cnbengal Posted May 31 Report Posted May 31 All will be overturned in a higher unbiased court 1 Quote
MichaelWeston Posted May 31 Report Posted May 31 40 minutes ago, cnbengal said: All will be overturned in a higher unbiased court The jury was biased? Quote
MichaelWeston Posted May 31 Report Posted May 31 5 hours ago, Jamie_B said: The New York trial. Guilty on all 34 accounts So obviously guilty. His cult was like....If you convict him of the crimes he obviously committed we will then vote him in.....as if we weren't going to before. We live in a sad country where people follow news that's incorrect but sells and supports their predetermined biases. 1 Quote
T-Dub Posted May 31 Report Posted May 31 1 hour ago, MichaelWeston said: The jury was biased? They found him guilty, obviously the entire legal system is corrupt and NOT Donald J. Trump. Everyone but him. The guy making vague threats of bloodshed and civil war while doxxing judges & jury members is perfectly innocent. Wake up, sheeple! Any true patriot can see this. 1 Quote
cnbengal Posted May 31 Report Posted May 31 1 hour ago, MichaelWeston said: The jury was biased? Yes. Hell juror number one prior to the case had posted celebration of Trump's 2020 loss and posted all the way up to the trial that she would do anything to keep Trump or if the White House. As far as the overturn, even most of the legal experts on CNN and MSNBC and thorough out the country said it won't survive appeal. The only hope they have is that doesn't happen until after the election. 1 Quote
Jamie_B Posted May 31 Author Report Posted May 31 This isn't the case I think is the most serious. That's the GA election interference, and the Classified documents cases. Then there is the Jan 6 trial. As far as guilt, does anyone doubt he paid Stormy Daniels at this point? So wouldn't it stand to reason that he falsified documents about it? 1 1 Quote
T-Dub Posted May 31 Report Posted May 31 1 hour ago, Jamie_B said: This isn't the case I think is the most serious. That's the GA election interference, and the Classified documents cases. Then there is the Jan 6 trial. As far as guilt, does anyone doubt he paid Stormy Daniels at this point? So wouldn't it stand to reason that he falsified documents about it? None of these will matter if his marks reelect him. 1 Quote
Jamie_B Posted May 31 Author Report Posted May 31 33 minutes ago, T-Dub said: None of these will matter if his marks reelect him. It's wild to me that a President can pardon himself 1 Quote
T-Dub Posted May 31 Report Posted May 31 45 minutes ago, Jamie_B said: It's wild to me that a President can pardon himself Can only guess the Founding Fathers imagined they'd be tarred and feathered before it came to that. They weren't Real Patriots like Trump. Quote
cnbengal Posted May 31 Report Posted May 31 No, I'm sure they new the legal system could get political like most banana republics. If you can't win, throw your opponent in jail, Putin would be proud. 1 Quote
T-Dub Posted May 31 Report Posted May 31 22 minutes ago, cnbengal said: No, I'm sure they new the legal system could get political like most banana republics. If you can't win, throw your opponent in jail, Or just storm the Capitol and start hanging people. Did you mean "Lock Her Up!" Hillary? Trump lost. Quote Putin would be proud. Yes the Republican Party was a great investment. Whatever damage they do now is just a bonus. Imagine if they cut the funding to Ukraine again as well. USSR part 2! Money well spent, thanks NRA! 1 Quote
cnbengal Posted May 31 Report Posted May 31 Putin and Jinping have their puppet and it ain't Trump 1 Quote
T-Dub Posted May 31 Report Posted May 31 4 minutes ago, cnbengal said: Putin and Jinping have their puppet and it ain't Trump Amazing that anyone can still argue Trump's not firmly in Vlad's pocket. I guess he plans to end aid to Ukraine because, what, he just hates corruption so much you guys.. Delusional. Just in y'alls own happy lil Qcumber Flat Earth fantasyland with no forwarding address, there's no reaching you. Waste of time & space tbh. 1 1 Quote
Jamie_B Posted May 31 Author Report Posted May 31 54 minutes ago, cnbengal said: No, I'm sure they new the legal system could get political like most banana republics. If you can't win, throw your opponent in jail, Putin would be proud. Do you belive Trump paid Daniels? 1 Quote
