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DT Offseason 2023


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Some thoughts 

1. DJ Reader is really good. I hope they extend him

2. BJ Hill had way to many snaps and needs someone to partner with him

3. The 3T Veteran FA group is VERY deep. To the point where it is so far the deepest area of free agency. 

4. Guys like Carter and Tufele have plenty of upside still and that helps getting a veteran.

 

    DL Age Overall Run D Pass Rush Coverage Snaps Starts 2022/Career stats Notes    
    Reader-Bengals 29 85.2 70.8 84.1 64.6 528 10/82 27-1fl-5h-2fr-1ff-4pd 294 B-96 A 6'3 347  
    Hill-Bengals 27 68.7 65.2 63.6 61.5 977 16/35 68-4fl-11h-3s-3fr-1ff-4pd 594 B- 128 OVT- 71 A 6'3 311  
    Tupou-Bengals 29 56.6 56.9 52 63.4 334 6/11 19-2fl-2s 215 B- 53 A 6'3 340  
    Tufele-Bengals 24 52.6 45.7 68.9 60 142 2/2 16-2fl-2h 101 B-31 A 6'3 305  
    Carter-Bengals 24 35.1 34.5 50.9 59.8 461 9/9 23-1fl-1h-.5s 295 B-78 A 6'4 282  
    Davis-Bengals 27 29.2 27.7 64.7   37 NA 3t      
Nose    
Depth    
    Joseph-Eagles 35 59.1 59.2 60.2 60 218 8/170 20-1h-.5s 177 AGP 6'4 329  
    Jenkins-Dolphins 34 58.5 52.3 67.7 59.8 270 0/30 20-1h 141 A-102 B 6'3 340 Bettcher 2018, Hobby 2019
    Davis-Pats 31 49.5 49.4 66.8 60 218 2/19 11-1fl-1h-1s-1fr 183 A 6'5 320  
B    
    Hargrave-Eagles 30 80.1 49 91.1 60.9 809 17/96 60-10fl-16h-11s-2fr-1ff-2pd 449 B-59 A 6'2 305  
    Tomlinson-Vikings 29 77 65 77.6 60 604 13/93 42-3fl-10h-2.5s-1fr-1ff 417 B-32 A-89 OVT 6'3 325 Bettcher-2019
7   Billings-Raiders 28 76.4 72.3 66.4 69.3 478 14/51 39-3tfl-3h 347 B-128A 6'1 311  
9   Ioannidis-Panthers 29 66.4 63.5 69.1 59.2 640 13/53 37-5fl-9h-1s-pd-1ff 365 B-214 OVT 6'3 305  
  2 Onyemata-Saints 31 64 53 66.9 72.8 682 17/68 43-5fl-11h-5s-1fr-pd 412 B-172 OVT 6'4 300  
    Jones-Broncos 26 63.6 57.4 65.5 60.6 558 15/61 34-3fl-4h-2s-6pd 291 B-227 A 6'0 305  
    Reed-Pacs 30 61.9 59.1 60.5 63.3 705 14/94 52-5fl-14h-2.5s-2fr-1ff 346 B-292 OVT 6'3 307  
    Ogunjobi-Stealers 29 61.7 62.8 57.5   636 16/79 48-7fl-11h-1.5s 414 B-166 OVT 6'3 305  
10 2 Tuttle-Saints 28 60.3 67.1 55.8 56 557 14/33 49-1fl-3h-2s-5pd 408 B-146A 6'3 300  
    Bryan-Browns 27 60 58.6 61.3 57.6 642 16/33 26-2fl-6h-3s-1pd 415 B-176 OVT 6'4 291 Hobby 2018
    Payne-Commanders 26 58.4 43.5 72 54.9 907 17/75 64-18fl-20h-11.5s-1fr-5pd 530 B- 272 OVT 6'3 320 Franchised
    Ford-Seahawks 28 56.6 52.9 60.1 56.6 676 16/64 35-6fl-7h-3s-2pd 355 B-243 O 5'11 310  
5   Williams-Broncos 31 55.4 51.6 57.9 69 598 15/34 37-4fl-8h-4.5s-3pd 334 B-228 OVT 6'1 291  
    Buggs-Lions 27 53.9 47 66.8 60.2 752 13/20 46-10h-1s-1ff-2pd 681 B 6'3 295  
Depth    
    Wormley-Stealers 30 74.3 78.2 59.1   338 1/31 29-3fl-1h-.5s-1fr-1ff 183 B-108 OVT 6'5 300  
    Shepherd-Jets 30 68.9 58.6 79.5 60 416 3/12 33-4fl-6h-1.5s 323 B 6'4 315  
  3 Gotsis-Jaguars 31 65 57.7 69.9 57 315 1/47 19-3fl-9h-1.5s-1fr-2pd 202 B 6'4 287  
  3 Peters-Jaguars 35 63.1 61.8 61 63.5 307 3/135 20-5fl-2h 139 B-125A 6'3 295 Bettcher 2017
  1 Hicks-Bucs 34 61.8 65.6 59.9 58.5 442 11/121 22-2fl-4h-1s-3pd 274 B 6'5 324  
    Saunders-Chiefs 27 60.7 59.6 56.6 62.3 472 0/6 48-3fl-8h-3.5s-1pd 384 B 6'0 324  
6   Gaines-Rams 27 59.1 57.5 59.3 59 731 12/25 36-6fl-6h-4s B 371-A 332 6'1 312  
    Ridgeway-49ers 28 58.8 54.5 62 63.6 285 7/19 28-3fl-4h-1s 244 B 6'3 305  
    Bullard-Vikings 30 57.3 63.6 50.9 62.7 333 7/22 23-5tfl-1h B-187 6'3 290  
    Watkins-Cowboys 29 57 54 61.9 66.7 303 4/36 26-2fl-1ff 231 B 6'3 297 Hobby-Clemson 2015
    Brockers-Lions 32 51.3 50.4 55.2   123 5/157 3-1h-1pd 83 B 6'5 297 CC
    Phillips-Bills 31 50 53.5 57.7 58.7 365 1/53 20-3tfl-1.5s-2pd 214 B 6'6 330 Anarumo 2017
    Thomas-Jets 27 49.9 47.8 55.4 61.8 374 0/30 26-2fl-4h-.5s 284 B 6'2 256  
10 2 Street-Saints 26 49.2 42.3 59.8 61.2 518 0/4 29-5fl-8h-3.5s-1pd 372 B 104 O 6'2 287  
    Hankins-Cowboys 31 46.5 49.7 50.8 62.4 290 4/120 10-1h-1pd 186 B 6'3 340  
1   Pennel-Bears 32 45.8 35.3 58.7 68.1 363 2/18 26-2fl-2pd-1ff-fr 296 B 6'4 332  
    Nnadi-Chiefs 27 40.5 39.7 50.4 56 424 17/69 25-1fl 346 B 6'1 317  
    Alualu-Stealers 36 30.4 29.1 58.5 60 291 2/113 13-2h-.5s-1pd 178 B 6'3 304  
OVT    
    Allen-Cardinals 26 72.7 67.4 71.6 62.7 660 13/35 47-10fl-19h-5.5s-8pd 287 OVT-210 B-111 O 6'4 281  
    Rankins-Jets 29 73.1 67.5 66.1 64.7 558 15/51 43-4fl-7h-3s-1ff 274 OVT-241 B 6'2 305  
6   Robinson-Rams 28 64.4 68.7 52.3 60.8 360 10/61 42-2fl-3h 195 OVT-92 B 6'4 330  
    Cox-Eagles 32 60.2 53.5 63.3   808 17/167 43-7fl-14h-7s-1ff 339 OVT-332 B 6'4 310  
Depth    
    Suh-Eagles 36 63.6 67.1 55.5   224 0/191 10-2fl-1s 106 OVT 6'4 313  
No idea    
    Hurst-49ers 28 71 75.2 52.3   41 0/17 2-1fl     2021stats

