of the trustees for his foundation?? PUH-LEEZE!! Plus, he’s also been subpoenaed to provide testimony in the whole Dr. Richard Strauss investigation, plus he owned Abercrombie and Fitch, and the former CEO and an associate is accused of sexually abusing male models for A&F. A&F used to advertise looking for fit models for their clothing, and at one point my son fit the guidelines and I mentioned it to him and he was like, “No, thanks.” He didn’t care for their clothing.

'bout to be a whole bunch of shit getting renamed around Columbus

& yeah it's basically a club for the biggest creeps on the planet