MichaelWeston Posted June 1 Report Posted June 1 22 hours ago, cnbengal said: Yes. Hell juror number one prior to the case had posted celebration of Trump's 2020 loss and posted all the way up to the trial that she would do anything to keep Trump or if the White House. As far as the overturn, even most of the legal experts on CNN and MSNBC and thorough out the country said it won't survive appeal. The only hope they have is that doesn't happen until after the election. Can you provide a link to this information? 1 Quote
cnbengal Posted June 1 Report Posted June 1 On 5/31/2024 at 12:31 PM, Jamie_B said: Do you belive Trump paid Daniels? Yes, the same as Clinton did. He paid a fine, and it was still in the statute of limitations. Exact same scenario, an exact same style case. And yes, before you talk about it being in a political campaign violation, Barack Obama violated the same law but also paid a fine. 1 Quote
cnbengal Posted June 1 Report Posted June 1 14 hours ago, MichaelWeston said: Can you provide a link to this information? CNN I believe. It was on several news feeds also, talking about the jury makeup. 1 Quote
Jamie_B Posted June 1 Author Report Posted June 1 16 minutes ago, cnbengal said: Yes, the same as Clinton did. He paid a fine, and it was still in the statute of limitations. Exact same scenario, an exact same style case. And yes, before you talk about it being in a political campaign violation, Barack Obama violated the same law but also paid a fine. So it stands to reason that he is guilty of falsifying the documents. Seems pretty open and shut? This wasn't about a campaign violation it was about trying to keep a story quiet that might influence the election. The Obama comparison seems pretty flimsy, he wasn't doing anything like that from what I am reading here. https://www.politico.com/story/2013/01/obama-2008-campaign-fined-375000-085784 I also don't think he will get jail time for this and will pay a fine too. Personally, I don't care if he slept with Daniels. This is the least of the cases I care about. It's likely just a set-up case for when he has to face the other cases and won't be considered a first-time criminal at that point. The other cases, specifically the GA election interference and the classified documents case are far more serious to me. Jan 6 too. I think the one that is going to be the hardest to say he isn't guilty of and deserves the same treatment as anyone else who took classified documents and refused to give them back when they were asked, going as far as lying that he had them. 2 Quote
Jamie_B Posted June 1 Author Report Posted June 1 10 minutes ago, cnbengal said: CNN I believe. It was on several news feeds also, talking about the jury makeup. I've been looking for this, specifically, the "juror one" thing you mentioned where you said "she would do anything to keep Trump out of the White House." I've seen where one of the jurors said she disagreed with him politically about a lot, but would be able to keep that disagreement from interfering with the facts in the case, but nothing about "doing anything to keep Trump out of the White House." Quote
Homer_Rice Posted June 1 Report Posted June 1 It's entirely possible that Trump's legal issues are a twofer: he may have broken the law and he may be under political attack via lawfare. Quote
Jamie_B Posted June 1 Author Report Posted June 1 21 minutes ago, Homer_Rice said: They never care about their hypocrisy, its always something for one side that disqualifies them, but when they do it it gets ignored. Its about a craven desire for power Quote
Jamie_B Posted June 1 Author Report Posted June 1 21 minutes ago, Homer_Rice said: It's entirely possible that Trump's legal issues are a twofer: he may have broken the law and he may be under political attack via lawfare. Yeah the DOJ wouldn't take this case, it was brought by the state, so yes on both accounts on this case specifically. The Jan 6 they are going to have to have some harder proof than things he said or didn't say, like some actual ties to some of those insurrectionists. Not sure if they have that kind of stuff or not. Personally I think Roger Stone has them but I'm not sure he hasn't just acted on his own so as to allow Trump plausible deniability, but that's just me guessing. The fake electors scheme sounds like it might be a bit more serious for him. The classified documents case, I mean we've all seen the pictures. Quote
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