UncleEarl Posted January 18, 2023 Report Share Posted January 18, 2023 36 minutes ago, New Jersey Bengal said: Regarding Jonah he tore his patella tendon therefore knee cap popped out happened to my son this past Sunday at a hockey tournament in Detroit the pain is immense and so is the swelling swelling takes at least 10 days to subside and after the first instance surgery is recommended Ouch! Hope he's feeling better. Sucks missing games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Tigre Posted January 18, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2023 3 minutes ago, I_C_Deadpeople said: They don't fix games, but Goodell does consult with Vince McMahon. The NBA supposedly doesn't either, but they also have Vince on speed-dial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|High School Harry| Posted January 18, 2023 Report Share Posted January 18, 2023 https://www.yahoo.com/sports/nfl-playoffs-upset-alert-ranking-113516917.html NFL playoffs upset alert: Ranking top four seeds based on who should worry most in divisional round Buffalo Bills As dominant as they've been at times, seven of Buffalo's last 10 games have been decided by one score – including a narrow escape in the wild-card round from a Miami Dolphins club starting an unproven rookie quarterback. The Cincinnati Bengals are a much better opponent and put that on display against Buffalo in Week 17 before Bills S Damar Hamlin's terrifying collapse. Thankfully, Hamlin's recovery seems to be going as well as could be hoped, but it also doesn't change the fact Bengals QB Joe Burrow will likely be testing third-string S Dean Marlowe. Offensively, Buffalo QB Josh Allen is up to 22 turnovers on the season, most in the league when including playoffs. He was also sacked a season-high seven times by Miami. That could play into the hands of a Cincinnati defense that has capable pass rushers in DEs Trey Hendrickson and Sam Hubbard and averaged 1.5 takeaways per game during the regular season. And as much inspiration as the Bills may have drawn from Hamlin, the Bengals have been salty regarding how the NFL handled the cancellation of their first game – and that didn't include moving this playoff matchup to a neutral site. Just sayin' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Tigre Posted January 18, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2023 32 minutes ago, High School Harry said: https://www.yahoo.com/sports/nfl-playoffs-upset-alert-ranking-113516917.html NFL playoffs upset alert: Ranking top four seeds based on who should worry most in divisional round Buffalo Bills As dominant as they've been at times, seven of Buffalo's last 10 games have been decided by one score – including a narrow escape in the wild-card round from a Miami Dolphins club starting an unproven rookie quarterback. The Cincinnati Bengals are a much better opponent and put that on display against Buffalo in Week 17 before Bills S Damar Hamlin's terrifying collapse. Thankfully, Hamlin's recovery seems to be going as well as could be hoped, but it also doesn't change the fact Bengals QB Joe Burrow will likely be testing third-string S Dean Marlowe. Offensively, Buffalo QB Josh Allen is up to 22 turnovers on the season, most in the league when including playoffs. He was also sacked a season-high seven times by Miami. That could play into the hands of a Cincinnati defense that has capable pass rushers in DEs Trey Hendrickson and Sam Hubbard and averaged 1.5 takeaways per game during the regular season. And as much inspiration as the Bills may have drawn from Hamlin, the Bengals have been salty regarding how the NFL handled the cancellation of their first game – and that didn't include moving this playoff matchup to a neutral site. Just sayin' "Did you just read what this guy wrote???" "Yeah...don't worry about it" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griever Posted January 18, 2023 Report Share Posted January 18, 2023 Attending a few Bills games in the past, one thing I've never understood is on every third down, they blare a train whistle like full blast on top of the crowd noise, annoying as hell also not sure how that is legal anyways. I wish I had the confidence of a lot of posters on here but I feel like the Bengals are about to run into a buzzsaw in Allen and the Bills. Gotta beat the best to be the best I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griever Posted January 18, 2023 Report Share Posted January 18, 2023 This could be key...Allen was sacked I think SEVEN times against the Dolphins. Backups on the Oline are worrisome for the Bengals. Both defenses could feast... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Tigre Posted January 18, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, Griever said: Gotta beat the best to be the best I guess. That works in the Ric Flair world...but the NFL is a different level of shithousery (as the Brits call it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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T-Dub Posted January 18, 2023 Report Share Posted January 18, 2023 1 hour ago, UncleEarl said: If the NFL gets caught fixing games there will be hell to pay. Congress would go nuts on them. I would expect a RICO case put together as well. Why? What laws would they be breaking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleEarl Posted January 18, 2023 Report Share Posted January 18, 2023 13 minutes ago, T-Dub said: Why? What laws would they be breaking? Running a criminal enterprise? RICO. The feds would go nuts with discovery. They would shred the NFL. They would get all the emails and documents about Snyder. If they were destroyed they would pursue obstruction of justice charges. Even if the charges don’t stick it would hurt the NFL badly if not destroy it. As much money as the NFL has the US Government has more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Tigre Posted January 18, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2023 14 minutes ago, UncleEarl said: Running a criminal enterprise? RICO. The feds would go nuts with discovery. They would shred the NFL. They would get all the emails and documents about Snyder. If they were destroyed they would pursue obstruction of justice charges. Even if the charges don’t stick it would hurt the NFL badly if not destroy it. As much money as the NFL has the US Government has more. The feds have investigated the NFL…and certain franchises… in RICO violations several times. They’ve dodged some of these, and some just faded away. Most had to do with irregularities in acquisitions. Nothing league-shaking, but you are right: get directly involved in altering games for monetary gain, and they would go all Kennesaw Mountain Landis on them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Tigre Posted January 19, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2023 I will add: the NFL is very good at skirting the direct involvement in game/season altering. All they have to do, is to continue to change rules and/or expand them, and the baseline dynamic to get where they want to go financially is a straight line. The erstwhile “vote” to change existing rules in-season, is such an example. The decision made there directly impacted upcoming game results. It was “legal” in that the by-laws of the NFL allow for “emergency meetings” when needed to address an extraordinary occurrence (9/11 and Covid for example). This situation a few weeks ago was not anywhere close to those levels, but the league decided to make it such. The NFL has directly interfered in the outcomes of games—by simply this aberration they have done so. BUF is complicit—but in reality are simply useful idiots in the overall shadow movements Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKOTA Posted January 19, 2023 Report Share Posted January 19, 2023 49 minutes ago, Le Tigre said: I will add: the NFL is very good at skirting the direct involvement in game/season altering. All they have to do, is to continue to change rules and/or expand them, and the baseline dynamic to get where they want to go financially is a straight line. The erstwhile “vote” to change existing rules in-season, is such an example. The decision made there directly impacted upcoming game results. It was “legal” in that the by-laws of the NFL allow for “emergency meetings” when needed to address an extraordinary occurrence (9/11 and Covid for example). This situation a few weeks ago was not anywhere close to those levels, but the league decided to make it such. The NFL has directly interfered in the outcomes of games—by simply this aberration they have done so. BUF is complicit—but in reality are simply useful idiots in the overall shadow movements Referees are the primary tools used. Big play, throw a flag. Sacked the qb of team that’s supposed to advance, roughing the passer upcoming. Momentum can be easily stopped with penalties. Kill drives. Extend drives when needed. The NBA did it regularly, were they sued? Were they investigated? Not at all…He’ll, you had a referee tell you they fix games, yet people still follow blindly. Patriots won the SB after 9-11 happened. Against a team that was favored by 14 (Rams). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted January 19, 2023 Report Share Posted January 19, 2023 It's going to be interesting to see how this the NFL is no better than the WWE narrative plays out amongst those that believe it when we finally do win a Super Bowl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esjbh2 Posted January 19, 2023 Report Share Posted January 19, 2023 37 minutes ago, Jamie_B said: It's going to be interesting to see how this the NFL is no better than the WWE narrative plays out amongst those that believe it when we finally do win a Super Bowl Not saying I agree with the WWE narrative...but my guess is "well, we had to beat the other team(s) and the NFL to win". I will suggest that there do seem to be more game impacting questionable calls in more recent years, and it's clear that the NFL is leaning more towards "the show" than "the game". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleEarl Posted January 19, 2023 Report Share Posted January 19, 2023 2 hours ago, IKOTA said: Referees are the primary tools used. Big play, throw a flag. Sacked the qb of team that’s supposed to advance, roughing the passer upcoming. Momentum can be easily stopped with penalties. Kill drives. Extend drives when needed. The NBA did it regularly, were they sued? Were they investigated? Not at all…He’ll, you had a referee tell you they fix games, yet people still follow blindly. Patriots won the SB after 9-11 happened. Against a team that was favored by 14 (Rams). A referee involved with providing information to gamblers. Great source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Tigre Posted January 19, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2023 59 minutes ago, Jamie_B said: It's going to be interesting to see how this the NFL is no better than the WWE narrative plays out amongst those that believe it when we finally do win a Super Bowl The NBA has had this narrative for decades. Star-driven erstwhile “teams”—the ones who sell the air time and merchandise—virtually always win. The “stars” and the “teams” change a lot, but the dynamic is still there. Does it get by-passed periodically? Of course. One can never forget the star-filled, champions in waiting NY Knicks…being bested by a semi-known Houston side back then. But the Rockets played insanely above normal—and in spite of the obvious officiating bias against them the entire series. And they are just one example. But, for every Houston, there are many more Pittsburghs. The Bengals were Houston a year ago. They would have to repeat that—and surpass it—in order to do it this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dub Posted January 19, 2023 Report Share Posted January 19, 2023 3 hours ago, Jamie_B said: It's going to be interesting to see how this the NFL is no better than the WWE narrative plays out amongst those that believe it when we finally do win a Super Bowl I don't think anyone's made that claim. My impression is that Goodell (more the people pulling his strings) are making it more like the WWE. 6 hours ago, UncleEarl said: Running a criminal enterprise? RICO. The feds would go nuts with discovery. They would shred the NFL. They would get all the emails and documents about Snyder. If they were destroyed they would pursue obstruction of justice charges. Even if the charges don’t stick it would hurt the NFL badly if not destroy it. As much money as the NFL has the US Government has more. OK but what's criminal about it? If I raced squirrels in my back yard and took bets on the winner but was secretly feeding one of them coffee beans or some shit like that, where's the crime? If suckers want to bet on a rigged game I'm not sure any law is being broken. If rigged games were illegal there wouldn't be a casino or carnival left standing. The NFL already had a ruling declaring them "entertainment" & that they had no obligation to put on a fair competition. They could fix every game under that definition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalBuck Posted January 19, 2023 Report Share Posted January 19, 2023 Jai Alia disappeared after being busted for being fixed in the 80s/90s. It IS indeed illegal to represent a game or activity as chance, but it's actually rigged in some way. There were even game shows back in the 50s and 60s that were cancelled for being crooked too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HavePityPlease Posted January 19, 2023 Report Share Posted January 19, 2023 1 hour ago, T-Dub said: OK but what's criminal about it? If I raced squirrels in my back yard and took bets on the winner but was secretly feeding one of them coffee beans or some shit like that, where's the crime? If suckers want to bet on a rigged game I'm not sure any law is being broken. If rigged games were illegal there wouldn't be a casino or carnival left standing. The NFL already had a ruling declaring them "entertainment" & that they had no obligation to put on a fair competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Elflocko| Posted January 19, 2023 Report Share Posted January 19, 2023 13 hours ago, UncleEarl said: If the NFL gets caught fixing games there will be hell to pay. Congress would go nuts on them. I would expect a RICO case put together as well. You’re assuming a billion $ entity (NFL) hasn’t paid off the pertinent individuals in congress to sweep it under the rug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|High School Harry| Posted January 19, 2023 Report Share Posted January 19, 2023 I simply don't feel good about this game at all. But it does seem like Buffalo is Goddell's Chosen going all the way back to the Monday Night Screw Job where rather than have them lose, like they should have, the simply cancelled it and screwed us. The ridiculous coin flips and alternate sites and down to printing Buffalo v Chiefs in neutral Atlanta tix. Stinks to High Heaven. I think even with our piecemeal Offensive Line Joe could find a way to pick apart their defense esp after reading they have a third string Safety replacing 3. But... bad hoodoo and paranoia strikes deep. BUT... on the bright side... if (when) we win, think of the pants that will be loaded in Goody Goody's office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
membengal Posted January 19, 2023 Report Share Posted January 19, 2023 This discussion on the NFL actually fixing games is insane. It is literally illegal. People would go to jail. It isn't "entertainment". It is a sport. There are laws that govern this. Just...stop. FFS. You sound crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Tigre Posted January 19, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2023 Ah heck…let’s just have some fun. It’s the divisional round of the playoffs—2 games to Glendale. Whatever uncontrollable force there is coming from New York City, can yet be overcome. I’m going to relax and enjoy the ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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