 

Options

  1. Dalvin Tomlinson-10 hurries, 2.5s, played for Bettcher in 2019 (2 years 21 million)
  2. Matt Ioannids-At 29 he is still decently young. 9 hurries 1 sack last year. On a bad Panthers team. (1 year 9.5 in 2023)
  3. David Onyemata-On a Saints team that is in cap hell. 11 hurries and 5 sacks. (3 years 26M)
  4. Jarran Reed-30 years old-52 tackles, 14 hurries-2,5 sacks (1 yr, 3.25M)
  5. Larry Ogunjobi-11 hurries and 1.5 sacks (1 year 8 million)
  6. Tavon Bryan-27. 6 hurries and 3 sacks, coached by Hobby in Jax. (1 year 4M)
  7. Isiah Buggs-27. 10 hurries, 1 sack (1 year 965K)
  8. Adam Gotsis-9 hurries and 1.5 sacks in 2022. (1year 1.035M)
  9. Kentavious Street-Just 26, 8 hurries, 3.5sacks (1year 1.265M)
  10. Sheldon Rankins-7 hurries, 3 sacks (2years 11M)
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Well done. I think with how much each of the four DL starters are making, they can't afford to spend all that much on another DT.

 

Feels like a spot where they could wait a week or so for the big money contracts to get signed and then see who is left. A one-year prove it type deal for a DT with some pass rush upside who did not get the contract he wanted would make a lot of sense. If not, then a mid-round pick in the draft. 

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8 minutes ago, happyrid said:

Well done. I think with how much each of the four DL starters are making, they can't afford to spend all that much on another DT.

 

Feels like a spot where they could wait a week or so for the big money contracts to get signed and then see who is left. A one-year prove it type deal for a DT with some pass rush upside who did not get the contract he wanted would make a lot of sense. If not, then a mid-round pick in the draft. 

 

1-3 and 5 make too much for sure. I think Tomlinson and Onyematta keep making it but the rest probably fall in the 1-4 million range. I think we can afford that. 

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Unless a Geno Atkins type is sitting there for them I don't think they move on 3-tch. I thinkit's much more likely they try to find a backup NT that can grow into a starter once Reader is gone. I think with Carter coming on at the end they are going to roll with him as BJ's backup

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12 minutes ago, MichaelWeston said:

If you get another 3T then Reader plays less on passing downs, Ossai plays more edge. I think a pass rusher in the middle will be the goal. 

 

 

This is the exact thing they are looking at Carter to do, so unless they find a Geno Atkins, I don't see this happening.

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12 minutes ago, MichaelWeston said:

I think you grab one of those veterans I listed for a year to give Carter some more time. 

 

That stunts growth. Carter isn't starting he is the backup unless Hill gets hurt. He's going into his 2nd year, it's time to give him more work as the backup.

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